People only talk about training day because of a performance. Not because of the whole. People on this board also talk about Scarface like it’s one of the greatest movies of all time so I wouldn’t put much stock in it
Training day Vs collateral
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People only talk about training day because of a performance. Not because of the whole. People on this board also talk about Scarface like it’s one of the greatest movies of all time so I wouldn’t put much stock in it
This track is why I put Collateral over TD 
This thread made me rewatch Collateral on HBO Now 
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Training day. Just from how trash Collateral was shot.
That cinematography is trizzaaash
That cinematography is trizzaaash
Collateral, Mann is better than Fuqua to me, but Training Day holds it's own against almost anything. Training Day's flaws are probably more glaring and frequent than Collateral's, and the latter goes further into depths that Training Day never really approaches. The nature of crime, the existential themes of ambition and personal failures, the vast space between us as we live our lives adjacent to each other, but never really connecting. Plus, Collateral is a beautiful movie, in terms of look, and Training Day only does the gritty parts, there are no shots in Training Day like the coyote scene in Collateral, or just the jazz/soundtrack scenes riding around LA, in the opening scenes.
Training Day has great supporting players, but a few serious misses (Dr Dre), and Collateral's has much more depth and diversity, even personifying the meet cute, between Jada Pinkett and Foxx, that captures chemistry, attraction, the thrill of connecting with someone, all while these gorgeous shots of LA are just floating across the screen. Or the haunting, briefly funny, scene in the jazz club, as a doomed man contemplates his life, regrets, and choices. The backed in a corner Sinaloa rep, menacing, funny, charming, and the overbearing Mom in the hospital.
Not to mention career high performances from Cruise and Foxx, who had never done anything like this again. Their ending conversations on philosophy and potential are mesmerizing.
"Someday, someday my dream will come?" One night you'll wake up and you'll discover it never happened. It's all turned around on you, and it never will. Suddenly you are old. It didn't happen, and it never will because you were never going to do it anyway. You'll push it into memory, then zone out in your barcalounger, being hypnotized by daytime TV for the rest of your life. Don't you talk to me about murder. All it ever took was a down payment on a Lincoln Town Car, and that girl... you can't even call that girl. What the fukk are you still doing driving a cab?
"i'll have to tell the people from Culiacan and Cartagena that story"
That last track that plays, another poster mentioned, as they get off the metro Man, this movie was so powerful to me, when I saw it the first time, but I have seen it probably 10 times since. I left that theater in a daze.
I would say Mann now is still head and shoulders above Fuqua who is wallowing in D list action movies. Brooklyns Finest was the last real movie he made. Disclaimer, Mann is my favorite director, and Collateral in my top 5-10 all time.
Training Day has great supporting players, but a few serious misses (Dr Dre), and Collateral's has much more depth and diversity, even personifying the meet cute, between Jada Pinkett and Foxx, that captures chemistry, attraction, the thrill of connecting with someone, all while these gorgeous shots of LA are just floating across the screen. Or the haunting, briefly funny, scene in the jazz club, as a doomed man contemplates his life, regrets, and choices. The backed in a corner Sinaloa rep, menacing, funny, charming, and the overbearing Mom in the hospital.
Not to mention career high performances from Cruise and Foxx, who had never done anything like this again. Their ending conversations on philosophy and potential are mesmerizing.
"Someday, someday my dream will come?" One night you'll wake up and you'll discover it never happened. It's all turned around on you, and it never will. Suddenly you are old. It didn't happen, and it never will because you were never going to do it anyway. You'll push it into memory, then zone out in your barcalounger, being hypnotized by daytime TV for the rest of your life. Don't you talk to me about murder. All it ever took was a down payment on a Lincoln Town Car, and that girl... you can't even call that girl. What the fukk are you still doing driving a cab?
"i'll have to tell the people from Culiacan and Cartagena that story"
That last track that plays, another poster mentioned, as they get off the metro Man, this movie was so powerful to me, when I saw it the first time, but I have seen it probably 10 times since. I left that theater in a daze.
I would say Mann now is still head and shoulders above Fuqua who is wallowing in D list action movies. Brooklyns Finest was the last real movie he made. Disclaimer, Mann is my favorite director, and Collateral in my top 5-10 all time.
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No problem brehThis thread made me rewatch Collateral on HBO Now
Collateral, but I never liked Training Day like that. I was more of a fan of In Too Deep.
HipHopStan
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I was coming in here to say Training Day, but you made me really start to second guess my answer.
Collateral is just dope man. Like I said, training day is mostly all Denzel holding that shyt together through sheer will and talent. Collateral has so much different shyt going for itI was coming in here to say Training Day, but you made me really start to second guess my answer.
OmegaK2099
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That club scene in Collateral 
Remember when they put in kane and lynch?
Remember when they put in kane and lynch?
HipHopStan
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I love the cinematography in Collateral. It makes the whole city of LA feel like an actual character in the movie.