tough times in 2013 due to tax hikes and rising prices.

[Meta Reign]

I hope everyone suffers insurmountable amounts of pain due to these draconian measures.

While I'm sure that you feel that you're portraying sarcasm here, the way you post in general leads me to believe that these are your TRUE feelings towards humanity.

You consistently post like a psychopath. No lie.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

Are we just destined to have vast income equality, poor upward mobility, an overburdened welfare state, and a middle class that's mostly struggling to keep their heads above water?

yes we are but so are all developed countries

the interesting thing to consider now is the question of austerity ie as developed countries start to age considerably more and have less births as this creates a totally new environment politically and culturally

for example i predict people will probably cut a lot of welfare programs for families and only maintain ones for the elderly

this would be a huge blow to poor hispanics and blacks and create a very big divide in society bigger than any that exists even today

ie ethnic based mega slums and enclaves of wealth

 

[Outlaw]

yes we are but so are all developed countries

the interesting thing to consider now is the question of austerity ie as developed countries start to age considerably more and have less births as this creates a totally new environment politically and culturally

for example i predict people will probably cut a lot of welfare programs for families and only maintain ones for the elderly

this would be a huge blow to poor hispanics and blacks and create a very big divide in society bigger than any that exists even today

ie ethnic based mega slums and enclaves of wealth

This nikka is high as fukk

 

[Brown_Pride]

*Waits for @LeyeT*

I agree that those low-skilled manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. There's no economic incentive for companies to bring a lot of those jobs back. And we still have high manufacturing output. We're just making microchips instead of toilets and doing it with less manpower and cost.

But how do we have a viable middle class through just low-paying service jobs and ones that require skills and education? The education system is People of lower income at an obvious disadvantage. Everyone isn't smart or capable enough to get a STEM degree. Are we just destined to have vast income equality, poor upward mobility, an overburdened welfare state, and a middle class that's mostly struggling to keep their heads above water?

Yes. It's a sign of the end of the USA broham.
NO joke. I'm not one of "those guys" either but let's keep it 100.

Education isn't gonna get fixed because there's no money in it and the investment return is so far out in the future that these myopic sons of biotches would rather have dough now and burden future generations.

Those in power, I mean real power, are making moves to fatten their coffers and then jump ship. THis current model is not sustainable beyond another 100 years...if that. In YOUR KIDS time the USA will turn to shyt.



Our situation is only going to get worse

 

[Brown_Pride]

yes we are but so are all developed countries

the interesting thing to consider now is the question of austerity ie as developed countries start to age considerably more and have less births as this creates a totally new environment politically and culturally

for example i predict people will probably cut a lot of welfare programs for families and only maintain ones for the elderly

this would be a huge blow to poor hispanics and blacks and create a very big divide in society bigger than any that exists even today

ie ethnic based mega slums and enclaves of wealth

how long can that last though, consider the military is already moving towards a heavy minority population. At some point people will wild out, history has shown us that.

 

[Outlaw]

Yes. It's a sign of the end of the USA broham.
NO joke. I'm not one of "those guys" either but let's keep it 100.

Education isn't gonna get fixed because there's no money in it and the investment return is so far out in the future that these myopic sons of biotches would rather have dough now and burden future generations.

Those in power, I mean real power, are making moves to fatten their coffers and then jump ship. THis current model is not sustainable beyond another 100 years...if that. In YOUR KIDS time the USA will turn to shyt.



Our situation is only going to get worse

Do you have any facts to back this up or is this just wild speculation

 

[Brown_Pride]

Even if someone becomes a medical assistant or learns some other technical trade, that requires some schooling. No Rick Santorum, but I think asking everyone to pursue higher education, with the cost of tuition, is a pretty tall order. Student loan debt is already bloated. A lot of people are just scraping to get by.

This will be the next big bubble and or the cause of the afore mentioned revolution. When you burden someone with 100's in debt that they can never shake, couple that with no jobs BUT a relatively higher level of education and an ability to think you get people who can organize...people who are Pissed and can organize.

This whole "let them eat cake" trip we've been on the last 50 years will come to and end eventually.

Like i said this current model is simply not sustainable.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Do you have any facts to back this up or is this just wild speculation

...ah it's literal man again. Of course it's speculation as i have yet to be able to travel into the future. The proof is that educational debt is spiraling out of control, there are no foreseeable ends to the educational and poverty gaps...that shyt's not going to just go away. If the attitude America has had towards the major problems plaguing the country continue at some point we'll have jumped the shark and the only way to get back will be to hit reset.

Tell me where you see this country in 10 years, 50 years...100 years? How do you see the wealth pooling into the hands of 1-2% of the pop while the rest remain in abject poverty and there NOT being a revolution.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

if you extrapolate minority fertility rate the hispanic population will start to dramatically overtake the entire country at some point in this century however there is the issue that there will also be a sort of decaying, and increasingly aging, white society at the core of this. i predict some sort of reaction to this in the form of cutting away at social support systems that are used by poor minorities. there is a blow back effect here: minority communities degrade to the point total breakdown (much more than it is today) and either silently fade out or degrade into zones of pure terror controlled by large scale crime organizations. under such conditions things like small scale armies and the potential for terrorist activities are created.

its really a ticking time bomb

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

Tell me where you see this country in 10 years, 50 years...100 years?

dont waste your breath with him

 

[Brown_Pride]

if you extrapolate minority fertility rate the hispanic population will start to dramatically overtake the entire country at some point in this century however there is the issue that there will also be a sort of decaying, and increasingly aging, white society at the core of this. i predict some sort of reaction to this in the form of cutting away at social support systems that are used by poor minorities. there is blow back effect here: minority communities degrade to the point total breakdown (much more than it is today) and either silently fade out or degrade into zones of pure terror controlled by large scale crime organizations. under such conditions things like small scale armies and the potential for terrorist activities are created.

its really a ticking time bomb

more or less.

You really can only subject a mass amount of people to shyt for so long before your chickens come home to roost.

 

[Outlaw]

...ah it's literal man again. Of course it's speculation as i have yet to be able to travel into the future. The proof is that educational debt is spiraling out of control, there are no foreseeable ends to the educational and poverty gaps...that shyt's not going to just go away. If the attitude America has had towards the major problems plaguing the country continue at some point we'll have jumped the shark and the only way to get back will be to hit reset.

Tell me where you see this country in 10 years, 50 years...100 years? How do you see the wealth pooling into the hands of 1-2% of the pop while the rest remain in abject poverty and there NOT being a revolution.

The problem with your speculation is that you are projecting the current economic model onto America without keeping in mind that there could be unknown variables that come into play that will change and improve the economy. such as the Internet in the 90's, there could be something as big in the future that we are unaware of that will make the economy boom, it is inevitable as much as technology changes. World Powers with vastly inferior governing systems stayed on top for hundreds of years, America reign ontop didn't start til the end of WW2, I don't see America falling off as the worlds top dog until the world unites as one government. This doom and gloom is just viewing the world in pessimistic glasses.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

do you know anything about sub replacement fertility rate and pension crisis

 

[Outlaw]

do you know anything about sub replacement fertility rate and pension crisis

Whats your point? you think that generations are becoming less and less capable of replacing the former? lol

 

[Brown_Pride]

The problem with your speculation is that you are projecting the current economic model onto America without keeping in mind that there could be unknown variables that come into play that will change and improve the economy. such as the Internet in the 90's, there could be something as big in the future that we are unaware of that will make the economy boom, it is inevitable as much as technology changes. World Powers with vastly inferior governing systems stayed on top for hundreds of years, America reign ontop didn't start til the end of WW2, I don't see America falling off as the worlds top dog until the world unites as one government. This doom and gloom is just viewing the world in pessimistic glasses.

The education system has been on a steady decline for quite some time, this persisted through the "next big thing" that was the dot com boom.

Wealth gap has continually widened, again inspite of "the next big thing".

It's the overall system that is flawed. You can turn your freefall into a glide from time to time but you're still moving downward. The next big thing will only help for a time, the underlining problems are still there and are being reinforced.

Education
An ingrained corruption in politics
Corporatism

Those three things will be the ultimate end to the USA, i'd venture those three things are ALWAYS the end to "empires". History repeats itself when people don't learn it, and as we have already established our education system is , so no one is learning it...looks like we're destined to repeat.