Tokyo Vice - Season 2 (HBO MAX/2.8.24)

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Everybody pays. :ehh:
I thought they were saying Samantha had to pay if she opened the club and I was under the assumption Samantha breaks off the bar owner and he breaks of the yakuza. So why does she owe them money? She gets taxed for her work at the bar directly and she hasn’t been paying?
 
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Mediocre and meandering so far. Feels like a CW/HBO crossover.

Show is 80% aesthetics, if it was set in Scotland instead of Japan it wouldn't get these favorable reviews.

I know the show is set in 1999/2001, but they're also writing like it's 1999 as well. Has all the hallmarks of a white protagonist moving to a black school/neighborhood. The 'dunks vs bapes' convo was less organic than Paul Walker trying to ingratiate himself to Vin Diesel by talking about cars in the first F&F (also 2001 I think :heh:).

Show is filled with over the top, hamfisted combo of tropes from early 2000s and 2020s. The worst of both worlds.
:skip: Wasn't no bape shoes out in 99.


This isnt the most egregious part

The story is set in 1999 and theres a scene in a strip club in the first episode where they play Lil Wayne/Kelly Rowland Motivation which came out in 2011 :dead:
 

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I thought they were saying Samantha had to pay if she opened the club and I was under the assumption Samantha breaks off the bar owner and he breaks of the yakuza. So why does she owe them money? She gets taxed for her work at the bar directly and she hasn’t been paying?

She's an established revenue stream. You think she walks away from that without paying any kind of exit fee?
 

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She's an established revenue stream. You think she walks away from that without paying any kind of exit fee?
I was under the assumption her new bar would still break off the yakuza regularly. So she would be creating a whole new revenue stream for them .
 
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This isnt the most egregious part

The story is set in 1999 and theres a scene in a strip club in the first episode where they play Lil Wayne/Kelly Rowland Motivation which came out in 2011 :dead:
Thats just nitpicking a lot of shows/movies do that. The Great Gatsby had a full jayz soundtrack, Peaky Blinders theme song is from a modern band , Rick Ross song in Django. If the song fits the energy of a scene it doesn’t matter when it came out.
 

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Those aren't great examples since they're purposely being anachronistic with music choices (peaky especially) but I get what you're saying, it is a bit nit picky and I'm sure most won't catch it.
 

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This isnt the most egregious part

The story is set in 1999 and theres a scene in a strip club in the first episode where they play Lil Wayne/Kelly Rowland Motivation which came out in 2011 :dead:

man, I thought about that too, I was like a sexual strip club Kelly Rowland solo song? What year is this from? It should have been some iconic 1999 song, I don't know why they did that. There are plenty of 1999 songs to license on a decent budget. And, I did think BAPES were like 2005, but that's only because of Clipse. I know little about that type of fashion.

It wasn't iconoclastic. It was just an oversight, or intentional. It was an entirely unremarkable Kelly Rowland song from not even NOW, but 10 years ago.

Love the show, but Mann is my favorite director, it's not flawless, but the atmosphere, just the way Tokyo is portrayed is masterful. Even as it riffs on cliches in the Asian community that were probably exhausted around the time I saw The Corrupter (in 1998 when i was 12) with Mark Walhberg and Chow Yon (Fat, the idealistic white American gets shown the way of the world by hardened Asian teacher. Idealistic American pushes Asian through his beliefs that the system can be changed.
 
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