Tokyo Vice - Season 2 (HBO MAX/2.8.24)

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This just like Shogun got some really unlikeable white protagonists leading the shows. With that being said, you can't even really put Jake's a$$hole-ishness in proper context cause this show hasn't given any of the gangsters actually teeth. In shows like the Sopranos, Wire, BB...even when you had shytty civilian characters, you understood there was a level worse with all the psychopathic criminals lurking around.
 
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it's nonsensical and only make sense as plot developments to generate conflict. The Hayama character is almost a caricature. It's dumbed way down from the first 5 episodes of season1. Probably HBO marching orders from Zsaalav's team. All these shows start to resemble marvel movies. it's not by accident.

the idea that they take some school kid geek and use him as a crash dummy shooter makes no sense either, when his value as the show itself went out of it's way to explain was in his "computer skills" for white collar fraud.

with better writing and the same actors, you could generate tension and conflict with Sato just having a younger brother, who looks up ot him. But, when shows go awry they dial up all the drama to a 10. Not only is he joining, he is turned against Sato! and turned into a killer! And will be tasked with killing his own brother! and he has to kill Sam! Will Sato choose his brother or his lover? it's hysterical in it's melodrama.

and while the show in it's first season mostly, ep 1-6, tried to show more grounded portrayal of the YAKUZA, that explored their traditions, this one seems to have almost entirely dropped that, not enough of an expert myself, but thats my impression.
What would be HBO's motivation to deviate from the script and as you said try amd turn it into Marvel-lite?...... I guess you kinda spell it out when you say Marvel. But the show got popular based off of how it started..
 
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On another note. If you have been likimg the series. Jake Adelstein did a podcast series that is in the vein of Tokyo Vice.... I liked it. Easy listening when you have to be out driving doimg errands.


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Great episode. That scene from season 1 episode 1 makes sense now. This liver transplant thing seem to be way more complex with some us embassy lady somehow involved as well
 

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Last week this show had me so pissed. This week they had me glued to the TV. Really strong bounce back episode. The bath house scene is what I had been waiting for all along. This episode grounded some things and blew some other things wide the fukk open.
 
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:deadrose: @ the whole gang joining in on the drowning.
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This series isn't going to end with the proverbial "happy ending"................Tozawa is going to win. If this is supposed to align with how the Yakuza "legitimized" themselves then this is fitting. ....although it might be hyperbole with Tozawa having the prime minister on the payroll, but the overarching idea is right.
 
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This series isn't going to end with the proverbial "happy ending"................Tozawa is going to win. If this is supposed to align with how the Yakuza "legitimized" themselves then this is fitting. ....although it might be hyperbole with Tozawa having the prime minister on the payroll, but the overarching idea is right.
I think his wife will lead to his downfall, if she doesn’t outright kill him herself.
 
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