Today marks 75 years exactly, since the greatest black leader Marcus Garvey died.

[KOohbt]

My mom's telling me my grandpa fukked with the Garvey movement when he was a young cat. The mans influence was beyond real and outright epic and transcends time. One of the greatest men to ever exist. Garvey > Jesus

 

[KOohbt]

there has been only one great black leader in US history that is John Horse who actually fought real battles with his enemies not give speeches

Reported

 

[Poitier]

Garvey had good intentions but Dubois had better ideology. And despite what The Coli says, MLK is the GOAT.

 

[KOohbt]

Garvey had good intentions but Dubois had better ideology. And despite what The Coli says, MLK is the GOAT.

No.

 

[Poitier]

No.

Yes. And it isn't even close.

 

[KOohbt]

Yes. And it isn't even close.

The boycotts alone make him a top guy but, integration was not the move.

 

[Poitier]

The boycotts alone make him a top guy but, integration was not the move.

Integration wasn't the issue since we never truly integrated, the lack of reparations are hence MLK's Poor People's Campaign.

 

[KOohbt]

Integration wasn't the issue since we never truly integrated, the lack of reparations are hence MLK's Poor People's Campaign.

The lack of integration is the problem. These cacs weren't gonna let that shyt fly. I see what your saying though. But we are a group that replaced Europe's underclass in this American model. Reparations aren't possible unless we control the govt. What we needed/need to do is get it from the mud. That sacrifice is worth it to me. The only thing anyone should have been preaching is boycotts, and production. Coupled with an emphasis on protecting our assets by any means necessary. But idk everything I'm saying is hindsight so


Nothing has changed since any of these men except we have access to the great info they brought us.

 

[Danie84]

'People without the knowledge of their Past History, Origin, and Culture is like a tree without

Roots.' His relevant perspective just show how monumental and transcending his BLACKEXCELLENCE was

...if only WE had more True Black Leaders to carry on the torch

@bdizzle, you see how CrossDressing CaC Hoover is forever exempt for his role in eradicating ALL of our Liberating Movements, but the KKK goes on without a hitch

 

[Poitier]

Reparations aren't possible unless we control the govt.

I think they would have happened had MLK lived.

DuBois and MLK were 2 of the well known Black leaders who figured "it" out. MLK beats Dubois because he was better at organizing people.

 

[Rell84shots]

This country loves to keep us in the victim role don't they? They tell us to do for ourselves and when we do they shut down whatever plan we have that enables us to do just that.

 

[KOohbt]

I think they would have happened had MLK lived.

DuBois and MLK were 2 of the well known Black leaders who figured "it" out. MLK beats Dubois because he was better at organizing people.

I can't even imagine a scenario where MLK doesn't get assassinated.

But if he didn't I could see him moving people in the right positions to take control of the govt enough to move the needle. shyt it ain't even hard to take over local govts. Black folks just don't understand their power and how to properly use govt. shyt around here it's the government. We don't even fathom controlling it. Like we're not even allowed to. So every black politician is some cornball uncle Tom that nikkas never seen out here anywhere.

 

[Houston911]

The FBI was directly responsible for the demise of the UNIA

American Experience | Marcus Garvey | People & Events

John Edgar Hoover, director of the Bureau of Investigation (renamed the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 1935) from 1924 to 1977, was born on January 1, 1895, in Washington, D.C. to Annie Marie Scheitlin Hoover and dikkerson Naylor Hoover. In his capacity as head of America's federal investigative department, he was instrumental in overseeing the investigation and prosecution of suspected criminal activity in the United States for more than five decades.

He began by working as a messenger in the Library of Congress, while he pursued a law degree at George Washington University. After Hoover graduated in 1917, Hoover's uncle, a judge, helped him obtain a job in the U. S. Justice Department. Within two years, he was selected to be U.S. Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer's special assistant.

At a time of increasing popular radicalism, Hoover quickly made his mark. He was given the responsibility of heading a new section of the Justice Department which was established to gather evidence on radical groups. According to historian Theodore Kornweibel, Hoover was chosen in part for his reputation of diligence. "He stayed up all night reading the radical pamphlets and literature," Kornweibel says, and Hoover "quickly became 'the' Justice Department expert on radicalism." As head of the new division, he was responsible for organizing the arrest and deportation of suspected Communists and radicals in the United States.

Marcus Garvey soon rose to the top of Hoover's list. Federal agents, in collaboration with the New York City police, had begun to report on Garvey's speeches as early as 1917. But as Universal Negro Improvement Association membership and the circulation of The Negro World newspaper ballooned in 1919, Hoover himself targeted Garvey. Referring to Garvey as a "notorious negro agitator," Hoover zealously set about to gather damaging evidence on Garvey and his growing movement. According to Kornweibel, "Hoover and the Justice Department were clearly hooked on a fixation on Garvey which would before long become a vendetta."

Hoover had relied on part-time black informants to track Garvey's movements and U.N.I.A. activities. But in December 1919 his determination to go after Garvey led Hoover to hire the first black agent in the Bureau's history. "By this time the Bureau had discovered that it wasn't going to learn all it needed about Garvey without someone being able to penetrate the movement," according to Kornweibel. "The white agents simply couldn't do it. They were totally conspicuous." The first black agent's name was James Wormley Jones, known as Jack Jones. He was known by the code number "800". "His job," says Kornweibel, "was to go into Harlem and to infiltrate the Garvey movement and to try and find evidence that could be used to build the legal case for ultimately getting rid of Garvey."

Over the next five years, largely under Hoover's direction, Bureau of Investigation officers would report on U.N.I.A. activities in over two dozen cities and pursuit of Garvey would broaden to seven other federal agencies. "They were going to find some way of getting rid of Garvey because they feared his influence," Kornweibel says of Hoover and his government colleagues. "They feared the hundreds of thousands, the masses of blacks under his influence. Garvey rejected America, and they could no more agree to and accept a militant rejection of America by blacks than they could accept a militant demand for full inclusion by blacks." Hoover's determination led him to take extreme measures to counter Garvey's growing influence. According to historian Winston James, "They placed spies in the U.N.I.A. They sabotaged the Black Star Line. The engines... of the ships were actually damaged by foreign matter being thrown into the fuel."

Hoover also placed his agents closer to Garvey than anyone at the time could have imagined. As he and the U.N.I.A. increasingly came under attack from internal dissenters, black critics, and the federal government, one of the few people Garvey confided in was Herbert Boulin, the owner of a Harlem-based black doll company. What Garvey didn't know is that Boulin was an informant for J. Edgar Hoover, known by the Bureau as Agent P-138. "He got closer to Garvey than anyone else working for the government and Garvey was really isolated", says Kornweibel. "Things weren't going well with [his] organization. The Black Star Line was losing money. And so, remarkably, he confesses to this informant that he'd tried suicide, that he was thinking of suicide again."

Decades later, Hoover would again use the methods he developed to counter Garvey's influence -- infiltration by agents, gathering damaging personal information -- against other black leaders such as Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and the Black Panther Party.

Everyone should read this

 

[Houston911]

'People without the knowledge of their Past History, Origin, and Culture is like a tree without

Roots.' His relevant perspective just show how monumental and transcending his BLACKEXCELLENCE was

...if only WE had more True Black Leaders to carry on the torch

@bdizzle, you see how CrossDressing CaC Hoover is forever exempt for his role in eradicating ALL of our Liberating Movements, but the KKK goes on without a hitch

Thats because america wants the kkk

 

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there has been only one great black leader in US history that is John Horse who actually fought real battles with his enemies not give speeches

If you actually think all Garvey did was give speeches you're misinformed. The UNIA was such a threat that having the Negro World in your possession would land you 5 years in prison. Garvey was such a threat, him and anyone associated with him were banned from entering multiple countries in the Caribbean, South America, Europe, and Africa.