Today I feel the Lord answered my prayers

[Type Username Here]

That's because people are assuming faith from the beginning and then trying to justify it with logic in retrospect... it's impossible. I would respect it if people just said it was faith and left it at that, instead of coming up with illogical attempts at rationalization, or patronizing comments about God's mysteriousness.

Spot on.

This was from Reddit a couple of days ago, and the poster summed up how Rabbis reacted to the Holocaust and the subject of God answering prayers:

...in the Holocaust, little kids were burned alive. Thousands upon thousands of them. In the face of tragedy, people will often feel the need to "defend God" - so in this conversation, as they were trying to figure out how their faith was supposed to absorb a trauma and an evil as great as the Holocaust, he meant:

Anything we say here must still make sense in the light of the fact that children were burned to death. Anything we say here, about God or about the war or about anything else, we have to be able to say to those burning children.
Could you say to a pile of burning children, "God willed this,"? Could you say to a pile of burning children, "Your suffering makes you closer to God,"? Could you say to a pile of burning children, "The Lord is only testing you,"?

No. Of course not. The idea that God would will those children to burn, or any other equally theologically vapid statement, is an insult to those children and their suffering.

Yet we are supposed to believe that God would will someone to get a job.

Doesn't make an ounce of fukking sense.

 

[Type Username Here]

That's exactly what it is. You're like one of those scorned women who feel like men have been treating them unfairly, so they go out of their way to shyt on men all day. Your responses had nothing to do with the op, but they were about your own feelings about religion in America. You used his story, to rally against your preconceived notion about who religious people are.

I agree. But that's not what you said at first. You came in with the condescending comments, and basically laughed at the op for his views.

Okay, thank you once again for proving my point.

It's condescending when people challenge the assertions and beliefs of people if those people happen to be religious, but they have free reign to impose on others.

You made your views perfectly clear Meach.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Spot on.

This was from Reddit a couple of days ago, and the poster summed up how Rabbis reacted to the Holocaust and the subject of God answering prayers:

This makes perfect logical sense to a person without faith.

Religious people on the other hand feel like their time here is just a very small blip in their overall existence. They feel whatever happens on earth was done purposely by god to prepare them for their eternity with him.

 

[DStyles]

Not an act of "god"

Destiny, no such thing as a "god"

 

[Type Username Here]

This makes perfect logical sense to a person without faith.

Religious people on the other hand feel like their time here is just a very small blip in their overall existence. They feel whatever happens on earth was done purposely by god to prepare them for their eternity with him.

Can you say this to a pile of burning children?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Okay, thank you once again for proving my point.

It's condescending when people challenge the assertions and beliefs of people if those people happen to be religious, but they have free reign to impose on others.

You made your views perfectly clear Meach.

That's your narrative that you want to keep pushing, and it is why you responded the way you did.

Plenty of people came in here and disagreed with the op, without being condescending about it. You didn't do that cause your too busy fighting the "atheism/theism" fight.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Can you say this to a pile of burning children?

No I couldn't. But I understand how some people could. It's faith and its not as illogical as y'all are making it, if you look at it from the viewpoint that the earth and our bodies are just vessels for gods will.

 

[NoMayo15]

Yall still trying to prove my faith in God is wrong. Can't you guys understand that nothing you post or any of your hypotheticals will make me lose my faith or second guess the Lord.

Not trying to prove anything, just pointing out the flawed reasoning in your conclusion. There's nothing wrong with you, people make similar leaps in logic every day. Believe whatever you want to, but if you think others are going to be convinced that what happened to you was an answered prayer, you're goin need something better than what's akin to taking a tylenol, praying, and your headache went away.

I shared an experience I had on a forum that has religion as one of its topics of discussion. Its sad that some of you feel the need to put me down for those beliefs. Never did I insult or try and push my religion on anyone and when asked questions about why I answered with truthful experiences that has happened to me.

If you didn't want the discussion, you should have kept your experience off the forum. I mean... is this your first time on the internet or something? OF COURSE you're going to be flamed and trolled. How naive are you?

Anyone that's saying that I'm selfish for praying to God to help me follow the path he has set for me is ridicules. If you know anything about the Faith you would know pray and a relationship with God is a must. Who are you to tell God which prayers are worth answer or not?

Again I'm sharing my experience with the Lord. If you disagree that's fine but to say my prayer was selfish and anything but a sincere practice and expression of my faith is untrue and unfounded.

But you have to realize that the way you presented it made it seem like you were only praying because you needed something at the moment. Of course it seems selfish when there are people out there praying with ACTUAL problems.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

is this your first time on the internet or something? OF COURSE you're going to be flamed and trolled.

THE "PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE" PEOPLE HERE SAY THEY'RE CLAMORING FOR WOULD BE MUCH MORE LIKELY IF THEY COULD MUSTER THE PATIENCE TO BE AT LEAST A LITTLE POLITE, BROTHER!

 

[Mowgli]

so many demons in here
@Mowgli can we please say a prayer

OUR Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

@sicc2def that was such a great story and thanks for sharing. I'm so glad things have worked out for your benefit. Like the Word says, "all things work together for the good of them that the love the Lord and are called according to His purpose." I'm glad you put that part in about praying according to God's will and not just what we want because its easy to forget that sometimes!

But anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for the encouragement! I also just had an interview today and I'm praying it all works out as well!

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Lol@this whole thread...geez.

 

[Versa]

Beautiful. God bless. Say a prayer for me when you read this.

 

[No1]

That's because people are assuming faith from the beginning and then trying to justify it with logic in retrospect... it's impossible. I would respect it if people just said it was faith and left it at that, instead of coming up with illogical attempts at rationalization, or patronizing comments about God's mysteriousness.

Some things aren't worth arguing about. He's not proselytizing. I don't see any entitlement on his end. Just seems like a good dude who is happy about what he has and he points to God for it. If you find that unreasonable that's fine but there's no need to beat him over the head with it. My best friend in college was atheist, and I never ever felt the need to disagree with what I felt were some of his more extreme views because they were minor in the greater scheme of things. I just think you need need to put a face on this. If some old black woman came in thanking the lord for bringing her child home safe from war, would you really be arguing with her about the statistical probabilities and logic of it and why her son and not other people's sons'....say this women is a social worker and a quality person, is it really warranted to try to beat her over the head...

I'll admit that in life (basically whenever I'm not on this board) that I'm not a very argumentative person unless it calls for it. But this guy wasn't doing anything you just talked about (unless things have changed since I was last in here). It's like you didn't read the thread. There's not entitlement on his end. He did nothing wrong. Let that man be happy. Come on fam...in another thread, in another scenario with a guy pushing his views I'd side with you, but this...come on...this is venturing into "I have to argue everything" territory. That's what @Jutt and @MeachTheMonster were getting at. I know it's HL, and I get it, but I just don't see the point.

 

[Jutt]

Some things aren't worth arguing about. He's not proselytizing. I don't see any entitlement on his end. Just seems like a good dude who is happy about what he has and he points to God for it. If you find that unreasonable that's fine but there's no need to beat him over the head with it. My best friend in college was atheist, and I never ever felt the need to disagree with what I felt were some of his more extreme views because they were minor in the greater scheme of things. I just think you need need to put a face on this. If some old black woman came in thanking the lord for bringing her child home safe from war, would you really be arguing with her about the statistical probabilities and logic of it and why her son and not other people's sons'....say this women is a social worker and a quality person, is it really warranted to try to beat her over the head...

I'll admit that in life (basically whenever I'm not on this board) that I'm not a very argumentative person unless it calls for it. But this guy wasn't doing anything you just talked about (unless things have changed since I was last in here). It's like you didn't read the thread. There's not entitlement on his end. He did nothing wrong. Let that man be happy. Come on fam...in another thread, in another scenario with a guy pushing his views I'd side with you, but this...come on...this is venturing into "I have to argue everything" territory. That's what @Jutt and @MeachTheMonster were getting at. I know it's HL, and I get it, but I just don't see the point.

Prolific posting