TikTok is one step closer to being banned in the USA

[Rice N Beans]

I get it, but there will be no change to the user experience on TikTok no matter what happens with this bill

Did we not learn from the Twitter sale, as a recent example?

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Who is them, ChatGPT-4?

what is china going to do with your data.

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Buying products from a foreign company is different than a foreign company being the major controller of critical American infrastructure. Like.....LEVELS....different. But you know what. You got it.

... TikTok?

TikTok is more crucial to you to American infrastructure than the iPhones people use to log on to TikTok??

If you honestly view TikTok that way, you may be terminally online and need to take a break from your phone.

 

[Ozymandeas]

... TikTok?

TikTok is more crucial to you to American infrastructure than the iPhones people use to log on to TikTok??

If you honestly view TikTok that way, you may be terminally online and need to take a break from your phone.

Says the guy screaming to defend it. TikTok could get banned tomorrow and I could care less.

If you honestly don't see why the Chinese government influencing millions of American is bad, you need to read a book.

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Says the guy screaming to defend it. TikTok could get banned tomorrow and I could care less.

If you honestly don't see why the Chinese government influencing millions of American is bad, you need to read a book.

I don't have TikTok either.

We're not talking about the Chinese government influencing millions of Americans. You've already made clear you were perfectly okay with China doing that as long as the parent company is American. This thread is about TikTok specifically. I'm the one calling for regulation across the entire industry. You're the one saying no, it should be allowed, except in the case of TikTok specifically.

 

[choc_cardigan]

It's like every thread on this site is destined to get overwhelmed by shyt posting and trolling.

 

[CrimsonTider]

It could either go away or have some American bag man own it for the Saudis or Russian. I don’t use it, so I don’t really care tbh. I only dislike the precedent they are setting and the ramifications of this.

We agree, but I do use TikTok and it is a different experience than any other social media because you’re consuming content based on your interest and TikTok algorithm technology for what videos to show users is far ahead of any other social media becauase every other social media is built for you to consume content of the accounts you follow

I don’t think the bill get through the senate nor do I think Biden will sign it. It’s just bad politically, especially in an election year

But if he does sign it, then Snapchat or some other tech company will buy it and Bytedance will sell it

 

[Ozymandeas]

Precedent was already set

Grindr sold by Chinese owner after US raised national security concerns | TechCrunch

Grindr was found to have allowed engineers in Beijing access to Grindr's users' private data while under Chinese ownership.

techcrunch.com

 

[mastermind]

We agree, but I do use TikTok and it is a different experience than any other social media because you’re consuming content based on your interest and TikTok algorithm technology for what videos to show users is far ahead of any other social media becauase every other social media is built for you to consume content of the accounts you follow

I don’t think the bill get through the senate nor do I think Biden will sign it. It’s just bad politically, especially in an election year

But if he does sign it, then Snapchat or some other tech company will buy it and Bytedance will sell it

i think the Senate may save us here, tbh. I don't think it passes either, but I don't like this precedence being set for anything.

 

[Hood Critic]

If nothing else came out of this circular argument we've been having, I at least learned about TikTok's Project Texas. The fact that they're going to spend a couple billion dollars to address national security concerns and have already started to appease the US government on regulatory issues - means that there indeed is/was a threat worth addressing.

 

[bnew]

Precedent was already set

Grindr sold by Chinese owner after US raised national security concerns | TechCrunch

Grindr was found to have allowed engineers in Beijing access to Grindr's users' private data while under Chinese ownership.

techcrunch.com

nah that was an american company before it was acquired and then resold back to americans 6x profit. TIkTok isn't obligated to sell anything. they've probably were offered a a lot of money to acquire the company before politicians started threatening them with a ban. i'm sure it's the same thing that happened with Skype but the skype owners were smart and microsoft had to by the company the code code twice. OG skype was impossible to hack since it used encryption peer-to-peer communication for routing connections between users. guess what happened when microsoft bought it, they centralized everything and made it less secure. all of a governments weren't complaining about not being able to surveil users on the platform.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

The fact that you are not the least bit skeptical of everything the U.S government says foreign policy wise is flabbergasting.

Your snarky replies can’t erase the last 80 years of U.S foreign policy fukkery.

Facts.
Anybody with any sense and understanding of US foreign policy
nose what this is about.

 

[mastermind]

nah that was an american company before it was acquired and then resold back to americans 6x profit. TIkTok isn't obligated to sell anything. they've probably were offered a a lot of money to acquire the company before politicians started threatening them with a ban. i'm sure it's the same thing that happened with Skype but the skype owners were smart and microsoft had to by the company the code code twice. OG skype was impossible to hack since it used encryption peer-to-peer communication for routing connections between users. guess what happened when microsoft bought it, they centralized everything and made it less secure. all of a governments weren't complaining about not being able to surveil users on the platform.

People saying this is about data protection have not paid attention to what little our legislatures have done since social media was seen as potentially harmful.

They straight-up do not care. Everything about this is ensuring American companies control the internet in the non-Chinese world. Nothing else.

Sadly, we are fortunate the EU has done small regulatory work on this, but that's not close to enough.

 

[88m3]

Hong Kong Adopts Sweeping Security Laws, Bowing to Beijing

The legislation targets “external interference” and the theft of state secrets, with implications for businesses, journalists, civil servants and others.

www.nytimes.com

Nice! -HL All Star 2024'

 

[Ozymandeas]

nah that was an american company before it was acquired and then resold back to americans 6x profit. TIkTok isn't obligated to sell anything. they've probably were offered a a lot of money to acquire the company before politicians started threatening them with a ban. i'm sure it's the same thing that happened with Skype but the skype owners were smart and microsoft had to by the company the code code twice. OG skype was impossible to hack since it used encryption peer-to-peer communication for routing connections between users. guess what happened when microsoft bought it, they centralized everything and made it less secure. all of a governments weren't complaining about not being able to surveil users on the platform.

This point is so irrelevant.

Grindr was owned by a Chinese company. Since you brought this point up...Does the EU distinguish between foreign companies started by Chinese people in China vs. European companies that were acquired by foreign Chinese companies? No. It's semantics and irrevelant. Every company that operates within the EU has to follow their regulations and their procedures or they can gtfo. Period.

America is no different.

And since I know you didn't read the article. Grindr was forced to sell to because we were concerned that people's private information could be accessed by the Chinese government. Which is the same exact sh*t. Now I know you not gonna argue Washington had it out for gay nikkas getting their sphincters busted. This was news in 2020. Nobody gave a sh*t. Nobody argued it was "Sinophobia". It made sense to not let China see that sort of information.

CFIUS expressed concern that data from the app’s some 27 million users could be used by the Chinese government. Last year, it was reported that while under Chinese ownership, Grindr allowed engineers in Beijing access to the personal data of millions of U.S. users, including their private messages and HIV status.

Lastly...your point about Skype. One, we're not talking about Skype. Two, Skype having end to end encryption or not having end to end encryption is an irrelevant strawman. The point is....is Microsoft or Skype sharing people's personal information with Beijing