doublecheese
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Tik Tok About To Be Thrown in the Bushes
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IIVI
Superstar
My thing is this: like dude's point was - all companies are doing what they're accusing this guy's company of.
What has congress done vs them for last two decades?
What honestly is China going to do with my data that is more dangerous than what the U.S can do with the same data?
In fact, I'm more scared about what the former does because I actually live here.
My point still stands as well: I don't trust these guys making decisions about A.I policies for shyt. You know why?
Because they would have done something already, years ago like they've been warned since at least 2017.
Now these dinosaurs are going to try and understand what OpenAI is doing and worse: trying to keep up with what it's doing rather than getting ahead of it when they had the opportunity
My concern isn't necessarily about the Tiktok CEO, it's about boomer, out of touch politicians running this country.
Suddenly when asked about GPS location data and its use and sale, he needs to check on specifics and isnt sure about his own apps capabilities. “That would be a very technical question, i’ll have to get back to you.”
And he won’t commit to not selling data in the future…
Y’all are bring up the most irrelevant ass shyt. Talking about what about Facebook, Google, YouTube, etc…nikka folks be on they ass too. But this a damn Chinese company, which are our mothafukking opps.
Them nikkas collecting hella data in the most aggressive ways, and instead of worrying about them having our data to sell us shyt and market to us like these other companies, we also know the Chinese government got access to it. With all the espionage that go on between countries, this is a blatant app that can and will be used for large scale spying/data collection.
Our government not supposed to honor that shyt. Especially when we got similar companies where we could collect their data and give it to our own government on some, look what these fukk nikkas been doing shyt. But the Chinese ain’t no rookie ass nikkas and said fukk no fukk nikka, you dumb as hell if you think we about to let y’all have Google over here.
Them nikkas collecting hella data in the most aggressive ways, and instead of worrying about them having our data to sell us shyt and market to us like these other companies, we also know the Chinese government got access to it. With all the espionage that go on between countries, this is a blatant app that can and will be used for large scale spying/data collection.
Our government not supposed to honor that shyt. Especially when we got similar companies where we could collect their data and give it to our own government on some, look what these fukk nikkas been doing shyt. But the Chinese ain’t no rookie ass nikkas and said fukk no fukk nikka, you dumb as hell if you think we about to let y’all have Google over here.
Yeah…you, joe citizen. If say, we find a chinese spy, their government could in theory use data gathered from tiktok installed phones to see who arrrested them, where they live, what coffee shop they go to, where their kids go to school, where the spy is being detained, etc
This hearing is the national security committee….so the use of data by us companies is a secondary concern…this is about national security.
This shyt is crazy my dude…people in this thread saying what about youtube as if its remotely the same threat to national security lol.
IIVI
Superstar
Chinese probably already got espionage on them like that. Those are targets of political power, they know who they are already and everything about them. They don't need fukking Tiktok to do that, an app they probably don't even use
Some of the best data hackers on the planet live in China and they most likely got all that information from accessing American databases and the countless credit card, school system, company records systems, etc. Like the hundreds to thousands of hacks that occur every year.
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So we should just let tiktok run wild then too? What even is your point?Chinese probably already got espionage on them like that. They don't need fukking Tiktok to do that
Some of the best data hackers on the planet live in China and they most likely got all that information from accessing American databases.
IIVI
Superstar
Point is they're not doing anything new here. Every one of these apps collect data and all that data is stored and can be accessed by malicious parties (or parties who pay money). Data got to be stored and persisted somewhere, in some fashion, the second you create an account. All sitting in the open with a large surface area of attack.
Even recently we saw this is Linus Tech Tips yesterday who basically had years of work wiped out by some ordinary hackers looking for some Bitcoin payments. The Google mega-conglomerate, aced by some small-time hackers.
2nd point: I don't trust our government to navigate our A.I waters if they're this out of touch. Need better, younger leadership with the times. Again, if they were in-touch they would've got ahead of this problem and be proactive about A.I, not reactive.
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If the malicious party is quite potentially a hostile government, and the spyware is in tens of millions of american devices…yeah…you should address it.
They arent as out of touch on this issue as you’re making it seem. Most of the lines of questions were relevant and had a point. It was significantly more clear than the facebook hearings for example.
The people at ChatGPT barely know what theyre making, admittedly…that is hyperexponential growth that isnt a fair standard to compare.
1. The woman in that tweet in OP did no favors with that quote, I'd much rather her just say that "we're banning you because you're not American or one of the countries associated with us"
2. Facebook and Twitter has a history of doing the same thing TikTok is doing
3. Will be interesting to see what happens to the content creators and the artists who were successful on there (tho I feel something else will come along and full the void)
2. Facebook and Twitter has a history of doing the same thing TikTok is doing
3. Will be interesting to see what happens to the content creators and the artists who were successful on there (tho I feel something else will come along and full the void)
IIVI
Superstar
The thing is everyone knew automation was a thing, UBI and the like aren't new concepts.
The government is late af and only falling more behind by the day.
Really tough economic times coming and no plans of relief.
That's what I'm worried about here. Yet they're busy playing theatrics and grandstanding with this Tiktok guy, doing nothing really much more different than any other social media app is doing: hosting data that can be attacked by anybody, easily if they wanted to.
Like have you seen the new suite of ChatGPT plugins OpenAI created and announced yesterday?
If you work with spreadsheets, or data entry, well your company probably needs you less now for example. Well, that's a lot of people.
This ain't only a threat to blue collar American jobs like the industrial revolution, it's a thread to dang near every desk job. Yet here we are standing around with zero policies protecting this country's citizens. It's shortsighted and incompetent, period.
This has nothing to do with the national security committee which is the (most) bi partisan committee questioning TikTok. You're not wrong regarding the threat of AI but it's a complete strawman argument. And they aren't "playing grandstanding with this tik tok guy doing nothing really". Really weird way to describe this hearing.
Devilinurear
Veteran
Too many dummies
Just create broad laws so no company can misuse data