Thurman showed what a real showcase fight is, AB is just a bum

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

One Time DESTROYS Porter

nikka was getting rocked N discouraged by Special Ks Chocolate Brownie Right hand

Thurman would do the same exact shyt N has more power then Kell...easy work

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Thurman would actually sit down on his punches and connect with some real brutal counters if Shawn Porter ever jumped at him and missed with one of those wild ass haymakers he's throwing.

Fight would prolly look like them old Manny sparring sessions where Porter is getting dropped repeatedly.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

An inside fighter will HAVE to walk through some serious hell & fire power to get that close. That's the exact reason Ghost couldn't walk him down & put that kind of pressure on him. Good luck finding someone that's willing to gamble on their chin to try that. Also don't forget about the head injury Thurman had which clearly made him change tactics.

thurman is here to stay. Please make him vs brook fight the winner of may/pac. May gone have like 10 belts, like it was back in the day Stylin on nikkas

 

[Big Boss]

I agree with that. Like I said before, the Taylor's/Molina's should be done with now. Only problem is, Al Haymon doesnt have anyone at 140 for AB to fight who's ranked high....they all belong to TR besides Prov and he would have to beat Matthysse first

140 Division:

RING Champion: Danny Garcia (friends...but he's moving up to 147 shortly)
#1: Lucas Matthysse (Golden Boy)
#2: Lamont Peterson (friends)
#3: Chris Algieri (Top Rank)
#4: Ruslan Provodnikov (maybe an option, as long as he beats Matthysse, being that he's no longer with Top Rank)
#5: Adrien Broner
#6: Jessie Vargas (Top Rank)
#7: Viktor Postol (Top Rank)
#8: Khabib Allahkerdiev (Top Rank)
#9: Thomas Dulorme (Top Rank)
#10: Mauricio Herrera (Golden Boy)

And Terence Crawford is with TR as well


We really have no strong options amongst the Top 10

@ that list

if haymon and arum can work together for the floyd/manny fight they can work together for these other fights.

 

[Newzz]

One Time DESTROYS Porter

nikka was getting rocked N discouraged by Special Ks Chocolate Brownie Right hand

Thurman would do the same exact shyt N has more power then Kell...easy work

:yeahright:


Thurman didnt look to great against the pressure and inside fighting of Ghost....what's he gonna do with a guy that's bigger, stronger, and faster than Guerrero up in his grill


Also Kell Brook > Robert Guerrero, so talking about what Showtime did with BROOK compared to what Thurman did to Guerrero means 0.


Look at what Showtime did in the Alexander fight and compare it to what Thurman did in the Guerrero fight....then get back to me


And let's not try and act like Guerrero is better than Alexander folks...they are on the same exact level.

 

[Newzz]

Thurman would actually sit down on his punches and connect with some real brutal counters if Shawn Porter ever jumped at him and missed with one of those wild ass haymakers he's throwing.

Fight would prolly look like them old Manny sparring sessions where Porter is getting dropped repeatedly.

Nope.


Showtime beats Thurman. Thurman would be best advised to avoid him or face his 1st L



Showtime is all wrong for Thurman.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

:yeahright:


Thurman cant handle the pressure and inside fighting of Ghost....what's he gonna do with a guy that's bigger, stronger, and faster up in his grill


Kell Brook > Robert Guerrero.


Look at what Showtime did in the Alexander fight and compare it to what Thurman did in the Guerrero fight....then get back to me


And let's not try and act like Guerrero is better than Alexander folks

The only reason Thurman had trouble handling Guerrero's pressure is because he was already winded/gassed from trying like hell to finish dude off in that corner.

Once that happened, the Ghost finally decided to take a gamble. He never tried that shyt earlier, because he couldn't since he was getting pieced up from the outside whenever he tried. If this would have happened earlier or while both fighters were still fresh, than I can see your point, but it didn't so.

Porter is stronger and a lil quicker than the Ghost, but he's wayyyy to wild and open for a guy like Thurman. Brook beat dude without stepping on the gas or sitting on his shots. Thurman would have KO'ed Porter that night.

Let's not make Porter out to be some type of James Kirkland pressure/hard punching monster because he isn't. Porter is a strong swarmer with shytty accuracy with above average punching power.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

:yeahright:


Thurman didnt look to great against the pressure and inside fighting of Ghost....what's he gonna do with a guy that's bigger, stronger, and faster than Guerrero up in his grill


Also Kell Brook > Robert Guerrero, so talking about what Showtime did with BROOK compared to what Thurman did to Guerrero means 0.


Look at what Showtime did in the Alexander fight and compare it to what Thurman did in the Guerrero fight....then get back to me


And let's not try and act like Guerrero is better than Alexander folks...they are on the same exact level.

Thurman couldnt handle Ghosts Pressure N infighting

I guess the first Nine rounds of that fight didn't happen ...seemed like One Time handled things pretty well even with a softball sized knot on his head

Thurman blew his load in the 9th trying to finish the fight...Rd 10 Guerrero FINALLY got inside on a gassed Thurman N did lil to no Damage...Rd 11 Thurman rested N Moved...Rd 12 Thurman went toe to toe

You can try to dismiss Guerrero all you Want but his Chin > Porters by far

How is Porter goin get inside while eating them shots?? Its goin get ugly for Porter

Rare occasion he does get inside tie him up N watch him waste energy struggling out the clinch N throwing meaningless punches

 

[Newzz]

The only reason Thurman had trouble handling Guerrero's pressure is because he was already winded/gassed from trying like hell to finish dude off in that corner.

Once that happened, the Ghost finally decided to take a gamble. He never tried that shyt earlier, because he couldn't since he was getting pieced up from the outside whenever he tried. If this would have happened earlier or while both fighters were still fresh, than I can see your point, but it didn't so.

Porter is stronger and a lil quicker than the Ghost, but he's wayyyy to wild and open for a guy like Thurman. Brook beat dude without stepping on the gas or sitting on his shots. Thurman would have KO'ed Porter that night.

Let's not make Porter out to be some type of James Kirkland pressure/hard punching monster because he isn't. Porter is a strong swarmer with shytty accuracy with above average punching power.

Thurman would not be able to stop Showtime from eating him alive on the inside. He's a strong swarmer, who's fast, and is physically stronger than Thurman.


Thurman is too small to keep Porter up off of him. Thurman would be on his bike definitely against Porter.


And I wish yall would stop bringing up Kell Brook. Brook is MUCH better than Guerrero and the reason he won is that he held on for dear life against Porter on the inside, relagating the match to an outside fight...Thurman wont be strong enough to do the same.

 

[patscorpio]

:yeahright:


Thurman didnt look to great against the pressure and inside fighting of Ghost....what's he gonna do with a guy that's bigger, stronger, and faster than Guerrero up in his grill


Also Kell Brook > Robert Guerrero, so talking about what Showtime did with BROOK compared to what Thurman did to Guerrero means 0.


Look at what Showtime did in the Alexander fight and compare it to what Thurman did in the Guerrero fight....then get back to me


And let's not try and act like Guerrero is better than Alexander folks...they are on the same exact level.

nah devon has actually been a legit top 5 in the divisions hes operated in with better victories, guerrero is a tier below.

 

[Newzz]

Thurman couldnt handle Ghosts Pressure N infighting

I guess the first Nine rounds of that fight didn't happen ...seemed like One Time handled things pretty well even with a softball sized knot on his head

Thurman blew his load in the 9th trying to finish the fight...Rd 10 Guerrero FINALLY got inside on a gassed Thurman N did lil to no Damage...Rd 11 Thurman rested N Moved...Rd 12 Thurman went toe to toe

You can try to dismiss Guerrero all you Want but his Chin > Porters by far

How is Porter goin get inside while eating them shots?? Its goin get ugly for Porter

Rare occasion he does get inside tie him up N watch him waste energy struggling out the clinch N throwing meaningless punches

Thurman isnt physically strong enough to deal with/clinch and hold Showtime Porter on the inside like Brook was


I swear, let Thurman fight Porter and both yall nikkas getting the "I told you so " from me with no remorse.


How DARE yall compare Thurman fighting Guerrero against Porter fighting Brook or how Thurman fighting Porter would play out because of what Thurman did to a much weaker opponent in Guerrero


We gonna have to let the dog out on another cat burglar it seems

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Thurman looked pretty strong in constantly backing up the Ghost with devastating right hands and left hooks.

Porter's strength doesn't mean much if it gets negated by basic pivots/circling which is what Brook did. nikkas let the Paulie and Alexander fights gas Shawn up. Those two boxers used the wrong gameplan. They got suckered into Porter's fight and ended up losing. Brook didn't and won. (even though I didn't think Brook looked good in doing so, he looked better than Shawn)


Porter is no James Kirkland. He doesn't rush at you violently with heavy accurate shots non stop. He charges at you and leaps in with wild ass punches and clinches whenever he gets close and tries to wear you down. Sometimes he'll come in behind a good jab, sometimes he won't Dude's pressure ain't consistent.

Boxer punchers are the worst types of match ups for swarmers like Porter.

For now, I'll fall back on this match up. Let's see how Shawn looks against Margarito's left overs and then reevaluate this fight.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Now that I think about it, Thurman/Guerrero mirrors Taylor/Ouma

- light hitting southpaw going up against a bigger more skilled boxer puncher
- both kept running into hard flush ass right hands and left hooks, uppercuts, smashes etc...
- both managed to survive and look semi-competitive at the end of the fight
- both bouts were meant to be showcase fights


Only difference is Ouma >>>Guerrero and that Thurman had more fans going into the fight and won more afterwards while Taylor had went in with less and prolly lost more fans after that fight.

Just gotta give it some time to see if Thurman ruined Guerrero or not. All those hard punches sure won't improve the Ghost's career though. He really took a beating. Ouma was never the same either after that fight with Taylor and really hit rock bottom (nikka lost to K9 so you know shyt is trill )

 

[Newzz]

Now that I think about it, Thurman/Guerrero mirrors Taylor/Ouma

- light hitting southpaw going up against a bigger more skilled boxer puncher
- both kept running into hard flush ass right hands and left hooks, uppercuts, smashes etc...
- both managed to survive and look semi-competitive at the end of the fight
- both bouts were meant to be showcase fights


Only difference is Ouma >>>Guerrero and that Thurman had more fans going into the fight and won more afterwards while Taylor had went in with less and prolly lost more fans after that fight.

Just gotta give it some time to see if Thurman ruined Guerrero or not. All those hard punches sure won't improve the Ghost's career though. He really took a beating. Ouma was never the same either after that fight with Taylor and really hit rock bottom (nikka lost to K9 so you know shyt is trill )

Guerrero needs to drop down to 140. I don't see him beating any top 10 Welterweights after Saturday night beating he took from Thurman

 

[patscorpio]

Guerrero is going to shorten his career if he keeps fukking around at 147...this is a division that even Paulie was able to get a couple stoppages...ghost is not a welter and he should realize that.