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nothing is monolithic in life. Of course the brits have contributed , the same way they've also oppressed.

i never said the british were monolithically good, i point it out to show the proper frame of reference of islamic slavery, the british and other european were brutal slave traders, if you need a european to stop you from slave trading than you have no moral authority in terms of slavery, so the islamic world has zero moral standing when it comes to slavery

on top of that there is no reason for black people to hold on to an outdated third world ideology because nothing is monolithic in life, why should black people treat every tom dikk and harry that has been oppressed by europeans as one monolithic block?
 

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i never said the british were monolithically good, i point it out to show the proper frame of reference of islamic slavery, the british and other european were brutal slave traders, if you need a european to stop you from slave trading than you have no moral authority in terms of slavery, so the islamic world has zero moral standing when it comes to slavery

on top of that there is no reason for black people to hold on to an outdated third world ideology because nothing is monolithic in life, why should black people treat every tom dikk and harry that has been oppressed by europeans as one monolithic block?

The reason is that the europeans were already 'done' with their slave trade and were abolitionist by that time. Has nothing to do with brutality vs non brutality. And the "islamic world" was much larger than dudes in the arab peninsula and east/north africa and the extra shipping destinations to the east

As for the second question you keep mixing up my point with the idea of personal action. Of course most people who've been oppressed by europeans don't look to each other for personal brotherhood, any more than I'd randomly be fraternal with a chinese person. But the Chinese and my people have also intersected in resistance and that's a fact.
 

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The real truth about Islam is that the majority of people don't understand it and are either too antagonistic and narrow minded to learn about it.

The most obvious truth about Islam is that some people dislike and/or hate it (for whatever reason) so they bring up things like pedophilia, rape, crimes, hate, slavery, etc.- not because those are random issues they feel strongly about; but because those are things that were cause solely by human motivations but can easily be used to blame and associate Islam/Holy-prophets/Books with.

You all been having the same arguments for 7+ years with the same people.
 

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The real truth about Islam is that the majority of people don't understand it and are either too antagonistic and narrow minded to learn about it.

The most obvious truth about Islam is that some people dislike and/or hate it (for whatever reason) so they bring up things like pedophilia, rape, crimes, hate, slavery, etc.- not because those are random issues they feel strongly about; but because those are things that were cause solely by human motivations but can easily be used to blame and associate Islam/Holy-prophets/Books with.

You all been having the same arguments for 7+ years with the same people.

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If I find things like rape and slavery Morally reprehensible but i find out a religion says they are fine what is there to understand? The only thing to understand about is that is an mythology that does not fit into this modern world.
 

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The reason is that the europeans were already 'done' with their slave trade and were abolitionist by that time. Has nothing to do with brutality vs non brutality. And the "islamic world" was much larger than dudes in the arab peninsula and east/north africa and the extra shipping destinations to the east

its not about brutality its about morality, posters were insinuating and saying it directly that islam had a higher moral ground than other religions as far as slavery

so the fact that christians forced muslims to end slavery calls into question any suggestions of Islam having a higher moral stance

as far as brutality, i would assert that anybody that wants to argue that muslims had a kinder and gentler slavery are showing low moral standards and all they are doing is embarrassing themselves, but if you want to embarrass your religion even more we can have that argument, i got links on deck
And the "islamic world" was much larger than dudes in the arab peninsula and east/north africa and the extra shipping destinations to the east

i could give a fuk about the islamic world outside of africa

As for the second question you keep mixing up my point with the idea of personal action. Of course most people who've been oppressed by europeans don't look to each other for personal brotherhood, any more than I'd randomly be fraternal with a chinese person. But the Chinese and my people have also intersected in resistance and that's a fact.

but what fact is it that i am disputing, im not disputing any facts
 

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If I find things like rape and slavery Morally reprehensible but i find out a religion says they are fine what is there to understand? The only thing to understand about is that is an mythology that does not fit into this modern world.

Please quote me where Islam says "slavery and rape are fine," thanks.
 

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Defending Mahers racism against Muslims

The sad thing is most of the Muslims here, or at least the most outspoken ones, seem to confirm and reinforce every negative stereotype and generalization people make about Muslims. I think a lot of Americans who didn't know much about Islam were willing to go with Bush's "Islam is a peaceful religion" statement off face value, and the more people learned about Islam and the actions and thoughts of those who follow it, they concluded otherwise. They talked about this on real time with Bill Maher last night.

Lying and saying he's not Jewish


:what: No he doesn't. He does dikkride Israel, but he doesn't believe in God and is an atheist. He's always been very clear about that.

Op is a fakkit .. That is all. :hubie:
 

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The impressive thing here is that for the first time in your despicable posting career you've managed to muster more than 2 words. :obama:

lol

lol, this is funny, it is true tho, there was a time when 88 wouldn't write a whole sentence, his posts would be just random phrases, now dude can't shut up lol

classic thread tho

what happened to getinthetrunk, that was the Indian 5 per center

blackking got into some beef with Tariq nasheed after getting banned
 

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Defending Mahers racism against Muslims



Lying and saying he's not Jewish




Op is a fakkit .. That is all. :hubie:
I’m supposed to support ukraine though


That’s okay, let’s let this thread slip under the radar.

yesterday was The Unvaxxed

before that it was MAGA Q anon

Now it’s Russians
 

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I’m supposed to support ukraine though


That’s okay, let’s let this thread slip under the radar.

yesterday was The Unvaxxed

before that it was MAGA Q anon

Now it’s Russians
I don't let anyone tell me who to support and I'm very vocal about it:mjlol:

They all hate you for being a black Muslim, but expect empathy for fakkits and trannies because they are white:francis:

I'm reporting all these posters let's see if they get banned:yeshrug:
 
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