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This Myth That LeBron James Makes His Teammates Better.......
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Did you read my post? I addressed all of that.I am still waiting on someone to explain to me how this 6'11 nikka grabbing 7 reb a game is not only acceptable but the fault of someone else. If he was a true franchise guy there is no way he would be 3rd wheel spot up shooting glorified tall 2 guard status right now. You put a prime Duncan or Shaq or Dream on this team with Bron and Wade and while they might not be scoring as many points they would be grabbing double digit rebounds and beasting in the paint on both ends (well Shaq would on offense at least). nikkas had to wait for Lebron to develop a post game in order to have a post presence.
malbaker86
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Dude was getting cooked all night, but they convieniantly
I wanted to specifically single out this post.
Heat stans had the nerve to say "Bron will check Tony Parker" yet last night, George Hill was cookin him off the dribble quite often.
Were the Raptors as a team stellar when bosh was scoring all of those points?
No.
So him sacrificing his game for the betterment of the team which resulted in a finals appearance, one ring and another ECF appearance should mean less to him than being the man in Toronto?
Why do you guys insist in making the routine that is sacrificing your game for the betterment of your team, new or old, as a slight to another player?
You guys are beyond stupid
The audacity of this jackass calling someone stupid when he's the same idiot who argued that music doesn't influence people
Bosh was a more effective player in Toronto. His PER in his final season with the team was 25.0 and his best with the Heat thus far has been 20.0
His success in Miami comes from playing with the best player in the world, the 2nd best shooting guard in the world, superior role players and superior coaching. He dumbed down his game and tripled his playoff wins. There's nothing wrong with that, but Lebron has not made him a better player. He's made the game easier due to being LBJ and has brought Bosh more success. There is a difference.
When you have 3 super talented players on one team, one of them is going to have to be reduced to a shell of what they were. In this case it was Bosh. He is NOT a better player with the Miami Heat.
I am still waiting on someone to explain to me how this 6'11 nikka grabbing 7 reb a game is not only acceptable but the fault of someone else. If he was a true franchise guy there is no way he would be 3rd wheel spot up shooting glorified tall 2 guard status right now. You put a prime Duncan or Shaq or Dream on this team with Bron and Wade and while they might not be scoring as many points they would be grabbing double digit rebounds and beasting in the paint on both ends (well Shaq would on offense at least). nikkas had to wait for Lebron to develop a post game in order to have a post presence.
Chris bosh was never a post up type of player, but he did average 10+ rebounds his last 2 seasons with the Raptors. I agree that 6.9 rebounds game for a guy of his height is not good enough, but he's showed in the past he can be a legit good rebounder.
Born2BKing
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But is this Bron Bron's fault?
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
The audacity of this jackass calling someone stupid when he's the same idiot who argued that music doesn't influence people
Bosh was a more effective player in Toronto. His PER in his final season with the team was 25.0 and his best with the Heat thus far has been 20.0
His success in Miami comes from playing with the best player in the world, the 2nd best shooting guard in the world, superior role players and superior coaching. He dumbed down his game and tripled his playoff wins. There's nothing wrong with that, but Lebron has not made him a better player. He's made the game easier due to being LBJ and has brought Bosh more success. There is a difference.
When you have 3 super talented players on one team, one of them is going to have to be reduced to a shell of what they were. In this case it was Bosh. He is NOT a better player with the Miami Heat.
I said music affirms people's mindset that are already there.
Second, the entire "making him a better player" argument is pure media fluff. It's just dumb. If a player leaves and gives up something for the betterment of their team, you guys insist its a crime now because of your personal feelings about a player.
Amazing how one of the most basic thing we've seen play over and over again in sports (dr. J, Kareem in later years....etc) where a player takes a smaller role for their teams success now has some sort of blame attached to it because you new age niqqas insist on perverting the normal.
The audacity of this jackass calling someone stupid when he's the same idiot who argued that music doesn't influence people
Bosh was a more effective player in Toronto. His PER in his final season with the team was 25.0 and his best with the Heat thus far has been 20.0
His success in Miami comes from playing with the best player in the world, the 2nd best shooting guard in the world, superior role players and superior coaching. He dumbed down his game and tripled his playoff wins. There's nothing wrong with that, but Lebron has not made him a better player. He's made the game easier due to being LBJ and has brought Bosh more success. There is a difference.
When you have 3 super talented players on one team, one of them is going to have to be reduced to a shell of what they were. In this case it was Bosh. He is NOT a better player with the Miami Heat.
And he's not worse either. He's just not getting as many shots and for whatever reason he is not getting to the boards like he did in TOR. How many nikkas have you seen be better as third options?
I never said Chris Bosh is wrong for taking on a reduced role. It brought him a ring, 2 finals appearances and lots of money. I actually really respect that he was able to put his ego aside for team success.
I did say however that because he's taken on a reduced role that he's no longer capable of getting the most out of his talent level. The team structure and talent don't allow him to. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing is entirely up to Chris Bosh's perspective of things. He doesn't seem to be bothered by it.
Is it? Lebron is a very good rebounder and Wade is a good one too for a shooting guard. Bosh's rebounding numbers were destined to go down along with his scoring.
Bosh's role on the team reminds me a bit of a bootleg Kevin Garnett. The Heat basically took the Celtic's blueprint and improved on it with younger talent at the wing positions.
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This is a terrible thread & a terrible OP
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NYC Rebel
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No....you just brought it up in a Bron thread and are now distancing yourself from criminalizing Bron as having some sort of fault in bosh sacrificing his game.
It's funny how when I added the ingredient of "team wins" to the equation, suddenly the Brons fault thing you were pushing loses its steam.
Field Marshall Bradley
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You transformed the sacrificing of scoring multiple points to help the collective of your team to Lebron holding Bosh and Wade back.
The fukk is wrong with niqqas in here??
I don't understand the logic either. This place used to be beautiful, but now, I just don't know any more
Bosh is a great third option but I'm not seeing how he isn't a worse player?
He's statistically far less efficient. You pointed out his rebounding has dropped significantly, so how is that not worse?
I personally feel the team will be better going into the future if Wade becomes option 3 and bosh becomes options 2, but I doubt Wade's pride will allow him to accept that.
Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
An even bigger myth is that he can guard all five spots. Wonder how well he did last night?
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
man I was trolling but damn this thread went off the deep end