This is what building NYC's new subway stations looks like
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some good info in here
nice find 
humble forever
All Star
for real i'm not hating. i'm not from nyc but when I visit i never ride the subway so it would be wrong for me to hate. all i'm saying is the subways remind of boston, a city i used to ride the subway in. the subways in america feel like dirty shyt Idk know how to say it. It could be so much better is all I want to say. I feel like we abandoned form and asthetic over function. like our stations are straight function, maybe minus that new bigass station in Manhattan
no. fukk russia i have a video of them smashing a black teenagers head against a wall with a watermelon just in case you like it beforeyou been on the moscow subway
but back in the day they used to build shyt with an air of opulence. i feel like now they're like "fukk it they'l stand here here is the train k cool build it boys"
Metro Montreal is where that shyt at. So fukkin clean and I dare anyone on here to complete the orange line challenge
Super interesting read albeit trashy
http://files.spacebar.ca/MontrealMetroDrinkingMarathon.htm
Super interesting read albeit trashy
http://files.spacebar.ca/MontrealMetroDrinkingMarathon.htm
You couldn't be more wrong about this
http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/Architectural_Designs_for_New_York's_First_Subway_(Framberger)
^ It's a long article, but a good read if you're interested. Talks about the architecture behind the first subway line
Underground Renaissance Man: Watch the Aesthetic Walls, Please
Talks about Squire Vickers, the chief architect who basically designed the vast majority of NYC subway stations (there's a slideshow link in the article for examples of his style)
New York City's Prettiest Subway Station is in the Bronx
Technically not a "subway" station and the building talked about in the article was originally built by and for a long-gone commuter railroad company, but it's apart of the NYC subway system now and was a relatively modern addition, so it counts.
Long story short, the NYC subway actually has a fascinating architectural history
I'm not surprised out-of-towners would think this though because New Yorkers themselves don't really give much thought to the surprising amount of architectural and design history in the stations we use on a regular basis. We only care about function for the most part
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Glory Of Moscow's 80-Year-Old Subway Tainted By Stalin Connections
JUNE 02, 2015 3:35 AM ET
COREY FLINTOFF
Morning Edition
4:13
Visitors check out the Soviet-era metro cars exhibited at the Partizanskaya subway station in Moscow, as part of festivities marking the subway system's 80th anniversary.
Pavel Golovkin/AP
Moscow this year is celebrating the 80th anniversary of its subway system — the Moscow Metro — a crowning achievement of the Soviet Union's unprecedented forced industrialization in the 1930s.
One of the world's biggest and busiest subways today, it has dark connections to the repressions of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin.
To celebrate, Metro officials launched a series of commemorative events. One of the most popular was a parade of vintage subway trains — the oldest of them dating from 1935, when the first section of the Moscow subway was completed.
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A re-enactor in Soviet costume from the 1930s peers out of a vintage subway car as part of the anniversary celebrations.
Corey Flintoff/NPR
A brass band played as the freshly renovated trains passed through the ornate stations of Moscow's Circle Line, which loops around the center of the city. Actors in period costumes posed as the first Soviet passengers to enjoy the achievement.
Some of the leading Soviet artists and architects of the day designed the stations, which are known for the mosaics and other artwork that adorn the walls.
Airat Bagautdinov, who leads a tour that's described as "Moscow as seen by an engineer," says a lot of the early work on the tunnel system was accomplished by sheer human sweat.
"The construction of the first line of this Moscow subway is very basic, because they really didn't have much mechanization," Bagautdinov says. "It was a big experiment. They didn't know how to construct the Metro; they didn't know what methods to choose."
At the beginning the builders of the Moscow subway had help from engineers who had worked on the London subway, but Stalin worried that they were learning too much about the layout of the city, so he had them tried for spying and deported.
A November 2012 view of the mosaics at the Komsomolskaya station of the Koltsevaya Line of the Moscow subway. The station was opened in 1952.
Kirill Kudryavtsev/AFP/Getty Images
The construction of the Metro was a major priority for Stalin, who saw it as a way to demonstrate the superiority of socialism over the capitalist world, which at the time was deep in the Great Depression.
He put one of his best managers in charge of the project, Lazar Kaganovich, known for his ruthlessness as the "Iron Commissar."
The project was "one of the highest-profile showcase constructions of the forced industrializations of Stalin's five-year plan," says Stephen Kotkin, a historian at Princeton and a fellow at the Hoover Institution. "Kaganovich has a high profile in this, because it's got to get done. And they need it to be a success — that is, the Metro's got to work."
Soviet dictator Josef Stalin put Lazar Kaganovich (in white cap) in charge of the subway construction. Here, he is shown surrounded by workers and a young Nikita Khrushchev (second from the left) as he inspected the new subway and work accomplished in Moscow in March 1934.
AP
The thousands of workers who dug the first subway needed to be fed, along with the tens of thousands who built massive steel plants and tractor factories during the same time. And the Soviets needed hard currency to buy foreign-built machinery for their new industries.
That meant taking the Soviet Union's grain harvest from the farming regions and leaving the people on the farms to starve.
The newly opened Kaluzhskaya station in Moscow, shown here in December 1949.
AP
"Kaganovich, like Stalin, bears direct responsibility for the famine," Kotkin says. "Probably 5 [million] to 7 million people died from the famine, across the Soviet Union."
FINE ART
A Dark View Of Dostoevsky On The Moscow Subway
The artwork at many of the stations features representations of idealized Soviet people: soldiers, sailors, brawny industrial workers and collective farm women holding ripe sheaves of grain. They underline the Metro's role as a symbol of Soviet achievement — but they're also an ironic reminder of the ruthless means that were employed to build it.
JUNE 02, 2015 3:35 AM ET
COREY FLINTOFF
Morning Edition
4:13
Visitors check out the Soviet-era metro cars exhibited at the Partizanskaya subway station in Moscow, as part of festivities marking the subway system's 80th anniversary.
Pavel Golovkin/AP
Moscow this year is celebrating the 80th anniversary of its subway system — the Moscow Metro — a crowning achievement of the Soviet Union's unprecedented forced industrialization in the 1930s.
One of the world's biggest and busiest subways today, it has dark connections to the repressions of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin.
To celebrate, Metro officials launched a series of commemorative events. One of the most popular was a parade of vintage subway trains — the oldest of them dating from 1935, when the first section of the Moscow subway was completed.
A re-enactor in Soviet costume from the 1930s peers out of a vintage subway car as part of the anniversary celebrations.
Corey Flintoff/NPR
A brass band played as the freshly renovated trains passed through the ornate stations of Moscow's Circle Line, which loops around the center of the city. Actors in period costumes posed as the first Soviet passengers to enjoy the achievement.
Some of the leading Soviet artists and architects of the day designed the stations, which are known for the mosaics and other artwork that adorn the walls.
Airat Bagautdinov, who leads a tour that's described as "Moscow as seen by an engineer," says a lot of the early work on the tunnel system was accomplished by sheer human sweat.
"The construction of the first line of this Moscow subway is very basic, because they really didn't have much mechanization," Bagautdinov says. "It was a big experiment. They didn't know how to construct the Metro; they didn't know what methods to choose."
At the beginning the builders of the Moscow subway had help from engineers who had worked on the London subway, but Stalin worried that they were learning too much about the layout of the city, so he had them tried for spying and deported.
A November 2012 view of the mosaics at the Komsomolskaya station of the Koltsevaya Line of the Moscow subway. The station was opened in 1952.
Kirill Kudryavtsev/AFP/Getty Images
The construction of the Metro was a major priority for Stalin, who saw it as a way to demonstrate the superiority of socialism over the capitalist world, which at the time was deep in the Great Depression.
He put one of his best managers in charge of the project, Lazar Kaganovich, known for his ruthlessness as the "Iron Commissar."
The project was "one of the highest-profile showcase constructions of the forced industrializations of Stalin's five-year plan," says Stephen Kotkin, a historian at Princeton and a fellow at the Hoover Institution. "Kaganovich has a high profile in this, because it's got to get done. And they need it to be a success — that is, the Metro's got to work."
Soviet dictator Josef Stalin put Lazar Kaganovich (in white cap) in charge of the subway construction. Here, he is shown surrounded by workers and a young Nikita Khrushchev (second from the left) as he inspected the new subway and work accomplished in Moscow in March 1934.
AP
The thousands of workers who dug the first subway needed to be fed, along with the tens of thousands who built massive steel plants and tractor factories during the same time. And the Soviets needed hard currency to buy foreign-built machinery for their new industries.
That meant taking the Soviet Union's grain harvest from the farming regions and leaving the people on the farms to starve.
The newly opened Kaluzhskaya station in Moscow, shown here in December 1949.
AP
"Kaganovich, like Stalin, bears direct responsibility for the famine," Kotkin says. "Probably 5 [million] to 7 million people died from the famine, across the Soviet Union."
FINE ART
A Dark View Of Dostoevsky On The Moscow Subway
The artwork at many of the stations features representations of idealized Soviet people: soldiers, sailors, brawny industrial workers and collective farm women holding ripe sheaves of grain. They underline the Metro's role as a symbol of Soviet achievement — but they're also an ironic reminder of the ruthless means that were employed to build it.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
i have to agree, looks like just another station
the only NYC subway station that looks cool is Bowling Green
i think DC has the coolest looking subway
the only problem is that they are all the same
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
where is the Fulton Center? what trains stop there?
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
It's by city hall on Broadway
2,3,4,5,A,C, probably a few others I never take. It's a brand new station.
Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
First train ran though the new SAS, its a maintenance train not a passenger train but its still a milestone 
Second Avenue Subway Update: First Work Train Ride by Metropolitan Transportation Authority of the State of New York, on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157654058744052
Second Avenue Subway Update: First Work Train Ride by Metropolitan Transportation Authority of the State of New York, on Flickrhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157654058744052
I remember the Spring St stop, its MUCH cleaner than the 168th station and the 191st station walkway that just got a paint job by Cope and others.Why Is Our Dirty Subway System Such A "Stomach-Turning Insult"?
The subway tracks are supposed to get cleaned manually once every three weeks, but that almost never happens. (Phillip Stearns/Flickr)
Comptroller Scott Stringer's number crunchers have spent a year and a half contemplating the state of the city's subway system and have determined—drumroll please—that "the physical appearance of stations ... remains poor."
"Our auditors observed rats scurrying over the tracks and onto subway platforms, and it’s almost as if they were walking upright—waiting to take the train to their next meal," Stringer said in a statement. "This is a daily, stomach-turning insult to millions of straphangers, and it’s unworthy of a world-class city.”
Okay, so that isn't news. But in his audit (PDF) Stringer also takes a stab at identifying a cause for the peeling paint, rat colonies, and mounds of trash, one that's easier to address than the legacy of Robert Moses, decades of government neglect, mounting debt, and management by political insiders. According to the MTA's own guidelines, cleaning crews are supposed to visit each station once every three weeks and bag garbage lining trackbeds, but they don't always do it. In fact, 97 percent of stations received fewer cleaning visits than advised, and 88 percent got cleaning visits at less than half the recommended frequency. And when cleaning crews did show up at a given station, they didn't necessarily clean all the tracks.
Also, the two fancy vacuum trains bought back in 1997 and 2000 to suck up refuse from the trackbed are supposed to run seven days a week, but often don't because they're broken down. One was out of service for 311 days of the year audit period, and the other missed nearly half the year due to equipment failure. When they do run, because of their design, they are only able to clean a third of the track at a time. To make three passes would disrupt overnight train traffic, so the vacuum train drivers, when they're running, just do a single, one-third-of-the-track-clearing pass and call it good. And because of the potential for track damage from high-intensity vacuuming, the trains are always run on the Low setting. The result is that a once-over from a vacuum train can look as pathetic as this:
(Comptroller's Office)
Another set of photos shot in the Bleecker Street station appear to show the trash load actually get worse following a vacuum train visit.
(Comptroller's Office)
Still, something is better than nothing, and nothing is what some stations are getting. Twelve percent of 33 stations visited didn't have their tracks vacuumed at all from the summer of 2013 to the summer of 2014, the audit reports. In addition to providing feasts for our rat overlords, litter is fuel for track fires.
As for peeling paint, which about three quarters of all subway stations have, the transit agency has a goal of repainting stations once every seven years, but officials told auditors they abandoned that goal back in the '90s. Peeling paint is supposed to be used as a factor for prioritizing stations getting so-called Fast Track repairs, but often isn't, and when decaying stations do get the Fast Track treatment, repainting often isn't done, the investigators found.
In a response to the audit, the MTA agreed that there is a lot of work to be done as far as getting the system clean. Transit officials noted that the Authority is in the process of buying three new vacuum trains that can cover the whole track and are more reliable, at a cost of $23 million. The agency also said that it plans to be more systematic about deploying staff to pick up track litter by hand, and that painting during Fast Track work isn't always possible because it can conflict with track, signal, and electrical work. An MTA spokesman said the amount of trash in stations has actually "significantly improved" since 2008. God help us all.
The audit does not address big-picture problems such as funding the goddamn subway system, or what effect the MTA's counterintuitive pilot program of removing trash cans from stations is having on track litter.
http://gothamist.com/2015/05/14/subway_unclean.php
http://www.mta.info/news/2013/12/27/vacuum-trains-being-fixed-long-haul
That 168th street station is
ESPECIALLY the 1 line which is even deeper underground
While your average person complains about fare increases, service disruptions and service cuts, the fine folks in Albany stiff the MTA on critical funding year after year. It'd be nice if more people knew it wasn't as simple as the MTA just wanting more money for the hell of it, but it's not a simple topic
Oh and Albany ain't shyt
this is too easy. @DEAD7May I do the honors:
Gov gon Gov
i wont even ask you how
