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there are several stations that have nice mosaics and tiling and a few that are "old fashioned"
Do you live in the city?
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This is what building NYC's new subway stations looks like
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there are several stations that have nice mosaics and tiling and a few that are "old fashioned"
Do you live in the city?
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How Penn Station saved New York's architectural history
By Nick BryantBBC News, New York
The end of the first Penn Station pushed architectural preservationsts to act
Who killed Alberto Nisman?
In May, New York City's landmarks preservation agency blocked renovation changes to the Four Seasons restaurant in the modernist Seagram building. More than half-a-century ago, it was another the architectural upheaval that led to the creation of a powerful city landmarks law.
To descend into Penn Station in midtown New York is to visit an architectural crime scene.
A cramped, subterranean space, interred under Madison Square Garden, it has the look and lifeless feel of an over-sized subway station.
Not even two storeys tall, the concourse has a low-hung roof, held up by stumpy, inelegant columns and dotted with air conditioning ducts, fluorescent lights and security cameras enclosed in smoke-glass half-domes.
Penn Station now lives below Madison Square Garden, a sport and entertainment complex
Battleship grey, which presumably had a futuristic sheen when the station was constructed in 1969, is the dominant colour. It gives an already bland building even more of a deadening air.
In what should be one of the world's great rail terminuses, the locomotives themselves are hidden further underground. To board them means descending deeper into this miserable warren.
Outside of the US penitentiary system, it is hard to think of a more joyless building.
What makes the "new" Penn Station all the more depressing is the black and white pictures on its walls of the old Penn Station, demolished in 1963.
Penn Station, circa 1930
Wrecking balls were hurled at one of Manhattan's most noble buildings, a station which could boast a facade grander in scale that the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin and a concourse vaster than the nave of St Peter's in Rome.
Completed in 1910, and designed by the architectural firm McKim, Mead and White, it was inspired by the Baths of Caracalla from Roman antiquity, and shaped from the same stone as the Coliseum. Alas, a terminus designed to celebrate travel gave way to a transportation hub devised to process passengers.
Efficiency was the watchword. And remarkably, the building was destroyed with hardly any public outcry, save for the sorrowful cries of a small group of local architects.
The old Penn Station is torn down
In the ruins of the old Penn Station, however, are found the origins of the New York landmarks law.
Passed in 1965, the measure was intended to conserve the city's architectural heritage, a surprisingly radical idea in a decade with little respect for the past. This spring, the law has celebrated its golden jubilee.
Without the landmark law, some of New York's most-loved buildings would have disappeared from the urban landscape.
Mayor Robert Wagner signs the landmarks law in 1965
Much of SoHo's beautiful cast-iron district would have gone. Likewise, Tribeca and the Meatpacking district. In other words, the developers would have laid waste to what have recently become Manhattan's most desirable neighbourhoods.
Row upon row of Brooklyn's brownstones would also have been obliterated, so, too, Radio City Music Hall, the home of the famed Rockettes.
Still more felonious would have been the destruction of Grand Central Station, arguably the city's most breathtaking public space.
In 1968, Penn Central Railroad, the company that bulldozed Penn Station, announced plans for the redevelopment of Grand Central that could have led to the destruction of its facade and main waiting room.
The main concourse of Grand Central Station was saved from the same fate as Penn Station
Fortunately, the newly created New York Landmarks Preservation Commission, with the celebrity backing of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, stepped in. The railroad challenged the constitutionality of the landmark law in a test case that went all the way to the US Supreme Court in Washington, and the justices sided with the preservationists.
Fifty years on, the law protects 1,400 landmarks, 115 historic interiors, 109 historic districts and 10 scenic landmarks, including Central Park. Almost 30% of Manhattan's buildings are safeguarded.
They not only include heritage sites, like the RCA building lobby at the Rockefeller Center, but also modern architectural masterpieces, like Frank Lloyd Wright's Guggenheim Museum and the Lever Building on Park Avenue, one of New York's early curtain wall office towers.
The Stonewall Inn is protected because of its historical - not architectural - significance
Buildings of cultural significance, such as the Stonewall Inn in Greenwich Village, the birthplace of the modern gay rights movement, are also on the list.
More recently, the city's landmarks preservation commission used the law to reject changes to the Four Seasons restaurant inside the modernist Seagram building in Manhattan.
Not every noteworthy building was saved. The original Ziegfield Theatre, one of Manhattan's great art deco temples, was demolished in 1966 to make way for a nondescript 50-storey skyscraper.
The Singer Building in Lower Manhattan, briefly the world's tallest structure at the start of the last century, was also hauled down.
A stunning skyscraper, designed in the Beaux-Arts style, it would have been a great adornment to the modern skyline.
Nowadays the main aesthetic threat to New York comes not from what is being torn down, but rather what is being built.
Its heritage buildings will remain just that, a legacy to the landmark law and the visionary preservationists who stood in the way of mindless rush towards modernity.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32890011
By Nick BryantBBC News, New York
- 5 hours ago
- From the sectionMagazine
The end of the first Penn Station pushed architectural preservationsts to act
Who killed Alberto Nisman?
In May, New York City's landmarks preservation agency blocked renovation changes to the Four Seasons restaurant in the modernist Seagram building. More than half-a-century ago, it was another the architectural upheaval that led to the creation of a powerful city landmarks law.
To descend into Penn Station in midtown New York is to visit an architectural crime scene.
A cramped, subterranean space, interred under Madison Square Garden, it has the look and lifeless feel of an over-sized subway station.
Not even two storeys tall, the concourse has a low-hung roof, held up by stumpy, inelegant columns and dotted with air conditioning ducts, fluorescent lights and security cameras enclosed in smoke-glass half-domes.
Penn Station now lives below Madison Square Garden, a sport and entertainment complex
Battleship grey, which presumably had a futuristic sheen when the station was constructed in 1969, is the dominant colour. It gives an already bland building even more of a deadening air.
In what should be one of the world's great rail terminuses, the locomotives themselves are hidden further underground. To board them means descending deeper into this miserable warren.
Outside of the US penitentiary system, it is hard to think of a more joyless building.
What makes the "new" Penn Station all the more depressing is the black and white pictures on its walls of the old Penn Station, demolished in 1963.
Penn Station, circa 1930
Wrecking balls were hurled at one of Manhattan's most noble buildings, a station which could boast a facade grander in scale that the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin and a concourse vaster than the nave of St Peter's in Rome.
Completed in 1910, and designed by the architectural firm McKim, Mead and White, it was inspired by the Baths of Caracalla from Roman antiquity, and shaped from the same stone as the Coliseum. Alas, a terminus designed to celebrate travel gave way to a transportation hub devised to process passengers.
Efficiency was the watchword. And remarkably, the building was destroyed with hardly any public outcry, save for the sorrowful cries of a small group of local architects.
The old Penn Station is torn down
In the ruins of the old Penn Station, however, are found the origins of the New York landmarks law.
Passed in 1965, the measure was intended to conserve the city's architectural heritage, a surprisingly radical idea in a decade with little respect for the past. This spring, the law has celebrated its golden jubilee.
Without the landmark law, some of New York's most-loved buildings would have disappeared from the urban landscape.
Mayor Robert Wagner signs the landmarks law in 1965
Much of SoHo's beautiful cast-iron district would have gone. Likewise, Tribeca and the Meatpacking district. In other words, the developers would have laid waste to what have recently become Manhattan's most desirable neighbourhoods.
Row upon row of Brooklyn's brownstones would also have been obliterated, so, too, Radio City Music Hall, the home of the famed Rockettes.
Still more felonious would have been the destruction of Grand Central Station, arguably the city's most breathtaking public space.
In 1968, Penn Central Railroad, the company that bulldozed Penn Station, announced plans for the redevelopment of Grand Central that could have led to the destruction of its facade and main waiting room.
The main concourse of Grand Central Station was saved from the same fate as Penn Station
Fortunately, the newly created New York Landmarks Preservation Commission, with the celebrity backing of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, stepped in. The railroad challenged the constitutionality of the landmark law in a test case that went all the way to the US Supreme Court in Washington, and the justices sided with the preservationists.
Fifty years on, the law protects 1,400 landmarks, 115 historic interiors, 109 historic districts and 10 scenic landmarks, including Central Park. Almost 30% of Manhattan's buildings are safeguarded.
They not only include heritage sites, like the RCA building lobby at the Rockefeller Center, but also modern architectural masterpieces, like Frank Lloyd Wright's Guggenheim Museum and the Lever Building on Park Avenue, one of New York's early curtain wall office towers.
The Stonewall Inn is protected because of its historical - not architectural - significance
Buildings of cultural significance, such as the Stonewall Inn in Greenwich Village, the birthplace of the modern gay rights movement, are also on the list.
More recently, the city's landmarks preservation commission used the law to reject changes to the Four Seasons restaurant inside the modernist Seagram building in Manhattan.
Not every noteworthy building was saved. The original Ziegfield Theatre, one of Manhattan's great art deco temples, was demolished in 1966 to make way for a nondescript 50-storey skyscraper.
The Singer Building in Lower Manhattan, briefly the world's tallest structure at the start of the last century, was also hauled down.
A stunning skyscraper, designed in the Beaux-Arts style, it would have been a great adornment to the modern skyline.
Nowadays the main aesthetic threat to New York comes not from what is being torn down, but rather what is being built.
Its heritage buildings will remain just that, a legacy to the landmark law and the visionary preservationists who stood in the way of mindless rush towards modernity.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32890011
humble forever
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Penn station looks like it could compare, but nothing I've seen posted is on the level of the moscow stations I posted. To be frank, once you get inside almost all of those stops look the same. Like bland shyt.
I'm not trying to talk shyt on nyc cuz I think it's a great city. Boston's t stops are no better
I'm not trying to talk shyt on nyc cuz I think it's a great city. Boston's t stops are no better
2029.
Nah breh. A second east side train was necessary. Rush hour on the 456 is ridiculous.The subways are disgusting. Dirty, piss everywhere, rats - you name it.
And more Manhattan bullshyt getting renovations. Like BK dont need some too
CACarot
Where is Princess Fajita
So they going to have a few new modern looking actual clean nice looking stations to compliment the other 400 piss/sh1t/garbage hobo villages and rat cathedrals people call train stations. Those stops will be clean for about a year tops before you can catch scurvy waiting for the express.
NYC Households Pay An Extra $130/Month "Invisible Fare" To MTA, Report Finds
Will someone please give the trains money? (Via @CafeGhia's Twitter)
The MTA is still struggling to close their capital budget deficit of $14 billion, calling on both City and State governments to step up their spending to help maintain, repair and expand the subway network that serves as this city's life-sustaining circulatory system. But a new report commissioned by City Comptroller Scott Stringer's office claims the city contributes far more cash to the agency than previously thought—in fact, according to the report, the amount New Yorkers contribute in taxes is the equivalent of a so-called $130-per-month "invisible fare" for each household, and it's time for the state and federal governments to chip in more.
The city as a whole contributes about $10.11 billion to the MTA annually, according to the report, with $5.31 billion coming from the fares and tolls we pay, and $4.801 billion sourced from taxes and subsidies. The MTA, meanwhile, "only" spends $9.86 billion on riders: $6.808 billion of that goes to New York City Transit while the rest is distributed among bridge and tunnel upkeep, the Long Island Railroad, buses, Metro-North, the Staten Island railroad, and debt service.
This means the MTA actually spends less money on New Yorkers than New Yorkers spend on the MTA. The report also notes that the MTA made about $325 million more in revenue than in operating costs in 2014.
So what's up with all these budget constraints?
The MTA's 2015-2019 Capital Program proposed spending $15.5 billion on the subway aloneover the next five years, with plans to purchase new subway cars, replace track, and upgrade stations, among other improvements. But that $15.5 billion doesn't even cover completing the 2nd Avenue Subway, which may never be completely finished—and other mega projects that would considerably alleviate current commuter woes.
There's also the issue of the MTA's $34.1 billion debt, with the agency's heavy borrowing stretching all the way back to 1982. A fully funded Capital Program would permit the MTA to move forward with necessary repairs and projects without relying on further borrowing, according to the authority.
Governor Cuomo didn't seem to agree, calling the Capital Program "bloated" and thus far failing to provide the authority with the necessary funds. This has been an ongoing issue this year, and in order to alleviate what the MTA claims is a dire financial situation, earlier this month MTA Chairman Thomas Prendergast called on the city to help out by giving the authority $300 million annually. The de Blasio administration has agreed to give the MTA $125 million annually, up from $100 million.
Stringer's report, however, uses fares and tolls to suggest the city contributes far more than $100 million per year, a claim with which the MTA takes issue. "It is incredible that the Comptroller acknowledges in the very first paragraph of his report that 'the MTA needs more funding from every level of government,' but uses fuzzy math to justify letting the city off the hook for using some of its billions in future surpluses to pay its fair share for mass transit," the MTA said in a statement.
Stringer, who is also displeased with our dirty subway stations, might make it seem like the city's off the hook, but the report doesn't let the state or federal governments get away with underfunding the MTA. The report points out that the State only offered $603.5 million to the MTA in 2014, making up about 4 percent of its operating budget. The federal government, meanwhile, has pledged $6.8 billion to the 2015-2019 Capital Plan, an amount Stringer says is $1.6 to $4.6 billion too little to keep the agency afloat.
"As a critical engine of our regional economy, the MTA deserves support from every level of government," Stringer said in a statement. "But any conversation about how to fill the MTA’s budget gap must acknowledge that the City already contributes more to the MTA than it gets back in services, and that Albany must step up to the plate with greater support.”
Straphangers Campaign president Gene Russianoff seems to agree with Stringer's assessment that the state needs to step up to the plate:
The Straphangers Campaign agrees with the central finding of New York City Comptroller Scott Stringer’s just-released report on MTA funding, “The Invisible Fare.” He concludes that “despite the State’s sole governing authority and the tremendous MTA-related economic benefits that are spread across New York, the State’s contribution to the operating budget is” inadequate. We hope that the report can help revive progress on getting the MTA and its millions of riders a fully funded, five-year capital program.You can peruse the whole report here [pdf], and be sure to tell your state representatives andGovernor Cuomo to stop robbing the MTA of badly needed funding and figure out a way to come up with more cash for a 21st Century subway system.
http://gothamist.com/2015/05/27/mta_invisible_fare.php
lol
While your average person complains about fare increases, service disruptions and service cuts, the fine folks in Albany stiff the MTA on critical funding year after year. It'd be nice if more people knew it wasn't as simple as the MTA just wanting more money for the hell of it, but it's not a simple topic
Oh and Albany ain't shyt
ADevilYouKhow
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While your average person complains about fare increases, service disruptions and service cuts, the fine folks in Albany stiff the MTA on critical funding year after year. It'd be nice if more people knew it wasn't as simple as the MTA just wanting more money for the hell of it, but it's not a simple topic
Oh and Albany ain't shyt
Funny thing is you should see what Albany looks like
Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
Actually the new South Ferry station was nice and clean before it got destroyed by Sandy. It was open from 2009 to fall 2012 when the storm hit.
And to the breh who said BK need subway renovations, two stations, one in Brownsville and one in East New York on the 3 line, is getting renovated right now.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
you sound like a hater, brah
no disrespect
I live here and I'm not that torn up about it
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Human Flesh-Craving Squirrels Are Attacking MTA Workers
(jurra8/Shutterstock)
Earlier this month, a squirrel in the Bronx bit an MTA worker's finger, sending her to the hospital. Now, it appears squirrels have developed a taste for salty, delectable people flesh—asecond MTA worker has been attacked by a squirrel, this time in the train car of a Coney Island-bound Q train. It's unclear whether the same squirrel was coming back for seconds, or if the city's squirrel population has teamed up with the coyotes to rid the city of all non-littering humans.
This week's squirrel-sourced aggression occurred at around 9:20 a.m. on Thursday, near the Cortelyou Road Q station. The Post reports that the squirrel ran through the Q train's window before setting its sights on the train operator. Luckily, passengers were able to help her shoo the squirrel out, though it's probably since burrowed a home for itself in Flatbush, biding its time until another unsuspecting human sticks a finger near it. The extent of the train operator's injuries are unknown.
The squirrels are coming.
http://gothamist.com/2015/05/29/human_flesh-craving_squirrels_are_a.php
be careful @radio rahiem
some good info in here
nice find 