This is the New Consensus Top 5 All Time.

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

You guys are going to collectively lose your shyt when the next generation starts writing these lists and Travis Scott, Playboi Carti and a bunch of guys you’ve never heard of start supplanting your “consensus” picks on these lists you already get so upset about.

those guys been out for 15ish years and didn't make one list. you don't just go from aint ish to top 5 just because the crowd changes
especially when they got cole and kenny in the same time period.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

I just opened up my YouTube and I got at least 3 channels with some new Tupac content today. I don’t even wanna hear someone say Pac ain’t on the Rushmore

 

[Kenzo Ten]

This isn't a new consensus, it's been like this for at least 7 years.

Jay, Nas, Kendrick, Em, Kanye.

 

[iliketurtles]

This isn't a new consensus, it's been like this for at least 7 years.

Jay, Nas, Kendrick, Em, Kanye.

U listened to rap in 2010 if kbot is in ur top 10. Top 1000 reasonable

 

[Chip Skylark]

Nobody in real life gives a damn if an album is critically acclaimed.

White rap fans

That’s why pitchfork and fantono is so important to them

 

[Kenzo Ten]

U listened to rap in 2010 if kbot is in ur top 10. Top 1000 reasonable

Don't worry about me, I been listening to rap for 40 years.
He has the best discogaphy in rap, objectively, his spot is solidified.

Drake on the other hand, doesn't even make a top 1000 list.

 

[iliketurtles]

White rap fans

@Nuuko @Not Crodie

 

[iliketurtles]

Don't worry about me, I been listening to rap for 40 years.
He has the best discogaphy in rap, objectively, his spot is solidified.

Drake on the other hand, doesn't even make a top 1000 list.

He sounds like mickey mouse. Drake has 7 classics right now

 

[tweezy]

Em is def top 5, but pac and big ain't anymore.

Jay Z
Nas
Kendrick Lamar
Ghostface
Rakim

 

[Kenzo Ten]

He sounds like mickey mouse. Drake has 7 classics right now

Drake doesn't even have a good album from a pure objective standpoint.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

I just opened up my YouTube and I got at least 3 channels with some new Tupac content today. I don’t even wanna hear someone say Pac ain’t on the Rushmore

top rap album in 24/25 basically had a pac remix song
pac is the 1

 

[Revolutionary]

Nobody in real life gives a damn if an album is critically acclaimed.

This is actually how RD became a classic though, Jay tried to have influence on publications to revist their review of RD, and it worked lmao

Critical acclaim has always played a role.

 

[iliketurtles]

Drake doesn't even have a good album from a pure objective standpoint.

He has 8 classics

 

[Mike Wins]

Nah...he never had great reviews. You can check by yourself, he doesn't have a single album with critical acclaim (in comparison, all of kendrick albums have earned universal acclaim status, meaning they all have higher score than 81/100 on metacritic, with 2 of them being the 2 highest rated rap albums by critics ever). The fact that Eminem albums got panned by critics was actually a discussion among Em fans, they were saying the critics were against him.

As for his grammy awards, thats cool, I agree that 15 grammy is a lot...but...

You decided Metacritic the be all end all because it suit your argument, but it don't capture anywhere close to all the published reviews. And MMLP for example got plenty strong reviews and year end list placements, we not gonna pretend that album got weak reviews.

Critical acclaim ain't objective anyway. It's literally the opinion of (mostly white) critics and most of them come from a perspective outside hip hop culture. Industry awards ain't objective either. It's political, biased as fukk and opinion based with, again, a heavily white and non hip hop slant.

Eminem has won the Grammy for Best Rap Album more times than anyone else. Facts. You dismissive of that now but it will be a big deal if Kendrick ties or passes him, right? And Em easily the highest selling rapper of all time, but sales only matter when they in your favor. So none of this is really objective. There ain't an objective measure of the quality of music.

This is a hip hop board. If we can't formulate and articulate our own opinions what we even doing here?

 

[iliketurtles]

He's a cac