this dude argues that MCU films are no different than T2

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T2 made more money but the movie theater business in 1987 wasn't the same as in 1991; Predator's gross in 1987 was enough for it to make the top 10 in highest grossing movies while in 1991 it would've barely been enough to crack the top 20 highest grossing films.

Also the release model for those two films were entirely different. Predator was a surprise hit while T2 was a summer blockbuster sequel that opened on 4th of July weekend in twice as many theaters as Predator did on a random weekend in early June.

If McTiernan woulda made Predator 2 with Arnold, based off the strength of what Predator made, I wouldn't have been surprised if it made more than T2. I still fukk with Predator 2 tho.

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Not saying someone would argue one is better. But it’s possible for someone to prefer this shyt over that. And that’s the context shyt I’m talking about. Not everything is about being right or wrong. Some shyt just is. I can get into a real nerdy discussion about rap and hit the same points you did about it evolving and how that evolution stopped in 99 or 2000. But that doesn’t mean the shyt from that time will appeal to someone born in 2008 or 2010. And that’s the part often left out of these discussions.

i agree with that.. you can't help what someone "prefers" at all. Someone may prefer to eat canned pasta everyday. Most of the world would rather eat at a fine italian restaurant but some do not care about that.
 

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T2 made more money but the movie theater business in 1987 wasn't the same as in 1991; Predator's gross in 1987 was enough for it to make the top 10 in highest grossing movies while in 1991 it would've barely been enough to crack the top 20 highest grossing films.

Also the release model for those two films were entirely different. Predator was a surprise hit while T2 was a summer blockbuster sequel that opened on 4th of July weekend in twice as many theaters as Predator did on a random weekend in early June.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "it came and went" but I don't remember
a lot of fanfare. And nothing compared to T2.
 

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Predator is one of my favorites. It's record is impeccable. It's not to be fukked with. Terminator 2 is universally beloved but I think The Terminator is better. Still tho, they both great. Iont know if there's any MCU movies that surpass Predator. There's a few that are on par but Predator and T2 are rated R action movies. It's not the same sport compared to MCU PG-13 summer blockbusters.
Robocop too nikka, all the same people made these flicks.
 

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I can see it with predator.

But besides infinity war, nothing touches T2. shyt makes you :ohhh: to this day.

That scene where arnie goes in the fire burns the soul.
 

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People who didn't live through that period underestimate the impact of T2.

That era was pretty much MJ, MJ and Arnie.

Them toys especially. The T-1000 that blew up when you pressed the button :ohlawd:

That was despite it being an adult rated movie.
 

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People who didn't live through that period underestimate the impact of T2.

That era was pretty much MJ, MJ and Arnie.

Them toys especially. The T-1000 that blew up when you pressed the button :ohlawd:

That was despite it being an adult rated movie.
that's what I loved about the 80's/90's....had these clearly adult franchises cater to kids with toys....terminator, predator, rambo, robocop, alien...then halloween costumers for freddy, jason, mike, leather face, etc
 

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You serious?:wtf: Predator is regarded as the GOAT of its genre by plenty
What genre is that action movies? It really isn't.
Is it better than T2?
T1?
Any Indiana Jones movie?
Die Hard?
Die Hard 2?
The Matrix?
Mad Max?
The Dark Knight?
The Batman?
The Raid movies?

I'll stop there. And I like the Predator it's a fun watch but it really isn't seminal in any way.
 
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