This current Orton run has to be one of worst big time Vet runs in years.

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Been coasting off look and his name his whole career. He got that basic ass CAW look Vince and them like with some tattoos. I'm wondering what Bruce and them seen in OVW when he said on his podcast that out of that class with Orton, Brock, Batista that Orton was the one they thought would be the biggest star :mjlol:. Outside of his Undertaker feud way back when and when he was heel with Rey I never cared for dude. He stopped caring a long time ago and yet Vince still puts dude in these main event spots . That privilege must be nice. :francis:
 

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orton is done. too old to be the effortlessly smooth in the ring as he once was. never had much of a personality so he cant cost on that like cena,show,henry,kane,goldust,and truth or any other vets currently still working. hel still go down as top 20 of all time but one more injury and its over
orton top 20?
i don't know if he's top 20 i've watched in my lifetime.
in no order

Flair
Hogan
Austin
Taker
Rock
Sting
HBK
Bret
Cena
Bryan
HHH
Mick
AJ
Eddie
Booker
Macho
Y2J
Benoit
Brock
Punk
Angle
Edge
RVD
Kane
Goldberg
DDP
Steiner

were all more entertaining to me than KKKlandy. that's not even counting Japan / the legends I wasn't old enough to watch.

shyt, if I watched TNA i mightve put Joe and Lethal in there too. only left Henry out because the HoP run was so short. i might've even enjoyed shane douglas and raven more.

his position/hype/respect in the E are solid, but when you actually start naming guys who just entertained on the mic and/or in the ring, he ain't it.

edit: shyt, forgot Hall, Nash, Rey, etc. yeah, it's a no for me on Randy
 
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^ Possibly the last good thing I can remember him doing. Unless you give him credit for Brock busting his head open.


That was all rollins making and carrying him for a mania moments workrate wise.


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I swear dude's last good match was against Bryan in like December 2013 in that Raw bout.


The one that predated the double belt feud where bryan carried that bum.
He was good in that whole period and in the ramp up of Sheamus that the wwe fukked up, too.

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I'm not dabbling tin this bullshyt woulda coulda debate. I don't give a fukk if it's Orton and AJ Styles. If you gonna go out there and do jack shyt. I'm gonna call you out for it and he has been doing for approximately 3-4 years. He hasn't put on a great match in a long fukking time. His only good match this year was against fukking Harper. His TV match with AJ Styles had excessive amounts of rest holds to burn TV time. It's fukking coasting. So, fukk all this character booking bullshyt that Orton been dealt with over the past 5 years. This dude is a solid 15+ year vet that can work great matches and it doesn't show in between the ropes. He doesn't need to do flippy indie shyt. He just need to have good matches in his style. His psychology has been lackadaisical and going through the motion at best when he doesn't care. He's been breaking character and committing some lazy botches in the ring. His moveset gets more limited by the year. He hasn't develop a new wrinkle or attempted to reinvent himself in the ring. We can blame WWE the hand that he has been dealt, but the same time... He needs to go out there and live up to his credentials and wrestle like the perennial 4**** talent that he is. I'm just disappoint in how badly Orton regressed when I wanted him to reach that classic match era that Cena got to in 2011. I want good wrestling. He hasn't been doing that in a long time and this year... He has been unacceptable, and he has been the top main event program for an unbearable 6 months. He brought nothing to table. No memorable promos. Took part in three of the worst matches of his career frankly. shyt needs to be called out... Orton has been having a terrible 2017 after a very disappointing 2015-16.

And I don't even care for indie guys.
I remember circa 2007/8 Marks SWORE Orton >> Cena in every aspect :mjlol:, I legit don't know if Orton has been better than Cena a day in his life
 

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Not at all, TSC hates him for being a Trump supporting CAC, while the forum revolves around the company that were literally the biggest Trump donors at 6 mil.

His latest run has gone on for about a year. From what I remember hes basically done 3 things:

Lesnar match/feud, decent Summerslam main event and buildup

Jinder feud, where he's helped make a former job guy, probably requested to do so

And Wyatt program, which started OK and ended up being trash.

That's not a bad run imo.

I know few former 10x+ world champs would give as much to a former jobber in his 1st main event program as Ortons giving Jinder right now.
 
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