They're on Burna Boy's head for "appropriating" black American dances and gear

[Blessings]

You nikkas love to gaslight. AA never gave a shyt about ya’ll so why would we hate? You absorb our culture and the way we speak and dress. You nikkas give off jealous little brother syndrome.

Recognizing our own culture and contributions is hating now?

You new nikkas different…

You sound angry and misinformed It's weird how y'all took it personal

Nobody is gaslighting you. We simply called out the misinformation from the original tweets. Burna never said African Americans do not have culture.

All he does is pay homage



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Pan-Africanism, family and the Wu: The gospel of Burna Boy

He's the first African artist to sell out an American stadium. Now, with a new album steeped in hip-hop, Burna Boy has his sights set on something even bigger.

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As a child, Burna Boy idolized the Wu-Tang Clan; on his forthcoming album, he leans into their shared love for all things Shaolin while bringing founding members GZA and RZA into the fray. RZA recites the 12 Jewels of Islam on “Jewels,” instructing Burna and listeners of the essential elements one must strive for to reach a fulfilling life.

 

[Uchiha God]

How did that work for IloveMakonnen, Quintin Miller, Fetty Wap, Partynextdoor, Tinashe etc when Drake hopped on their tracks?? Are they big stars today or do the clubs only play drake's part on their tracks when they come on??

How did that work for Desiigner when Kanye jumped on Panda??

That "exposure" shyt is played out and DOESNT ACTUALLY EVEN HELP THE ARTIST IN THE LONG RUN. They just get their shyt taken and now everyone associates the song with the bigger artist

What does any of this have anything to do with Burna? If the artist that made the song pursues him for a feature and agrees to let Burna put it on his album, is Burna supposed to say "no, I'm not gon give you a feature because it's bad for you long-term!" are you nikkas retarded?

The onus is on the dude that made the song to look out for his best interests - again, it's his song so he should weigh the pros and cons; exposure and associated revenue (royalties) VS your song being associated with someone else.

Use your fukking braincells for a moment before getting on here babbling. Talking to guys sometimes feels like being on the shortbus

"I heard he jacked that Talibans song from the original artist and put it on his own album"

 

[Bonk]

@africngiant We neither want nor need his sympathy. Not a single African would appreciate one of us going over there, biting they whole repertoire, and then preaching to them how much they need us. It sounds crazy and dont make a lick of sense.

Any old random from the Continent, tho never having read a single book dedicated to our history, thinks he's a fukking subject matter expert on wtf we need to be doing. STFU, be polite, get your coin, and go make Africa great. Tf?

@ the excerpt in bold: that isn't entirely true. I don't want to sound like a broken record but I think your opinion of how all Africans feel is based on a few Africans (who are a tiny fraction of Africans) you have interacted with online or met in person. Say you were to visit a country like Ghana for example, your perspective will change. Granted there might be push back if it were to do with politics & the 'hate China & Russia' rhetoric cos they're America's enemies. And that's understable cos the US is up there with UK & France when it comes to imperialism in Africa. However, if it has to do with culture - people will embrace you & be flattered.


As someone of direct Yoruba descent - I'll cite Yoruba tradition/religion as an example. Currently, there's a renaissance about Yoruba religion amongst people of direct Yoruba descent globally. The renaissance wasn't influenced by Yorubas in Nigeria - it was influenced by Brazilians, Cubans & people in the Americas. Watching black people in diaspora embrace a religion that Yorubas rejected, (cos Christianity & Islam told them it's evil) modernise it & turn it into one of the biggest religions in the world has made it more appealing to a lot of Yorubas. And a lot of Yorubas are now going back to that religion. I watched a documentary called, 'Bigger than Africa', about the religion in the Americas (some Yoruba village in the US was also featured) on Netflix & I shed a tear whilst watching it cos there's an elderly Trini woman in the documentary who sang a couple of songs that her forebears used to sing & that have been passed from generation to generation. Interestingly, I also know the two songs cos I grew up singing them in Church in London. All my life, I thought these songs were Christian songs but I didn't know they were ancestral Yoruba songs dedicated to Yoruba gods & were later co-opted into Christianity. So, hearing a Trini woman whose ancestors left the shores of Africa hundreds of years before Christianity got to Nigeria made me start looking more into how Europeans made Christianity attractive to my ancestors. Then I discovered that they lifted a lot of tradition beliefs they met there, including traditional songs & co-opted them into Christianity (Islam also did the same thing).

In essence, the point I'm getting at, is that: most Africans don't care too tough if you bite African culture as an AA. Conversely, most people would view it as paying homage. Culture is dynamic & if you can contribute to make it more attractive - people will embrace you.

Anyway, I don't think Burnaboy meant any harm. I believe he just started touring the US 4-5 years ago & he made the comment around the same time (I'm going by the BET acceptance speech he & his mum made). So, he's probably overwhelmed by all the love he was getting & like a kid in a candyshop - he didn't read the room before he started his Pan-African gospel without being cognisant of the current fault lines. I'm pretty sure he has learnt his lessons. And I also think a lot of people are projecting what others have said in the past on him.

 

[Swahili P'Bitek]

At his level he should be bringing those galala ghetto nigerian dancehall dances that got him famous in the continent to the world stage. We miss dancehall burna. And by dancehall, I mean real dancehall not the version we have today.

 

[ShadowBroker]

I didn't read most of it but the top half is simply false. Maybe you just don't understand what you are trying to say but it's coming off like Burna where he trying to say one thing but it's coming off all wrong which is where I agree with Ados.

If you didn’t read most of it then that’s your problem.

 

[Braman]

Oh and another thing…

You know the ADOS division is deeply rooted in self hate and insecurity bc it overwhelmingly focuses on Africans.

So Burna boy is appropriating black culture but you was a church mouse for decades— and to this day—- with Biggie, Busta, Tony Yayo, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, shyt Doug E Fresh, I could go on forever. Hell even fukin Fat Joe

Oh but now you got a problem. Please.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

@africngiant We neither want nor need his sympathy. Not a single African would appreciate one of us going over there, biting they whole repertoire, and then preaching to them how much they need us. It sounds crazy and dont make a lick of sense.

Any old random from the Continent, tho never having read a single book dedicated to our history, thinks he's a fukking subject matter expert on wtf we need to be doing. STFU, be polite, get your coin, and go make Africa great. Tf?



I think I can explain. Back when we were copacetic, there weren't a lot of Africans here. Just like every other immigrant group, when yall first arrive, you're very polite. It's not until yall get your numbers up that boundaries start getting crossed, like telling us how to manage our politics (the same politics that got yall here, btw). Meanwhile, yall couldn't politick good enough to get out from under the West.

And this is not to shyt on you, yall had world powers arrayed against you. But it is to say: handle home first before you start sticking your nose in other ppls business. You left your house bc it was on fire and you couldnt put it out, but gon come over here and lecture us on fire safety. Its ridiculous.

The palpable and pulsating ignorance is off the charts. Geez man

 

[perfectblack999]

Top 5 waste of Coli posters' energy. Go get your certs up, do some community service...shoot, go have sex. The lack of productivity makes my head hurt

 

[ShadowBroker]

If you didn’t read most of it then that’s your problem.

I’m aware of the Islamic influence that spread literacy throughout primarily Northern Africa. It didn’t go as far south as it should’ve. Because of colonialism and a lot of dependence of visual and oral geneology a lot isn’t there to give ADOS any indication of where they came from prior to the slave ships. The trail stops cold. The Africans that sold slaves apparently didn’t even bother to take a proper accounting so all thee is is some bullshyt like 23andMe that gives you a tribe you’re most likely related to.

@#1 pick

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

These major artists only hop on the hottest songs by up and coming artists in order to stay relevant

Yes that's the only accurate thing you said. The rest of that stuff about their songs now being identified with the major artist and all that wasn't true. Again most of those guys couldn't make other hits. Migos had more juice after Versace. It's not on Drake or any other major artist that those other people don't continue to generate the same quality output. And Quentin miller was in the background don't know why he was mentioned there. We literally watched people pretend they didn't understand why he was a writer. Nobody held him back nobody Black balled him. He was not a good artist just a good with the pen, we saw that when he got the light and put his voice behind his own lyrics. He exposed his meal ticket and didn't get much more work as a writer after so who's he to blame?

You putting the onus on the wrong people. Majority of artists do not have long careers. To even have a major hit is a major accomplishment. Desiigner was given studio time and budgets with Mike Dean and made a whole forgettable album. He's since been in the studio with swizz and made singles that went nowhere. You still blaming Kanye? That's weird

 

[8WON6]

Oh and another thing…

You know the ADOS division is deeply rooted in self hate and insecurity bc it overwhelmingly focuses on Africans.

So Burna boy is appropriating black culture but you was a church mouse for decades— and to this day—- with Biggie, Busta, Tony Yayo, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, shyt Doug E Fresh, I could go on forever. Hell even fukin Fat Joe

Oh but now you got a problem. Please.

some of these other people never said anything about FBA like that "they have no cultural base" statement (i'm not arguing the semantics of it). But people are definitely on Busta Rhymes neck about claiming hiphop started in Jamaica.

 

[ShadowBroker]

double post

 

[#1 pick]

I’m aware of the Islamic influence that spread literacy throughout primarily Northern Africa. It didn’t go as far south as it should’ve. Because of colonialism and a lot of dependence of visual and oral geneology a lot isn’t there to give ADOS any indication of where they came from prior to the slave ships. The trail stops cold. The Africans that sold slaves apparently didn’t even bother to take a proper accounting so all thee is is some bullshyt like 23andMe that gives you a tribe you’re most likely related to.

@#1 pick

Ya'll do realize British colonial based Africans were paying taxes to the British for over 300 years. They fought in the wars for the British. Before you say Africans did this or that. Everything was tracked and it was by the British who ran that shyt with a tight ship. For nikkas who love to get on Africans for naivety, the favor is returned 10 fold it seems.

I keep saying, interfighting is stupid and if you both knew what the fukk the other is going through, you would realize you are wearing the same damn shoes.

 

[Bonk]

I’m aware of the Islamic influence that spread literacy throughout primarily Northern Africa. It didn’t go as far south as it should’ve. Because of colonialism and a lot of dependence of visual and oral geneology a lot isn’t there to give ADOS any indication of where they came from prior to the slave ships. The trail stops cold. The Africans that sold slaves apparently didn’t even bother to take a proper accounting so all thee is is some bullshyt like 23andMe that gives you a tribe you’re most likely related to.

@#1 pick

Islam not penetrating deeper into the coast of West Africa had nothing to do with colonialisation.

Islam got to West Africa after the conquest of North Africa by Arab Muslims & the creation of Almoravid dynasty in the 11th. And the subsequent creation of Mali & Songhay empires expanded the religion. But there were animist kingdoms & empires who didn’t want anything to do with the religion. They fought wars & won (it’s in the Timbuktu manuscript). Europeans got to the shores of West Africa in the 15th century & didn’t have proper relations with West Africans on the coast until the 16th century. And colonialisation started in the late 19th century after the Berlin conference in 1885.

Also, the historical Islam in West Africa was Sufi Islam which isn’t as radical as the Sunni Islam that came later with Fulanis & their jihad in the 19th century. And Fulanis were also defeated by a lot of West African ethnic groups apart from the Hausas who embraced Sunni Islam cos they were already revolting against their leaders. The Fulani suppression of the Hausas who have a large population across a lot of countries in West Africa & the subsequent empowerment of Fulani hegemony by the Europeans is the reason why Sunni Islam got so big in West Africa.

So, in essence, colonisation actually helped the spread of Islam while also spreading Christianity to places Islam couldn’t get to hence there’s a North (Muslims) & South (Christians) divide in a lot of countries in West Africa.

Also, a lot of West African ethnic groups didn’t write cos there was no need to. They developed much more complex & advanced civilisations than writing tbh. If they wanted to write - most had contacts with Malian & Songhai via trading & they would have learned from them. They built empires, kingdoms & advanced societies without writing. Heck, a lot of the Sephardic Jews who were expelled from everywhere settled in West Africa & I’m pretty sure they were able to read & write since they carried their Torah everywhere. Yet they couldn’t influence the people to write. Yes, in hindsight, writing seems pretty cool but to those people back then they were literate in their own ways & were solving complex math, physics & chemistry, etc. without writing.

 

[ShadowBroker]

Ya'll do realize British colonial based Africans were paying taxes to the British for over 300 years. They fought in the wars for the British. Before you say Africans did this or that. Everything was tracked and it was by the British who ran that shyt with a tight ship. For nikkas who love to get on Africans for naivety, the favor is returned 10 fold it seems.

I keep saying, interfighting is stupid and if you both knew what the fukk the other is going through, you would realize you are wearing the same damn shoes.

That’s exactly the point I was making. So the notion that ADOS has no roots needs to fukking stop.

Secondly, are you saying what I’m saying that foreign entities created/kept the records NOT the Africans. Which goes right back to what I said. Africans DID NOT keep specific family genology. Only for chieftans, special historic events like a comet, wars, scientific manuscripts in Aribic from Timbuktu but NOT individual lineage.

That is why ADOS can’t trace their specific familial heritage to one family in Africa, Most Africand didn’t keep nor create manuscript of their line.

How is it that the top 10 verifiable oldest family lines, only one is African and it’s Ethiopian? The House of Solomon Ethiopia. Africans were on this planet alone for a long time and there is no historical record going as far back as Confucius line which is like 5000 years old. In China the random fisherman from hundreds of years ago has a written document of his family tree.