they say Lupe is to Preachy. But i have never said Chuck D...

[Loose]

Hold up nikka.....we gon act like self righteous nikkas don't call other rappers too materialistic all day,and get mad cuz they don't rap about nuthin important,rappers don't get hate for makin simp music? That's an actual REAL complaint people have of rappers in real life....in general nikkas just don't give a shyt about Lupes music outside of his fanbase....other rappers deal with criticism all the time from people who ain't even fans but truly hate everything they stand for.....and I bet a lot of those self righteous nikkas jut so happen to make up Lupes fanbase.....simp and materialistic rappers experience real hate for bein the materialistic and simping dudes they are....Lupe mostly gets indifference and his fans whine about it,that's what the real problem is here....then pass it off as nikkas don't like lyricism and are too dumb to comprehend meanwhile Nas album got a good reception from these same listeners who typically don't listen to lyrical rappers.....Lupe simply don't make good enuff music for people to want to hear what he got to say lol.


The problem ain't with listeners its with these lyrical rappers LIKE lupe who don't make good songs....if the song is good people will like it,tell these lyricist to step they song making game up....I admit they have a harder road to travel its not easy to make a great songs that mean sumthin but it can be done and will be done again....I don't kno what u nikkas want,accuse the masses of bein dumb....acknowledge Lupe doesn't make music for the masses,then get mad cuz the masses don't praise em.....show me where masses are hating on dude the same way masses hate on the idea of gangsta rap,materialistic rap,simp rap,crunk rappers.


Lupe have shytted on at least 15 rappers collectively in this thread for how they music sounds and what it stands for,shytted on entire fanbases and then wanna get mad cuz a few nikkas called Lupe preachy,or bcuz they indifferent to his musicfuk outta here

This is just a terrible post i dont even have time to respond to this versa handle this

 

[rapbeats]

Hold up nikka.....we gon act like self righteous nikkas don't call other rappers too materialistic all day,and get mad cuz they don't rap about nuthin important,rappers don't get hate for makin simp music? That's an actual REAL complaint people have of rappers in real life....in general nikkas just don't give a shyt about Lupes music outside of his fanbase....other rappers deal with criticism all the time from people who ain't even fans but truly hate everything they stand for.....and I bet a lot of those self righteous nikkas jut so happen to make up Lupes fanbase.....simp and materialistic rappers experience real hate for bein the materialistic and simping dudes they are....Lupe mostly gets indifference and his fans whine about it,that's what the real problem is here....then pass it off as nikkas don't like lyricism and are too dumb to comprehend meanwhile Nas album got a good reception from these same listeners who typically don't listen to lyrical rappers.....Lupe simply don't make good enuff music for people to want to hear what he got to say lol.


The problem ain't with listeners its with these lyrical rappers LIKE lupe who don't make good songs....if the song is good people will like it,tell these lyricist to step they song making game up....I admit they have a harder road to travel its not easy to make a great songs that mean sumthin but it can be done and will be done again....I don't kno what u nikkas want,accuse the masses of bein dumb....acknowledge Lupe doesn't make music for the masses,then get mad cuz the masses don't praise em.....show me where masses are hating on dude the same way masses hate on the idea of gangsta rap,materialistic rap,simp rap,crunk rappers.


Lupe have shytted on at least 15 rappers collectively in this thread for how they music sounds and what it stands for,shytted on entire fanbases and then wanna get mad cuz a few nikkas called Lupe preachy,or bcuz they indifferent to his musicfuk outta here

bruh you just proved my point. THEY MAD. but dont hide it under the "he's too preachy" nawww. you mad he clowned you're favorite rapper, you're mad what he's saying about the listener is actually talking about YOU.

but how stupid can you be to listen to rick ross clown you for being BROKE and how he'll take your girl cause you broke which therefore makes you a lame. then realize you are giving rick your $10.00 for his album while he laughs at you on the way to the bank.
ATLEAST if you're mad at lupe for calling you out like that. atleast you can say to self my $10.00 for a lupe CD is for Self betterment. he's not just clowning me to make me look stupid. he wants to make me less ignorant. so the next album when he PREACHES about this same stuff i will no longer be offended since i no longer fal into that category. but every rick ross album you're going to be broker then him 9 times outta 10. lol

 

[daze23]

This is just a terrible post i dont even have time to respond to this versa handle this

it's true though. for years cat's were on that "fukk all them haters, we makin money" shyt. as someone that tried/tries to promote positive/conscious music, I know about it very well. I suspect if I did some digging, I would find some of those people are now Lupe fans. I mean yeah, more power to them for changing. but it seems more likely they were just riding various bandwagons all along

 

[Still Benefited]

bruh you just proved my point. THEY MAD. but dont hide it under the "he's too preachy" nawww. you mad he clowned you're favorite rapper, you're mad what he's saying about the listener is actually talking about YOU.

but how stupid can you be to listen to rick ross clown you for being BROKE and how he'll take your girl cause you broke which therefore makes you a lame. then realize you are giving rick your $10.00 for his album while he laughs at you on the way to the bank.
ATLEAST if you're mad at lupe for calling you out like that. atleast you can say to self my $10.00 for a lupe CD is for Self betterment. he's not just clowning me to make me look stupid. he wants to make me less ignorant. so the next album when he PREACHES about this same stuff i will no longer be offended since i no longer fal into that category. but every rick ross album you're going to be broker then him 9 times outta 10. lol

I said the exact same thing in my last post that dudes callin him preachy are just mad cuz he's callin out they mindsets and lifestyle,I gave a damn analogy and everything...musta went over yalls heads

In my last post I'm Directly addressing the fact that just like people who call Lupe preachy have a underlying reason for callin him that.....Lupe fans have a underlying reason for calling everybody who doesn't like his music dumb basically,the masses just to dumb to realize he's as great as fukin ICE CUBE and Chuck D.....Ice Cube dropped Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It and its a classic track nikka,ya boy just don't make records that hit like that....I told you I listen for the lyrical display but overall his songs just ain't that damn good....and u really implying nikkas should buy a Lupe album to change they life?....its clear now y'all overate the impact his level of music could have...why not just tell these young nikkas to buy the higher quality Cube and Chuck D albums if u lookin to give nikkas the best value for they money and save souls? Oh cuz u want us all to be Lupe fans too,we see your angle nikka

 

[Wild self]

the only reason you give credit for the hooks and the guys mentioned from the past. is because they already been there done that and blown up and made hits that you've listened to later.

what i'm telling yall is this. because yall are now TRAINED to listen for "a generic hook" and a "generic Popish southern beat" anything outside of that is AUTO trash or at minimum NO REPLAY VALUE.

the wack music is killing yalls ears and yall dont even know it. i told yall this would happen years ago. everyone called me crazy. here we are.

put it this way. when was the last time you heard a HIT record, that everyone considered a hit record. that didnt have the buzz words, Drank, club, chicks, cars, clothes, herb, somewhere in the hook or at minimum in the bridge before the hook?

when was the last time you heard a beat that became a hit track that didnt have a southern drum loop, or a 808 drum kit, or that popish sound to it?

you havent.

songs like "THE MESSAGE" are no longer available to the masses unless yall luck up and find it on the net somewhere or you personally know a friend who's making that kind of music. The idea of a HIT is so formulaic now. The artists dont know how to make hits without using the formula i just mentioned above. listen to that new slaughter house. you can see those REACHING for a hit, songs from a mile away. it didnt use to be like that. before guys would go in the studio and make songs. get lucky and come out with 4 hits for the album. 2 club bangers and 2 anthems or maybe 1 anthem and one grimey trunk rattler. they didnt have to use buzz words, they didnt have to say "get ya hands up" to make it a party song, they didnt have to say "we in da club" to make it a club song. and the beat didnt have to sound like the last guys hit record.
everyone had their own sound and made their own hits. people's hit records did not sound alike when we're talking top tier commercially successful hiphop.

example
The Pharcyde - Passin' Me By
The Pharcyde - Passin' Me By - YouTube

WRECKX-N-EFFECT - RUMPSHAKER
WRECKX-N-EFFECT - RUMPSHAKER - YouTube

Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg - Nuthin' But A G Thang
Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg - Nuthin' But A G Thang - YouTube

all hits in their own right from 1993, all hiphop, all very popular songs. non of them sound remotely similar. not even close.

now lets compare them to today's supposed top songs in 2012

Turn On The Lights- Future
Future - Turn On The Lights [PLUTO ALBUM]- 2012 - YouTube

No Lie- 2 Chainz Featuring Drake
2 Chainz - No Lie (Explicit) ft. Drake - YouTube

Mercy- Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T, 2 Chainz
Mercy [Dirty|CDQ] - Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T , 2 Chainz - YouTube

Songs sounding way to similar. but thats whats hot in the streets nowadays. make your song sound just like the last man's hit. the entire idea of mixtapes the way people started doing them a few years back by using other peoples songs and not only using that beat. but then rapping in the same cadence as the original rapper. same sounding chorus just different words. more of the same. so when someone does something DIFFERENT. the ears cant take it. even when its good. yall have allowed this formla music to train your ears to only really like the formula.

The formula comes from the labels only promoting a Southern hiphop sound (Rider music/strip club music) & labels trying to reach the white crowd since they are the paying customer(more popish sounding). so you put the two together and you have todays music.

what these black artists and labels forgot is that what made hiphop great was its diversity. what these same black artists/and white label execs forgot. is that White people and other races enjoy black people doing them. making their BLACK people sounding music. not trying to remake electronic music from Germany.

this is why hiphop sells dont look as good as they should even though the genre /culture is still the most popular out right now. people forgot their roots. they forgot the rest of the world loves BLACK people being black people. they dont need us trying to be like them. thats why the music of today is throwaway music. its hot for 2 weeks, wack the next. hot for 2 days, wack the next.

those old songs from 1993 all had a hint of either funk, jazz, in them. thats black folks music. those are genre's black people made popular(yes other people were doing them and doing them well. but black folk sound made those genre's popular. ) this is the SOUL of hiphop. if you get rid of all of that. you have lost the SOUL of hiphop. if you take out the SOUL anyone can replace anyone as a rapper or beat maker. you replacing soul with overseas wanna be electronic music. if you ever listen to that stuff over seas. it sounds 10 times better then our fake renditions of that stuff we use for hiphop and R&B records.

and listen i aint mad at that remix with the german producer killing it, you know where he mashes up a hiphop hit song with his electronic music. thats hot.

Long winded, but co sign. We no longer have diversity like that anymore . Even Kanye has stooped to the contemporary heavy bass/ 808s/ techno club music these days. All genres of music thrived off of diversity and skilled/ innovative artists. Dudes in the streets can't think for themselves and do anything not to be different just to look good for a crowd.

Individuality been dead since the early 00s, but now we got people mad at some dreadlock artist for rapping differently .

Black folk ain't the traditional black folk nowadays, due to the excessive race mixing and everyone following the same blueprint.

 

[biggaveli31]

Because back when "conscious" rap was in its "prime," there was an actual need for it.

Crime rates were at an all time high, crackheads everywhere, muhfukkas getting killed left and right (and nikkas think Chicago is bad today, it use to be ALOT worst in all the major cities).

So when comparing the issues Chuck D rapped about vs. Lupe's, one might say Chuck D's was absolutely more important and actually needed, whereas lupe is kind of being a nitpicker.

 

[rapbeats]

it's true though. for years cat's were on that "fukk all them haters, we makin money" shyt. as someone that tried/tries to promote positive/conscious music, I know about it very well. I suspect if I did some digging, I would find some of those people are now Lupe fans. I mean yeah, more power to them for changing. but it seems more likely they were just riding various bandwagons all along

yes they were riding various bandwagons. what happened is. 1 of 2 things.
#1 they realized just after listening to so much trash(there's a lot out there in your ear daily). that enough is enough. as good as a twix would be right now. 10 twix bars would be over kill. i would feel my body asking for something of substance. the same thing rings true with your mind(food for thought).

#2. these bandwagoners actually got older and grew out of that phase. had some experiences in life that showed them what they were listening to was silly kid music and nothing more. time to grow up. lupe time.

 

[rapbeats]

I said the exact same thing in my last post that dudes callin him preachy are just mad cuz he's callin out they mindsets and lifestyle,I gave a damn analogy and everything...musta went over yalls heads

In my last post I'm Directly addressing the fact that just like people who call Lupe preachy have a underlying reason for callin him that.....Lupe fans have a underlying reason for calling everybody who doesn't like his music dumb basically,the masses just to dumb to realize he's as great as fukin ICE CUBE and Chuck D.....Ice Cube dropped Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It and its a classic track nikka,ya boy just don't make records that hit like that....I told you I listen for the lyrical display but overall his songs just ain't that damn good....and u really implying nikkas should buy a Lupe album to change they life?....its clear now y'all overate the impact his level of music could have...why not just tell these young nikkas to buy the higher quality Cube and Chuck D albums if u lookin to give nikkas the best value for they money and save souls? Oh cuz u want us all to be Lupe fans too,we see your angle nikka

now listen. he aint no cube. lets be serious. he just isnt. but for this era. he's all yall got. cherish this dudes music. stop clowning him for bringing a different angle to the table.

and for yall who said this album has no replay value. yall lying. i finally finished it thru and thru. i got the playlist for you that can easily make the heavy rotation list.

L playlist by s s | Grooveshark - Free Music Streaming, Online Music

2. Strange Fruition Ft. Casey Benjamin
5. Audubon Ballroom
6. B*tch Bad
8. Put ‘Em Up
9. Heart Donor Ft. Poo Bear
11. Battle Scars (with Guy Sebastian)
13. Form Follows Function
14. Cold War Ft. Jane $$$
16. Hood Now (Outro)

9 songs that you can run with. take off any 1. you still got 8. thats half the album. most people dont have more then 2 or 3 songs. Yall lying.

then to the rest of yall that said that LUpe cant connect with the hood.
the fool has a song track 16 HOOD NOW. come on , yall gotta stop the lies. give this dude his props for being on the front lines and given yall something you can put in your rotation with the cotton candy entertainment only rap.