"They Say Du-Wop Homeeee" The GREAT Dwight Howard Returns...2016-17 ATL Hawks Season Thread

[#1 pick]

I'm still confused about all this. And LOL at the Hawks tanking. Bud offense along will have them hoovering around the 38 win mark no matter who the players are

Since when have we done this without talent

 

[#1 pick]

We not asking plumlee to be our starting center. His contract is easily movable. You worried bout the wrong thing.

Dennis and prince need to stay. We need to add to them not trade them. This team is headed for the lottery next year. They will go back to playing better basketball but it won't amount to wins

Yep, I just want what Brooklyn had in the last two years. Attractive losing Basketball with a good culture. Get Zion and Ayton. Restock the farm with more elite level talent.

 

[Atlanta 80s baby]

We not asking plumlee to be our starting center. His contract is easily movable. You worried bout the wrong thing.

Dennis and prince need to stay. We need to add to them not trade them. This team is headed for the lottery next year. They will go back to playing better basketball but it won't amount to wins

Easily tradeable to what extent. He's valued as having arguably the worst contract in the NBA. Right up there with Bazeless but not quite. GM schlenk has to have a plan for 2018 free agency.

 

[Sly Cookin]

Easily tradeable to what extent. He's valued as having arguably the worst contract in the NBA. Right up there with Bazeless but not quite. GM schlenk has to have a plan for 2018 free agency.

How many times has the contract been traded already? Twice already. It'll only get easier as the years left dwindle. In a market where teams giving evan turner 17 million, this is deal that can help facilitate trades.

So is the Bellinelli deal. If a team strikes out on free agents but desperately needs shooting, they will try to get Marco off of us.

It's easier to trade these contracts than to move dwight by himself

 

[Steezy]

How many times has the contract been traded already? Twice already. It'll only get easier as the years left dwindle. In a market where teams giving evan turner 17 million, this is deal that can help facilitate trades.

So is the Bellinelli deal. If a team strikes out on free agents but desperately needs shooting, they will try to get Marco off of us.

It's easier to trade these contracts than to move dwight by himself

Don't even worry bout the new funny style nikkas. They just spouting out bullshyt Atlanta baby or not

 

[KOBE]

That's assuming THJR returns. Even if you brought Sap back this team would have to bust its ass to be an 8 seed. This isn't a playoff team right now



I want what Danny Ferry built: A competitive team that remained flexible via smart contracts and good trades. Being bad enough to tank isn't a strategy. So if you want to tear it down to get better through the draft why are you trading your 31st pick to get the 41st pick? If your intent is to get rid of bad contracts, why are you bringing back a bad contract in Miles Plumlee (12.5 per year through 2019-20)? This trade was a net loss on the two things I wanted (being competitive while maintaining cap flexibility), being bad isn't a strategy

It's amazing Ferry ain't back in the NBA. He read aloud someone else's racist shyt from a scouting report, lost his job, and hasn't gotten a new one even though he made an amazing roster for Atlanta. Legitimately confusing to me.

Also I don't think the 31st to 41st pick really matters to them. I mean it is a step back, but that's not what is important. They want to be bad in the future and get a real top pick, they don't really care about this year's pick and they probably needed to include the pick to move Howard(for whatever reason).

Plumlee was brought likely to make the move work(cap wise) and him being so awful will help you get top picks. Every bad team needs a tank commander.

 

[AVXL]

I'm still confused about all this. And LOL at the Hawks tanking. Bud offense along will have them hoovering around the 38 win mark no matter who the players are

Yea Bud isn't in the business of losing 60 games a yr to get a young guy high in the draft that he's not inclined to play anyway. The team is gonna be coached too well to truly tank

We not asking plumlee to be our starting center. His contract is easily movable. You worried bout the wrong thing.

Dennis and prince need to stay. We need to add to them not trade them. This team is headed for the lottery next year. They will go back to playing better basketball but it won't amount to wins

How is Miles Plumlee, he of 12.5 million a year through 2019-20, an easy contract to move?

And if we really wanna tank I want to be top 5 in the draft, that's where you are truly getting franchise changing guys. As has been said, we'll be not make the playoffs bad, but not Sixers, Lakers, Kings, Suns, Magic bad and thats what we really need to get a potential superstar

 

[Steezy]

Yea Bud isn't in the business of losing 60 games a yr to get a young guy high in the draft that he's not inclined to play anyway. The team is gonna be coached too well to truly tank



How is Miles Plumlee, he of 12.5 million a year through 2019-20, an easy contract to move?

And if we really wanna tank I want to be top 5 in the draft, that's where you are truly getting franchise changing guys. As has been said, we'll be not make the playoffs bad, but not Sixers, Lakers, Kings, Suns, Magic bad and thats what we really need to get a potential superstar

You don't know that bud is gonna lead us to wins when we've always had horford korver Teague and sap..We're gonna be terrible fam and i can tell you're gonna be miserable.

Dennis
Woat
Prince
Draft pick or hump
Moose or draft pick

Barring we don't get a starter in FA that's a 18 win team

 

[Atlanta 80s baby]

Yea Bud isn't in the business of losing 60 games a yr to get a young guy high in the draft that he's not inclined to play anyway. The team is gonna be coached too well to truly tank



How is Miles Plumlee, he of 12.5 million a year through 2019-20, an easy contract to move?

And if we really wanna tank I want to be top 5 in the draft, that's where you are truly getting franchise changing guys. As has been said, we'll be not make the playoffs bad, but not Sixers, Lakers, Kings, Suns, Magic bad and thats what we really need to get a potential superstar

I guess since it's a flat contract that makes it more movable. The Bucks traded Plumlee along with cash to move him. I'm mostly heated about giving up pick 31. Of course, some honk will say it's a second round pick that won't amount to much.

 

[Sly Cookin]

Yea Bud isn't in the business of losing 60 games a yr to get a young guy high in the draft that he's not inclined to play anyway. The team is gonna be coached too well to truly tank



How is Miles Plumlee, he of 12.5 million a year through 2019-20, an easy contract to move?

And if we really wanna tank I want to be top 5 in the draft, that's where you are truly getting franchise changing guys. As has been said, we'll be not make the playoffs bad, but not Sixers, Lakers, Kings, Suns, Magic bad and thats what we really need to get a potential superstar

How has an immovable contract gotten moved twice in 6 months?

 

[Steezy]

How has an immovable contract gotten moved twice in 6 months?

Dudes expecting 5 mil salaries when scrubs around the league are making 15 mil plus let alone stars . We paying baze 18 mil and dudes crying about 12

 

[Sly Cookin]

I guess since it's a flat contract that makes it more movable. The Bucks traded Plumlee along with cash to move him. I'm mostly heated about giving up pick 31. Of course, some honk will say it's a second round pick that won't amount to much.

Please tell us who u had in mind at 31? Who we missing out on that you mad about? Is there a franchise player I'm overlooking?

 

[charmander]

EMERGENCY fukkING MEETING RIGHT NOW

Woj:

@Steezy @charmander @Llcoolbay @FreshFromATL @Rickdogg44 @#1 pick

well boys let's ride this tank straight to hell

 

[AVXL]

So @Sly Cookin @Steezy @#1 pick what grade do y'all give this trade? I think most of us agree that Wop didn't fit but we disagree on the trade. I think it was a disastrous trade even if your main goal was to get rid of Wop because you didn't really gain cap flexibility or bring back young talent. But obviously y'all see it differently. How do y'all grade it?

 

[Sly Cookin]

So @Sly Cookin @Steezy @#1 pick what grade do y'all give this trade? I think most of us agree that Wop didn't fit but we disagree on the trade. I think it was a disastrous trade even if your main goal was to get rid of Wop because you didn't really gain cap flexibility or bring back young talent. But obviously y'all see it differently. How do y'all grade it?

I give it a B. Would be higher if we moved up in the draft.

Given that there was a tweet a couple weeks ago saying GMs were polled and they agreed he was worth no more than a 2nd round pick, we were lucky to come out with just a trade back as opposed to giving the pick outright.

We broke his contract into pieces allowing us to make trades more easier. Bellinelli is a short term shooter for us or trade bait for a shooting hungry team. Plumlee a bum but he's got a movable contract at half the price of dwight. Plus he won't become a headache of he's not getting touches like dwight was.

Now if we gave pick 19, a future 1st, or one of the young guys like bembry I would be upset.