“They” really don’t want you to vote out here “voter intimidation” 🧐

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1. You're still talking about something wholly unrelated to the topic. Which is voter's rights. Regardless of any other issue, there are clear differences and laws in place between Red and Blue states on this one. But I respect the debate, so I'll keep going.

2. Median Household income for African American's is around 50k (that's 20k lower than national average). Not perfect, not great. But in 1990 that was around 35k adjusted for inflation. So across the board African Americans are making more money than they did 30 years ago. Mostly because of educational attainment aka federal loan plans/Pell Grants and reduction of discriminatory hiring practices. All of those being leftist policies. Also, African American women have attained more degrees than any other cohort in America over the past 15 years. But I forgot, women's accomplishments don't count. :sas2:

3. Asians do vote...what is this statistic coming from? But there are flat out LESS Asian people than black/latino people. Going after their vote like that isn't the most efficient use of resources. Also, they have become MOSTLY democratic over the past 30 years.



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4. You demand policy? Let's see....I'll keep it to the past 15 years or so.
- ACA (Obamacare)
- The Student Loan Forgiveness Act
- Pardoning Federal Marijuana Convictions
- Emmitt Till Anti-Lynching Act
- FOSTA-SESTA (which made the facilitation of sex trafficking online federal crime. And who were the largest cohort of people trafficked at the time? Black women.)

The problem is BECAUSE of racism in this country, bills that would single handedly benefit black people are dead on arrival. Not acknowledging this is simply living in la-la land. However, there's many laws and acts put in place that SPECIFICALLY targeted black people without saying so.
For instance, with Loan forgiveness, Pell Grant recipients get an extra 10k knocked off their bill...and who were the people that mostly got Pell Grants? BLACK PEOPLE.

Stop thinking the only "policy" wins are ones that put money in your pocket. That's not the objective of a functioning government. I'm not caping for the US government or anything. I'm merely saying, the notion that black people (and really MOST people) are not in a better place than they were 30-40 years ago is simply untrue. And MOST of that comes from VOTING.

Stopped reading at median income that of course didn’t mention inflation


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Let me help out y'all #BothSidesers, clearly struggling under the weight of your own stupidity to spin this as the Democrats fault:

Thanks to the Republicans we're seeing exactly why we gotta don't vote. If these people would have gotten off the Democratic plantation and don't voted harder, they never would have been arrested for voting. I'm glad this is happening. I already know the Republicans don't care about black people. What are the Democrats doing to stop this? Nothing. This is what Crime Bill Biden wants, for Republicans to make laws that come down on Black people. So you know what? fukk the Democrats. I'm going to continue to don't vote so that Republicans can have their way.

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this is feels like something i would've said
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Stopped reading at median income that of course didn’t mention inflation


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That's fair. No rebuttal. Fair retort.


If you actually read the Covid hate crimes bill, it doesn't do anything directly for Asians only. It's a broad bill that's really designed to strengthen existing hate crime law and policy, strengthen reporting and data collecting, and provide greater resources and incentives to states.

Militants are upset because Asians are the face of the bill and it implies that they are getting favored treatment (understandable) when the bill doesn't live up to that perception. Also, there is an obsession with having the word "black" in every sentence of a law. And if "black" isn't included, then the law or policy somehow doesn't help black people or falls short of whatever imaginary standard that's been created.

Thanks for succinctly saying what I tried to.
 

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If you actually read the Covid hate crimes bill, it doesn't do anything directly for Asians only. It's a broad bill that's really designed to strengthen existing hate crime law and policy, strengthen reporting and data collecting, and provide greater resources and incentives to states.

Militants are upset because Asians are the face of the bill and it implies that they are getting favored treatment (understandable) when the bill doesn't live up to that perception. Also, there is an obsession with having the word "black" in every sentence of a law. And if "black" isn't included, then the law or policy somehow doesn't help black people or falls short of whatever imaginary standard that's been created.
Even if true:

1. That's still bad, oppressed groups need protection, and we've been oppressed for 400+ years.
2. Asians "being the face" has them actually getting progress which is further getting them ahead of us. They 100% looked to give them money for their "racism", but we were PROMISED REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY, AND THE CONTINUED LEGAL RACISM, THE SLAVE MASTERS GOT IT AND THEY RENEGED.
 
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Even if true:

1. That's still bad, oppressed groups need protection, and we've been oppressed for 400+ years.
2. Asians "being the face" has them actually getting progress which is further getting them ahead of us. They 100% looked to give them money for their "racism", but we were PROMISED REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY, AND THE CONTINUED LEGAL RACISM, THE SLAVE MASTERS GOT IT AND THEY RENEGED.

The people behind the AAPI harte crime bill quietly got $100M of federal funds... :childplease: divided among themselves but when pointed out none of these muthaufckas say shyt about it!!!!
 

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You (alleged) Dem shills always try to deflect and act like it's one or the other, and that's not how it works. Just because the Repubicans are flagrantly evil doesn't make the Dems good. After the Civil Right Bill, they integrated us out of our economy, and it's been all downhill since. Are you people really going to pretend they've done right by Black people? We're dying in the streets left and right, but the Asians cried about "racism" for 20 minutes and got money and a hate crime bill, while we've been shyt on for CENTURIES. Asians don't vote in general, and not nearly as overwhelmingly Democrat. I'm not even Reparations or Nothing, but I demand POLICY. You talk about me paying lip service, but lip service is all we get from the Democratic Party. I'll ask you like I ask everyone else, how do we win voting blind Dem when they haven't even promised us anything tangible? "But Trump/Republican Boogeyman" and "lesser of two evils" are not answers. Give me a logical answer and I'll concede. Hasn't happened yet...

Yall MAGAset nikkas and your bullshyt lies and propaganda trying to manipulate people.

Link me to an article or a report showing that "Asians" got a lump sum payout from the Joe Biden administration and "their own bill." Yall been repeating this blatant LIE trying to get black people to not vote for a year now. Show us, fukking idiot. I'll wait.

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So, all the reports saying Black wealth is trending toward zero are lies...Imma need some evidence. And we're still at the bottom.

You're kinda proving my point. Asians get specific policies, yet are less in numbers, and don't vote as overwhelmingly Dem, which is a current trend, as opposed to Black, which have been virtually all Dem for the last half century. Thanks.

ZERO policies for Black people or addressing White Supremacy/Anti-Black Racism directly. My fault for forgetting to say "rising tide lifts all boats" stuff doesn't count either. The Till Act isn't even specific at all, and isn't enforced.



We need a hate crime bill just like the Asians so we can point to it and they can't weasel their way into not prosecuting or putting hate crimes on racists.

IDGAF. If they can do it for the alphabet crew, Jews and Asians, they can for us too. Stop making excuses. They just serve to alleviate fear and ging along to get along. And you still didn't really answer the question.

This little bytch is dismissing every Democrat law that has every provenly helped black people for not being specific to them, but keeps bringing up Asians and "their hate crime bill."

"ASIANS" DID NOT GET THEIR OWN HATE CRIME BILL. READ THE shyt YOU POSTED. THE BILL RAISDS RESOURCES FOR REPORTING HATE CRIMES TOWARDS ANYONE.

This dude is the biggest fukking Republican shill LIAR on this forum. Don't believe ANYTHING that comes out this c00ns mouth or any of his psuedo militant rhetoric. He wants Republicans to win and Democrats to lose. Plain and simple. Getting down black people's ears to not vote Democrat is his own agenda, not yours.
 

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staged?:wtf:

Where did you learn that this was staged?

Are you really sitting here questioning a fellow both sider? Ignoring facts, living in an alternate reality of pure ignorance to what's happening, making up shyt to freely imply whatever you want about Democrats, and have childish excuse not to vote is all yall do.
 
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