They NEVER talk about CRACK...

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The nearly 1.5 mill of us arrested on drug charges, every year, is just one of the many ways in which the crack thing is even more so of an issue now.

breh this is moving the goalposts

nobody denies that the war on drugs, prison industrial complex, racial policing and justice is a problem

the question is about this dread of crack... it's not the only drug involved in these crimes and arrests, Wayne Perry isn't stalking around DC dropping bodies like that, NYC is not a warzone, LA isn't full of drive-bys... that was a whole era that wasn't just about drugs it was about the mix of drugs, crime, industrial decline in urban cities, race , poverty, etc
 

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Lol...this dumb ass "blackking" talking about there's more people selling crack today than in the 80's. :laff: :laff: :laff: The projects in my city used to look like a McDonald's drive-thru near a busy commerce area on a Saturday night all the time in the 80's.

Back then, low-level street dealers were bringing home thousands per night. Now, your average crack dealer on the street makes about the same as a minimum wage worker. Most crackheads today are 40+.

This dude sounds like some sheltered whiteboy.
 

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no one's saying that. just that's it's not as popular as it was in the height of the crack era

not to pull the age card, but if you're not in your mid-30's or older, I'm not sure what kind of reference you have

true true

im just saying that that shyt aint never left

its just not on TV like it was

and people know about it more nowadays and what it can do to you

nikkas was smokin crack in high school back then cuz they aint know no better
 

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You can cry and piss your pants and impotently lash out at me out of frustration all you want, but like I said, there is NOWHERE NEAR as many people using or selling crack as there was in the 80's and that is pure statistical fact. But you're an idiot, so I guess I can't ask you to deal in fact.

No one is lashing out except you. No need for me to lash, since you clearly don't know anything about this. For you to make a statement such as "pure statistical fact that there were more people selling crack" is idiotic beyond belief. And it's funny because you probably don't even understand why your statements are funny about statistics and dealers. NTM, my minor was CJ, and I wrote many papers (not that I need to, to know) about this subject.

The private prison industry alone makes this a much more damaging thing for communities.. the damage and lack of discussion in media, is the point of the thread.

Only a lame muthfacka would said.. statically speaking there aren't as many dealers. First off that's not even true "pure statistical fact" :whoo:, lol. Second, it's not true to anyone who know sh1t about this... except for weird looking lames.

You really can't base life off rap albums or being out of touch with the hood, or whatever you are basing all this on. You are not basing it on fact, but I'm the idiot.

I'm curious to know how exactly how we were able to stop the crack epidemic and make crack NOWHERE NEAR it was in the 80’s. Also, I’m curious to know exactly how it isn't affecting our community on more levels with more of an impact now than in 88.. The lame, unknowledgeable perspective is interesting to me.


Fyi, lames Hate to be called lames.. which is y I say that when responding to your response to me.
 

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The crack epidemic has definitely "plateaued" when it comes to how bad of an effect it will have on a community... Things have a better chance of getting better before getting worse...
 

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Lol...this dumb ass "blackking" talking about there's more people selling crack today than in the 80's. :laff: :laff: :laff: The projects in my city used to look like a McDonald's drive-thru near a busy commerce area on a Saturday night all the time in the 80's.

Back then, low-level street dealers were bringing home thousands per night. Now, your average crack dealer on the street makes about the same as a minimum wage worker. Most crackheads today are 40+.

This dude sounds like some sheltered whiteboy.
I don't care that you come online to not sound corny and lame and pretend to be cool.

I'm far from sheltered. I don't care that you drove by the hood a few times. That makes you an expert. I see that there wasn't a significant drop in crack dealers and I see that it really does affect the hood just as much.

I also used to see people like you drive by like projects and look at the shyt like tourist. The make out of touch opinions on issues like you are doing now.

I don't care that American gansta documentaries has people thinking that drug lords and 25 year olds making crazy money is a thing of the past. Or that the average drug dealer isn't rich. There are more drug dealers.. and more importantly, it really is still affecting our communities just as much.. if not more so with the private prison industry.
 

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No one is lashing out except you. No need for me to lash, since you clearly don't know anything about this. For you to make a statement such as "pure statistical fact that there were more people selling crack" is idiotic beyond belief. And it's funny because you probably don't even understand why your statements are funny about statistics and dealers. NTM, my minor was CJ, and I wrote many papers (not that I need to, to know) about this subject.

The private prison industry alone makes this a much more damaging thing for communities.. the damage and lack of discussion in media, is the point of the thread.

Only a lame muthfacka would said.. statically speaking there aren't as many dealers. First off that's not even true "pure statistical fact" :whoo:, lol. Second, it's not true to anyone who know sh1t about this... except for weird looking lames.

You really can't base life off rap albums or being out of touch with the hood, or whatever you are basing all this on. You are not basing it on fact, but I'm the idiot.

I'm curious to know how exactly how we were able to stop the crack epidemic and make crack NOWHERE NEAR it was in the 80’s. Also, I’m curious to know exactly how it isn't affecting our community on more levels with more of an impact now than in 88.. The lame, unknowledgeable perspective is interesting to me.


Fyi, lames Hate to be called lames.. which is y I say that when responding to your response to me.

:laff: You are such a fukking idiot...my god. Okay "blackking," go ahead and provide evidence that there is more crack dealers and crack usage now than in the 80's. I'll wait...

The crack epidemic lost steam because people realized that smoking crack wasn't a good look from all the zombies they saw roaming around and young people stopped starting to use in the first place, you moron. That's why the average crackhead today is 40+.

I never said crack isn't an issue today. All I said is using and selling crack is WAY down from the 80's and this is undisputable fact that no one from law enforcement to drug users and dealers themselves questions except for you.
 

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I don't care that you come online to not sound corny and lame and pretend to be cool.

I'm far from sheltered. I don't care that you drove by the hood a few times. That makes you an expert. I see that there wasn't a significant drop in crack dealers and I see that it really does affect the hood just as much.

I also used to see people like you drive by like projects and look at the shyt like tourist. The make out of touch opinions on issues like you are doing now.

I don't care that American gansta documentaries has people thinking that drug lords and 25 year olds making crazy money is a thing of the past. Or that the average drug dealer isn't rich. There are more drug dealers.. and more importantly, it really is still affecting our communities just as much.. if not more so with the private prison industry.

I sound like a broken record but again, I didn't say crack is over. I said it's way down from its height in the 80's and 90's and this is not debatable...not to anyone who isn't retarded anyway.
 

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no one's saying that. just that's it's not as popular as it was in the height of the crack era

not to pull the age card, but if you're not in your mid-30's or older, I'm not sure what kind of reference you have

I think that the OP was about lack of communication about the issue.

But regardless.. if a person has old men in their family who sold it in the 80's and sold other drugs in the 70's.... and the person is in their 20's but sold exactly what we are discussing in a bulk amount that seems like a lie or a joke...... I think that that individual may know a little bit about what they are talking about, even if they aren't in there mid 30's.

We know that at the height of the crack era people had weapons and the murders were crazy and the entire era was wild and damn near glamorized .. but things are still crazy, and in some ways more organized and low key. Plus more spread aroung.. with one DD having so many bottom of the barrel deals working for him that there are simply more dealers these days.

Ntm, everyone.. and I mean everyone.. eats off the residue affects of this issue. But ok....
 

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We know that at the height of the crack era people had weapons and the murders were crazy and the entire era was wild and damn near glamorized .. but things are still crazy, and in some ways more organized and low key. Plus more spread aroung.. with one DD having so many bottom of the barrel deals working for him that there are simply more dealers these days.

Ntm, everyone.. and I mean everyone.. eats off the residue affects of this issue. But ok....

Okay, but what separates it then from the other drugs people abuse--regular powder cocaine, syrup, meth, pills, heroin etc--and warrants extra attention

frankly I think the hysteria about crack (creating the disproportionate sentencing etc) perversely caused even more problems
 

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Every Town, In every City, in every state... There is crack... There are crack laws and crack dealers.

How do they not discuss this? How do they not acknowledge the failed war on drugs?

As a black candidate, from a world famous crime center, from a corrupt local government... ignores one of the biggest issues affecting those he represent...

I even read Dr. West... Dyson... And they speak on the political climate in america and its affects on blacks, without even mentioning crack one time...

They even try to speak on black on black crime, and skip over the crack issue...


Why is this? And how do you, as a voter, justify ignoring this issue?


don't know anyone from my generation who is into crack. The real problem right now are meth and prescription drugs.
 

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I think that the OP was about lack of communication about the issue.

But regardless.. if a person has old men in their family who sold it in the 80's and sold other drugs in the 70's.... and the person is in their 20's but sold exactly what we are discussing in a bulk amount that seems like a lie or a joke...... I think that that individual may know a little bit about what they are talking about, even if they aren't in there mid 30's.

We know that at the height of the crack era people had weapons and the murders were crazy and the entire era was wild and damn near glamorized .. but things are still crazy, and in some ways more organized and low key. Plus more spread aroung.. with one DD having so many bottom of the barrel deals working for him that there are simply more dealers these days.

Ntm, everyone.. and I mean everyone.. eats off the residue affects of this issue. But ok....

If you would've similarly said crack is still a big problem particularly in innercity areas suffering urban decay, no one would have any problem with that.

But you said there are more crack dealers and it affects more people than it did in the late 80's, and that is pure bullshyt that you completely pulled out of your ass.
 

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Crack is very relivant. I mean I know 25 year olds, who were in middle school when I was in HS, who are sitting on 400K, talking bout "boss" like they are CEOs or some sh1t.

I've seen mothers who are skinny walking the streets hangin at gas stations waiting for a car w rims to roll up.

It's even more an issue now than it was in 87, 88, because it affects more people and there are more people pushing it.

Dr. West has mentioned it before, but regardless, it is a problem that people don't talk about crack in politics or the media.

Not just a late 80's issue. I guess u have to be real to realize.

nah
 
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