They killed Alpo Martinez

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Troy still on some weak shyt. The streets only a "myth" for people unaware of the checks and balances; most dudes who get into it young learn the rules young. These dudes who get into it later have the misperception of these media rules...

Everybody should know there's always the threat of snitches and potential snitches. There's always the threat of your people turning on you, your "brothers". All that is in the game...

Troy justifies not really being cut like that with the streets being a myth...

For one. U “live from London” talkin bout NYC and US. Business. Number 2. The reasons was laid out. The nikka wasn’t a rapper antagonizing people. He was also REALLY a killer and would press anybody who had a problem. Which he has done since he been out. He pressed Jim Jones not long ago. Rappers did say shyt. Mysonne got a whole viral freestyle on Hot 97 about dude and nikkas embracing him. Regardless. Overall. Po was a real street grimey sociopath. Snitch or not. Alotta nikkas ain’t built like that. Especially these rap nikkas. Especially considering he wasn’t all in the limelight.

Idk why these people don't get that a rat is just a person being real about self preservation. That person just values their freedom over other people freedom and any stigma that might come with being a snitch. It has zero to do with if that person would cave your head in.
Not sure where this belief of rat == p*ssy originated but alot of people would end up saying some shyt to the wrong rat and learn the hard way, look what happened to Nipsey.

Just to point out where my point of view is coming from, I used to despise snitches...

Being a snitch makes you the biggest p*ssy possible. This doesn't mean they won't hurt you in an advantageous situation but it also doesn't make them admirable gangsters because they'd still hurt you despite telling on people...

Regarding Po, couple things:

•there's an account of some dude back in the day smacking him up for fukking his woman, anyone know the story on this?

•Silk Perry says Po wasn't cut like that and he knew it...

•Alpo did his whole 24 years PC'd up, this dude was not on a normal yard around peers...

Personally I'm not inclined to believe Po was this rare breed of G, because there are types like him, guys that are dangerous with guns in their hands or with advantageous circumstances. There are guys who are street tough, guys who are prison tough, and some who are both. Prison is the ultimate exposal grounds because when you gotta walk that yard all that shyt you were part of outside is secondary to the activities of how you demo inside----->MANY nikkas will kill you on the streets and get the bytch brought out of them inside...

For this reason alone I'm not buying into the notion of Po as a different breed or respectable g, let alone other reasons. The nikka wouldn't even walk the yard after telling, and contrary to popular belief, there are snitches who are walking the yards at max prisons with a variety of outcomes...

I read up on his story the last few days and multiple accounts say this dude broke down in tears in court the day after his arrest, and immediately became an informant. Like, this nikka didn't even need time to bake on it, within a few days or a week he was already ratting. This is the worst kind of "street nikka", when he's up its all good but these types don't handle adversity well...

I've told dudes on here before, there are cats walking with verified bodies on them who really ain't cut like that. A nikka having killed someone only gets viewed as a "real gangster" outside the streets, ie by non-street folks, on the internet, in our media, etc...

Po was a killer and a "savage" in more ways than one definition but he was also kind of soft and if one nikka (Silk) saw it in him, there were others who did too. Whether people "ran down" on him checking his gangster is irrelevant as many dudes steer clear of people they get these impressions from anyway; other guys prefer not to involve themselves in politics that don't directly involve them, meaning if Po never hurt someone affiliated with them, they don't see the value in creating an issue where there is none...

So the crowd on here that says "well no one was checking him", this flies over your head...

The main issue here is "the streets" have become so saturated and oversimplified with galmorization, hype, entertainment, that people misperceive what it's really like in these rooms unless you've been in them, or what the players in the game are really like unless you've been them or around them directly...

Add to the glorification 80s dudes (and now 90s) get in general, there's a certain mythology those older guys take on as the decades disappear and the truth gets blurry. Obviously dude was a real factor in his day, but money and power (which he had in his youth) mask character deficiencies, and to the common observer if you've killed someone you're American Gangster....

Po was a gangster but not a unique breed of one and him being a gangster doesn't exclude him from being a buster...
 

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Troy still on some weak shyt. The streets only a "myth" for people unaware of the checks and balances; most dudes who get into it young learn the rules young. These dudes who get into it later have the misperception of these media rules...

Everybody should know there's always the threat of snitches and potential snitches. There's always the threat of your people turning on you, your "brothers". All that is in the game...

Troy justifies not really being cut like that with the streets being a myth...





Just to point out where my point of view is coming from, I used to despise snitches...

Being a snitch makes you the biggest p*ssy possible. This doesn't mean they won't hurt you in an advantageous situation but it also doesn't make them admirable gangsters because they'd still hurt you despite telling on people...

Regarding Po, couple things:

•there's an account of some dude back in the day smacking him up for fukking his woman, anyone know the story on this?

•Silk Perry says Po wasn't cut like that and he knew it...

•Alpo did his whole 24 years PC'd up, this dude was not on a normal yard around peers...

Personally I'm not inclined to believe Po was this rare breed of G, because there are types like him, guys that are dangerous with guns in their hands or with advantageous circumstances. There are guys who are street tough, guys who are prison tough, and some who are both. Prison is the ultimate exposal grounds because when you gotta walk that yard all that shyt you were part of outside is secondary to the activities of how you demo inside----->MANY nikkas will kill you on the streets and get the bytch brought out of them inside...

For this reason alone I'm not buying into the notion of Po as a different breed or respectable g, let alone other reasons. The nikka wouldn't even walk the yard after telling, and contrary to popular belief, there are snitches who are walking the yards at max prisons with a variety of outcomes...

I read up on his story the last few days and multiple accounts say this dude broke down in tears in court the day after his arrest, and immediately became an informant. Like, this nikka didn't even need time to bake on it, within a few days or a week he was already ratting. This is the worst kind of "street nikka", when he's up its all good but these types don't handle adversity well...

I've told dudes on here before, there are cats walking with verified bodies on them who really ain't cut like that. A nikka having killed someone only gets viewed as a "real gangster" outside the streets, ie by non-street folks, on the internet, in our media, etc...

Po was a killer and a "savage" in more ways than one definition but he was also kind of soft and if one nikka (Silk) saw it in him, there were others who did too. Whether people "ran down" on him checking his gangster is irrelevant as many dudes steer clear of people they get these impressions from anyway; other guys prefer not to involve themselves in politics that don't directly involve them, meaning if Po never hurt someone affiliated with them, they don't see the value in creating an issue where there is none...

So the crowd on here that says "well no one was checking him", this flies over your head...

The main issue here is "the streets" have become so saturated and oversimplified with galmorization, hype, entertainment, that people misperceive what it's really like in these rooms unless you've been in them, or what the players in the game are really like unless you've been them or around them directly...

Add to the glorification 80s dudes (and now 90s) get in general, there's a certain mythology those older guys take on as the decades disappear and the truth gets blurry. Obviously dude was a real factor in his day, but money and power (which he had in his youth) mask character deficiencies, and to the common observer if you've killed someone you're American Gangster....

Po was a gangster but not a unique breed of one and him being a gangster doesn't exclude him from being a buster...
In that feds magazine interview po said he wasn’t scared of catching bodies on the street etc but once he got jammed up he was scared to death

“I was more scared dealing with these white folks than anything”

“I wasn’t scared dealing with the brother man but I was definitely scared dealing with the other man”

 

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Troy still on some weak shyt. The streets only a "myth" for people unaware of the checks and balances; most dudes who get into it young learn the rules young. These dudes who get into it later have the misperception of these media rules...

Everybody should know there's always the threat of snitches and potential snitches. There's always the threat of your people turning on you, your "brothers". All that is in the game...

Troy justifies not really being cut like that with the streets being a myth...





Just to point out where my point of view is coming from, I used to despise snitches...

Being a snitch makes you the biggest p*ssy possible. This doesn't mean they won't hurt you in an advantageous situation but it also doesn't make them admirable gangsters because they'd still hurt you despite telling on people...

Regarding Po, couple things:

•there's an account of some dude back in the day smacking him up for fukking his woman, anyone know the story on this?

•Silk Perry says Po wasn't cut like that and he knew it...

•Alpo did his whole 24 years PC'd up, this dude was not on a normal yard around peers...

Personally I'm not inclined to believe Po was this rare breed of G, because there are types like him, guys that are dangerous with guns in their hands or with advantageous circumstances. There are guys who are street tough, guys who are prison tough, and some who are both. Prison is the ultimate exposal grounds because when you gotta walk that yard all that shyt you were part of outside is secondary to the activities of how you demo inside----->MANY nikkas will kill you on the streets and get the bytch brought out of them inside...

For this reason alone I'm not buying into the notion of Po as a different breed or respectable g, let alone other reasons. The nikka wouldn't even walk the yard after telling, and contrary to popular belief, there are snitches who are walking the yards at max prisons with a variety of outcomes...

I read up on his story the last few days and multiple accounts say this dude broke down in tears in court the day after his arrest, and immediately became an informant. Like, this nikka didn't even need time to bake on it, within a few days or a week he was already ratting. This is the worst kind of "street nikka", when he's up its all good but these types don't handle adversity well...

I've told dudes on here before, there are cats walking with verified bodies on them who really ain't cut like that. A nikka having killed someone only gets viewed as a "real gangster" outside the streets, ie by non-street folks, on the internet, in our media, etc...

Po was a killer and a "savage" in more ways than one definition but he was also kind of soft and if one nikka (Silk) saw it in him, there were others who did too. Whether people "ran down" on him checking his gangster is irrelevant as many dudes steer clear of people they get these impressions from anyway; other guys prefer not to involve themselves in politics that don't directly involve them, meaning if Po never hurt someone affiliated with them, they don't see the value in creating an issue where there is none...

So the crowd on here that says "well no one was checking him", this flies over your head...

The main issue here is "the streets" have become so saturated and oversimplified with galmorization, hype, entertainment, that people misperceive what it's really like in these rooms unless you've been in them, or what the players in the game are really like unless you've been them or around them directly...

Add to the glorification 80s dudes (and now 90s) get in general, there's a certain mythology those older guys take on as the decades disappear and the truth gets blurry. Obviously dude was a real factor in his day, but money and power (which he had in his youth) mask character deficiencies, and to the common observer if you've killed someone you're American Gangster....

Po was a gangster but not a unique breed of one and him being a gangster doesn't exclude him from being a buster...

this is an interresting point of view

when you listen to a lot of interview, including alpo's. you realize there's a lot of different types of guys who were in the game and it's more complicated than a simple good guy/bad guy thing.

alpo got 14 bodies yes, but a few people points out that when he recounts his murder stories, he was often not the killer but the one who gave the green light, and another cat did the dirty work. he was just assisting. and a lot of time, the victims didn't realized what was happening because he did that by using their trust in him. domencio, rich and gary never saw him coming. it was a bullet in the back of their head each time, and alpo never was the guy who pulled the trigger first. he never confronted his enemies or give them a chance of gun battle him.

alpo is about self preservation, all he want is get the money, get rid of anyone who gets in the way of money or women, fukking other mans girls and that's it. he don't care about the code of the streets. he's also addict to the attention and the lights. that's why he rode that bike, that's why he wore those flashy jackets, that's why he couldn't keep a low profile under witness protection.

a guy like azie was just about gettin money, make sure everybody eat, he was not about murdering people, as soon as violence came knockin in his door, he backed down
 

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No one is going to risk life in prison over someone that snitched before they were born. The dudes that did/do have an issue with him are in their 50's, dead, or in jail...

No one is afraid of him though. Killers get their issue everyday... He could get stepped on just like anyone else out here.

Said this back in January concerning Alpo…
 

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Troy still on some weak shyt. The streets only a "myth" for people unaware of the checks and balances; most dudes who get into it young learn the rules young. These dudes who get into it later have the misperception of these media rules...

Everybody should know there's always the threat of snitches and potential snitches. There's always the threat of your people turning on you, your "brothers". All that is in the game...

Troy justifies not really being cut like that with the streets being a myth...





Just to point out where my point of view is coming from, I used to despise snitches...

Being a snitch makes you the biggest p*ssy possible. This doesn't mean they won't hurt you in an advantageous situation but it also doesn't make them admirable gangsters because they'd still hurt you despite telling on people...

Regarding Po, couple things:

•there's an account of some dude back in the day smacking him up for fukking his woman, anyone know the story on this?

•Silk Perry says Po wasn't cut like that and he knew it...

•Alpo did his whole 24 years PC'd up, this dude was not on a normal yard around peers...

Personally I'm not inclined to believe Po was this rare breed of G, because there are types like him, guys that are dangerous with guns in their hands or with advantageous circumstances. There are guys who are street tough, guys who are prison tough, and some who are both. Prison is the ultimate exposal grounds because when you gotta walk that yard all that shyt you were part of outside is secondary to the activities of how you demo inside----->MANY nikkas will kill you on the streets and get the bytch brought out of them inside...

For this reason alone I'm not buying into the notion of Po as a different breed or respectable g, let alone other reasons. The nikka wouldn't even walk the yard after telling, and contrary to popular belief, there are snitches who are walking the yards at max prisons with a variety of outcomes...

I read up on his story the last few days and multiple accounts say this dude broke down in tears in court the day after his arrest, and immediately became an informant. Like, this nikka didn't even need time to bake on it, within a few days or a week he was already ratting. This is the worst kind of "street nikka", when he's up its all good but these types don't handle adversity well...

I've told dudes on here before, there are cats walking with verified bodies on them who really ain't cut like that. A nikka having killed someone only gets viewed as a "real gangster" outside the streets, ie by non-street folks, on the internet, in our media, etc...

Po was a killer and a "savage" in more ways than one definition but he was also kind of soft and if one nikka (Silk) saw it in him, there were others who did too. Whether people "ran down" on him checking his gangster is irrelevant as many dudes steer clear of people they get these impressions from anyway; other guys prefer not to involve themselves in politics that don't directly involve them, meaning if Po never hurt someone affiliated with them, they don't see the value in creating an issue where there is none...

So the crowd on here that says "well no one was checking him", this flies over your head...

The main issue here is "the streets" have become so saturated and oversimplified with galmorization, hype, entertainment, that people misperceive what it's really like in these rooms unless you've been in them, or what the players in the game are really like unless you've been them or around them directly...

Add to the glorification 80s dudes (and now 90s) get in general, there's a certain mythology those older guys take on as the decades disappear and the truth gets blurry. Obviously dude was a real factor in his day, but money and power (which he had in his youth) mask character deficiencies, and to the common observer if you've killed someone you're American Gangster....

Po was a gangster but not a unique breed of one and him being a gangster doesn't exclude him from being a buster...
That was in Sub Zero interview there was a dude named Ran that was a bigger menace than Alpo who was above him. Alpo fukked his girl while he was locked up and Ran smacked him up and was gonna kill him. Alpo gave him some bricks and a car and was forgiven.

I don’t know if he was in PC the whole time I saw a post in another thread somebody said they saw a podcast that Po was wildin doing dumb shyt in prison and almost got himself out the program
 

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You know I'm surprised dude lasted 6 years out the pen and as long as he did.

It's weird none of his old associates ran up on him and tried to check him or get revenge in that time, especially since people were saying he was out on the block and visible at times and chatting with nikkas in the streets.

Makes you wonder if one of his old associates from Harlem got him, a nikka who drove up from DC, or a young lil nikka like 23 years old coming up in the game who happened to follow him out of that party, creep up on his SUV and put 5 quick ones in his window.

Not sure which one is the most plausible.
 

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What people don't get about the informant aspect is that his girlfriend from DC said that he had no ties to anyone down there and the game was the game. He told on DC nikkas. The same people he was trying to put on and show love to, tried to kidnap him, almost killed him and turned him into the serial killer.
Kevin chiles said he helped the feds in his case, and he is from nyc.

im sure that nikka snitched on a ton of people from all over
 
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