They attempted to sabotage Tariq Nasheed’s new movie.

[MostReal]

The flaw in your argument is that Tariq does not only react with white supremacists respectfully but with ALL white people. He acts like the sambo he speaks often out against. Super harsh to his own, very cordial with whites.

because he goes in, not knowing what or who he's dealing with. He views all of them as 'suspected' white supremist until proven differently.

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

because he goes in, not knowing what or who he's dealing with. He views all of them as 'suspected' white supremist until proven differently.

Stop caping for this imbecile.

This is the same Tariq that told Jared Taylor, a well known white supremacist that white people collectively are smarter than black people. He literally told the WS that.

 

[Voice of Reason]

As long as he continues to view his own people as low IQ individuals that will continue to donate to him and fund all his projects, he'll never stop scamming for money. And here I was thinking the musuem was the final grift.

Tariq hates black people. He hates us, that's why he talks down to us, both FBA and non-FBA. He's only cordial and respectful when talking to white people. Even when he was debating that old white supremacist, can't recall his name, it was all "yes Sir", coming from Tariq. That should tell you something.

Yeah anyone who constantly uses the n word in a derisive manner hates Black folks.


Tariq is a scam artist comedian but he's entertaining.


Having said that I still believe in delineation.

 

[Rakim Allah]

hmm I'm going to try to approach this with some nuance because it requires it. The reason Tariq debates or converses with whites like that because it gives him a strategic advantage. If a Black man hoops and hollas during a debate with SWS, he will be deemed intellectually incapable of having a nuanced adult debate without becoming emotional. Tariq would be boxed in via the "angry black man" trope. This would actually turn off more of his black listeners as we would not feel he has the fortitude to stand toe to toe with the "civilized" white man.
Whenever a black person steps into the arena with one of these cacs, Civilization is the number 1 claim that they try to hold over black people. It is why Africa was destabilized, its why the Black Seminoles were hidden in history, its why Tulsa was destroyed, its why our "urban" areas are defunded today. Civilization must be something we aspire to but can never achieve in a SWS mindset because we are supposed to be intellectually inferior.
Knowing this, Tariq cannot go into a debate and become a ratchet stereotype because that is the box they want to put us in. Obama was masterful at maintaining his dignity and standing, whenever he debated with the Republicans, I give him major props for that. It drove the cacs mad.

There is a morsel of truth in your statement. I think it is more so disappointment in Black people for not seeing the games being ran on us than actual hate for his own people.

Spoken/typed with nuance, keen insight, intelligence and scholarship, friends.

 

[Billy Ocean]

A few short years ago Tariq credited Jamaicans for Hip Hop:

I'm not sure why he wouldn't include Herc, years ago Tariq was singing a different tune ....

Tariq is all over the place and shouldn't be taken serious


edit: That was from Taharka Bey's video.

 

[MostReal]

Stop caping for this imbecile.

This is the same Tariq that told Jared Taylor, a well known white supremacist that white people collectively are smarter than black people. He literally told the WS that.

just pointing out tactics breh, I get it you dont vibe with the guy

 

[Buddy]

Like I said my nikka, I don't call any Black fam tethers online or IRL. I'm not with that bullshyt & this documentary is exactly needed; even if I don't agree with what Tariq says but this 100% solid. You need to be able to separate that from your dislike of dude

I'm not against it being a thing but why do yall feel it's "needed"? Cause it seems like the "need" stems from this supposed onslaught of people claiming others created hip hop, but no one was paying them any mind until he started bringing it to ya'lls attention.

It's a campaign to stoke controversy and a "need" for the product. In otherwords he literally SOLD you the movie before it was thing and anyone that played into it sold to to themselves and others. He does this with virtually every film. Remember all the gay talk and controversy leading into Buck Breaking??? We "needed" that movie too and for some reason they're still gay as ever

 

[Digital Omen]

Denying that sound clash/soundsystem dub reggae culture had any effect on the creation of hip hop is ignorant as fukk. Moorus and the Eugenist got you nikkas SICK.

Not just that, apparently Kool Herc (Jamaica) and Grandmaster Flash (Barbados) had nothing to do with the creation of Hip Hop either.

 

[Rakim Allah]

A few short years ago Tariq credited Jamaicans for Hip Hop:

Start at 51:20, friend.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Start at 51:20, friend.

I'm not sure why he wouldn't include Herc, years ago Tariq was singing a different tune ....

Tariq is all over the place and shouldn't be taken serious


edit: That was from Taharka Bey's video.

 

[Knicksman20]

I'm not against it being a thing but why do yall feel it's "needed"? Cause it seems like the "need" stems from this supposed onslaught of people claiming others created hip hop, but no one was paying them any mind until he started bringing it to ya'lls attention.

It's a campaign to stoke controversy and a "need" for the product. In otherwords he literally SOLD you the movie before it was thing and anyone that played into it sold to to themselves and others. He does this with virtually every film. Remember all the gay talk and controversy leading into Buck Breaking??? We "needed" that movie too and for some reason they're still gay as ever

This is totally untrue & I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous either. Did you not read what I said about Busta Rhymes on Drinks Champs a page or two back? What he said has been the belief of many for years that needs to be corrected. This isn't some Tariq phenomenon that he spoke into existence. Even some of us here believed hip hop started with Herc but that's been proven false with the research @IllmaticDelta & @TripleAgent put in over the years. Credit needs to be given to the AA pioneers of hip hop while most are still alive. And this is a factual story that needs to be told w/o the lies & misinformation that's been spread as fact

 

[Buddy]

This is totally untrue & I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous either. Did you not read what I said about Busta Rhymes on Drinks Champs a page or two back? What he said has been the belief of many for years that needs to be corrected. This isn't some Tariq phenomenon that he spoke into existence. Even some of us here believed hip hop started with Herc but that's been proven false with the research @IllmaticDelta & @TripleAgent put in over the years. Credit needs to be given to the AA pioneers of hip hop while most are still alive. And this is a factual story that needs to be told w/o the lies & misinformation that's been spread as fact

Again: He SOLD you the "need" breh... It's reverse psychology. That's not the first time someone said another group invented hip hop so what's the difference now? Other than someone telling you to be concerned by it? And how their movie is gonna solve it?

 

[Billy Ocean]

This is totally untrue & I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous either. Did you not read what I said about Busta Rhymes on Drinks Champs a page or two back? What he said has been the belief of many for years that needs to be corrected. This isn't some Tariq phenomenon that he spoke into existence. Even some of us here believed hip hop started with Herc but that's been proven false with the research @IllmaticDelta & @TripleAgent put in over the years. Credit needs to be given to the AA pioneers of hip hop while most are still alive. And this is a factual story that needs to be told w/o the lies & misinformation that's been spread as fact

Black Americans absolutely created Hip Hop culture but why nikkas in here dikkeating a nikka who only a few short years back said it was created by Jamaicans?

I'm not sure why he wouldn't include Herc, years ago Tariq was singing a different tune ....

Tariq is all over the place and shouldn't be taken serious


edit: That was from Taharka Bey's video.

 

[MostReal]

Again: He SOLD you the "need" breh... It's reverse psychology. That's not the first time someone said another group invented hip hop so what's the difference now? Other than someone telling you to be concerned by it? And how their movie is gonna solve it?

documenting facts and making a record for historical research of our history here in America, should always be welcomed in Black American society.

 

[Buddy]

documenting facts and making a record for historical research of our history here in America, should always be welcomed in Black American society.

That doesn't answer the question, being welcomed is one thing but brehs keep speaking to the "need" for the film and its starting to sound like a captive audience.



It would've been just as welcomed 5, 10, 15 years ago just like any other documentary but no one was saying we "need" it back then. Just like no one was saying we "need" Buck Breaking. It's almost as if we conventiently "need" whatever he's hawking at the moment.