These illegal Mexicans getting these licenses in California

[Robert Trejo]

I really don't care because once we're dealing with the millions of people we're talking about then you can't keep claiming to ignore how much of an macroeconomic effect this has on the country.

You should care because the U.S. interventions have destabilize that region and it's one of the main reasons those countries have shytty governments that force people to look elsewhere for survival.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What if they pay federal and state taxes?

Again. They don't pay taxes that can be verified outside of sales tax when they buy shyt.

Its hard to confirm if they're being paid above board to even charge them appropriate for income, property, or other associated taxes because they're UNDOCUMENTED.

If you can't verify shyt, then you never really know!

Why are ya'll pretending to play dumb on this?

Theres like 50 sources here on this:

Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Robert Trejo]

We are talking about illegal undocumented freeloaders not children who have citizen parents.

Can you tell the difference between an illegal kid and a kid that's a citizen?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

A lot of them children are US citizens.

So?

We're talking about illegal immigrants. Ya'll gotta stay focused.

 

[godkiller]

I'm confused as to how this initiative costs California money...

It legitimatizes illegal aliens, encourages them, and has a negative impact on American people, wages and jobs. Minorities are most affected because they are the most vulnerable in the job and social markets.

Just taking back what's theirs

Spain isn't Mexico and the territory below the Adams-Onis treaty line originally belonged to the Natives before Spain stole it, so what are you talking about?

Hispanics can't be here illegally. This is our country

The USA is not a Hispanic country. Mexicans have no right to it whatsoever.

 

[Robert Trejo]

Illegals are not taxed, so explain how that would go.

Illegals pay taxes

They get taxes taken out of their checks just like any other person.

They may not have a SS# but they sure do have tax ID

 

[surgical gloves]

Illegals are not taxed, so explain how that would go.

You've been spewing way too much false/xenophobic/prejudiced bs in here. It's clear what your agenda is.
They pay sales tax and federal taxes that get deducted in their paychecks. Federal taxes that they won't be getting refunded, since most of them can't do their tax returns due to them more than likely using false social security numbers.
If they're getting paid under the table, then point the blame at those companies and contractors hiring them, since they're the ones benefiting the most from it.

 

[Londilon]

Can you tell the difference between an illegal kid and a kid that's a citizen?

The economy doesn't go based off looks. A lit of you fight for illegal immigration are going based of illogical thinking and feelings. fukk feelings cause feelings don't give me a job, food, house, or money in my pocket.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

everyone calm down,

1) we all know there is not gonna be any mass deportations of undocumented immigrants

It should. It sucks, but a line has to be drawn. A significant fraction shouldn't feel comfortable just evading the law.

2) most undocumented immigrants are reasonable and want a chance to succeed in this country, which sometimes requires college and university.

Congrats. You're a human. You know who also wants success? Every one else.

3) "I immigrated here legally, why can't they?" this old argument fails to mention one thing. it's expensive to immigrate here and it could take more than a decade to get permission.

I already advocate reform for LEGAL immigration including revamping how the lotto is carried out and different classifications for types if immigration.

4) "its an invasion!" . . well if the U.S. didn't have a history of opening the gates from time to time when it needs cheap labor from across the border, it would'nt have this problem. not to mention the large number of
businesses and corporations that turn a blind eye to UI.

At no point did I ever condone businesses abusing illegal labor.

But we can't address the demand issue without curbing the supply.

And the "supply" keeps trying to use emotional tricks to evade accountability for their actions.

Does citizenship mean anything anymore?

4) "they took our joobz" . . if you were replaced by an UI, rethink your future! when they passed those anti U.I. laws in georgia back in 2011, a lot of farmers complained that they were losing millions in produce because they
were having a hard time keeping legal white and black workers, fast forward to today, U.I. are back to work, because Georgia realized no one except U.I. farm workers are willing to work harvesting produce.

I have friends and family members who worked those "shytty" jobs to put their families in better positions and to give them valuable entry level work experience.

And this isn't just farm hands and burger flippers.

We're talking about nurses:

Illegal immigrant nurses can now be licensed in California | allnurses

We're talking about fukkign INVESTMENT bankers



Bruh if a latino woman got this job, they easily could have interviewed a black candidate for this. Thats a fukking FACT.

5) thankfully most black people are cool with Mexicans (at least where im from) they're smart enough not to fall for that Trump BS.

This ain't about Trump. This is about justice and equality.

 

[godkiller]

Hispanics can't be here illegally. This is our country

How?

I have made several topics on this subject. Illegals harm disadvantaged minorities like blacks the most by taking the jobs black are most likely to do and by fighting blacks for the black market too. Black male incarceration and unemployment rates rise with increasing Mexican immigration. In other words, no black American should support illegal immigration from Mexico, China, etc.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Can you tell the difference between an illegal kid and a kid that's a citizen?

No dumbass. Should we print bar codes on them? Is that what you'd want just so you can keep equating anyone who disagrees to being a hitler sympathizer?

You're bugging.

The point is that we know they lie on forms. We know they have massive macroeconomic effects on the government. We know they have massive macroeconomic effects on the distribution of income in different demographics.

Keep trolling with that dumbass question.

 

[damn_ese]

Am I lying though? there are always gonna be freeloaders in every group, Undocumented Immigrants aren't better or lesser than anyone else, but at the end of the day
most just want to live life and live a good life, which takes a college education to attain.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Someone school me.

Dont you need to a Green Card to be able to work? Wouldn't in the process of getting a green card it would expose who you got to this country?

I just dont understand how you can go undocumented and be able to get a job that doesnt pay under the table.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How?


I have made several topics on this subject. Illegals harm disadvantaged minorities like blacks the most by taking the jobs black are most likely to do and by fighting blacks for the black market too. Black male incarceration and unemployment rates rise with increasing Mexican immigration. In other words, no black American should support illegal immigration from Mexico, China, etc.

Bruh it pisses me off to NO end.

We have all these black felons ITCHING to get work...so how the fukk are they supposed to get any sort of support when an entire demographic of MILLIONS is directly competing with them for the same low wage unskilled labor?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You should care because the U.S. interventions have destabilize that region and it's one of the main reasons those countries have shytty governments that force people to look elsewhere for survival.

Boo-hoo fam.

The US takes DOCUMENTED immigrants.

Period.