there were 2 angels who disobeyed God in the heavens! :

[MMS]

anything greek related cant be trusted if im being honest we have to go by the actual hebrew liturgical language or the aramaic origin, it wouldn't make sense to go by a translation instead of the original language

the Septuagint is older than both the Peshytta and the Masoretic Text by almost 100 years

and the Quran is older than all three

beware people who teach you to distrust. It in itself is a seed but not a good one. Rather trust in the lord

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

depth to this because we have been going on about interpretations.

so to the brother he believes angels did not have sex with men/women, ... we are "sons of God".

Part of it. Another verse shows the sun, moon, and stars as the sons of god too

 

[MMS]

Yeshua is the true morning star while the creator and the heavenly hosts mockingly say " Lucifer" as in a generic great value version. Revelations 9:11 tells you that his true name is Abaddon or Apollyon(Greek).

Abaddon is a winged cherubim, not a humanoid angel. Angels are a step above humans like the angels who visited sodom. They ate,rested, and feared physical harm from the sodomites.

There are three earth ages in the bible and Abaddon rebelled against Yahweh in the first two as Lucifer and Azazel.

What I'm saying is he tricked Adam to steal his birthright and heaven access, got wind of Yahweh's endgame, transformed himself into a humanoid "angel" Azazel, corrupted men and women all the while attempting to block the arrival of Yeshua by tainting the gene pool with the other fallen angels like he did with Cain

there are things that are born of the spirit and there are things that are born of the flesh

if word is seed, then what does the line of cain represent in terms of precedents? (think Lamech, Tubal Cain etc...)

in other words, what your father did was acceptable becomes your acceptable and so forth..with each successive generation adding things and doing things the prior generation did not

this is why when they say "from the line of jesse or david" is not of an earthly line but a spiritual one

consider the persons in the bible and whos messages caused you to consider God and you will understand the meaning of this.

Enoch is a wholly allegorical story but is taken out of context (same with Revelation)

furthermore, people need to learn to read "canaan" which is a different way of reading than typical english. You must consider the passive voice when reading the old testament. I dont believe the greek churches fully understand this change of view. Thus why they avoid it in liturgy

it has do with the creation of "Golem" which is a massive rabbit hole for christians to truly consider (arbitrary people in the bible meant only to tell a veiled story IE Abraham, Jacob, Joseph etc)

 

[MMS]

Isaiah 19:14-25

14 The Lord hath mingled a perverse spirit in the midst thereof: and they have caused Egypt to err in every work thereof, as a drunken man staggereth in his vomit.

15 Neither shall there be any work for Egypt, which the head or tail, branch or rush, may do.

16 In that day shall Egypt be like unto women: and it shall be afraid and fear because of the shaking of the hand of the Lord of hosts, which he shaketh over it.

17 And the land of Judah shall be a terror unto Egypt, every one that maketh mention thereof shall be afraid in himself, because of the counsel of the Lord of hosts, which he hath determined against it.

18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the Lord of hosts; one shall be called, The city of destruction.

19 In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord.

20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

21 And the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the Lord, and perform it.

22 And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.

23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians.

24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:

25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.

There was a time where the Jewish understanding of God was not far off from the Egyptian understanding...consider how that even makes sense?

 

[BlackDiBiase]

Part of it. Another verse shows the sun, moon, and stars as the sons of god too

5 per-centers say "the moon is secondary to the sun" that God Body talk but i can now see a little about what they mean.

do you believe so or aware of that saying?

 

[MMS]

5 per-centers say "the moon is secondary to the sun" that God Body talk but i can now see a little about what they mean.

do you believe so or aware of that saying?

consider Genesis 1:14-19

and the 4th day

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1 is the foundation of all reality like concentric circles. That means what was declared in that page is actively and still happening. "And god saw that it was very good"

maybe the truth is people do not understand the full range of the functions of the Sun and the Moon (or other celestial bodies for that matter)

Possibly The Most Damning Christian Scripture That Cast Judgement Upon Islam

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

5 per-centers say "the moon is secondary to the sun" that God Body talk but i can now see a little about what they mean.

do you believe so or aware of that saying?

I heard of that saying, but that’s about it. Probably heard it in a rap song. And naw I don’t understand the phrase.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

consider Genesis 1:14-19

and the 4th day



Genesis 1 is the foundation of all reality like concentric circles. That means what was declared in that page is actively and still happening. "And god saw that it was very good"

maybe the truth is people do not understand the full range of the functions of the Sun and the Moon (or other celestial bodies for that matter)

Possibly The Most Damning Christian Scripture That Cast Judgement Upon Islam

facts.

more light than dark basically, the sun is mighty for sure.

i have been taught that the pyramids were originally constructed as a place to pray as close to the sun as possible. deep.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

I heard of that saying, but that’s about it. Probably heard it in a rap song. And naw I don’t understand the phrase.

If you have ever listened to Nore "closer (remix)" he raps :

The moon is secondary to the sun
I think I got a son but ain't sure
What's in store God there's more
Shortie said the kid mine, knockin' at my door
Could it be tryin' to be what I can be
Islam me 2-5 the army

lol maybe its that track but a lot of rappers are 5% like busta so it could be somebody else.

 

[MMS]

facts.

more light than dark basically, the sun is mighty for sure.

i have been taught that the pyramids were originally constructed as a place to pray as close to the sun as possible. deep.

the sun is bright for sure

but consider what the reflection of the new moon is (the universe)

darkness came before light as it is written

 

[BlackDiBiase]

the sun is bright for sure

but consider what the reflection of the new moon is (the universe)

darkness came before light as it is written

yep and it was a Dr Malachi York lecture where he said "God said let there be light, so God existed within the darkness".

i am phrasing it wrong but it was a dope thought.

 

[MMS]

yep and it was a Dr Malachi York lecture where he said "God said let there be light, so God existed within the darkness".

i am phrasing it wrong but it was a dope thought.

We are living in a world of illusion

All it takes to define a dimension is two points and a fold to move through the third dimension

 

[BlackDiBiase]

We are living in a world of illusion

All it takes to define a dimension is two points and a fold to move through the third dimension

could i ask you please do you pray? and do you go above prayer like certain practices?do you know about the saint anthonys bible you pray and keep with you and all prayers are answered.

you are very passionate and righteous for sure.

What is the Saint Anthony prayer?

"St. Anthony, perfect imitator of Jesus, who received from God the special power of restoring lost things, grant that I may find [name what is lost] which has been lost. ... Let me never suffer the loss of my greatest treasure, eternal life with God. Amen."

 

[MMS]

could i ask you please do you pray? and do you go above prayer like certain practices?do you know about the saint anthonys bible you pray and keep with you and all prayers are answered.

you are very passionate and righteous for sure.

i am not righteous, only God is righteous

this is my prayer:

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

Jesus Prayer - Wikipedia

Learn about Orthodoxy and Hesychasm
Hesychasm - Wikipedia

 

[BlackDiBiase]

i am not righteous, only God is righteous

this is my prayer:



Jesus Prayer - Wikipedia

Learn about Orthodoxy and Hesychasm
Hesychasm - Wikipedia

bro i like the prayer and i looked at hesychasm and oddly enough i believe that. i mean mass congregation is good and serves its purpose but prayer is the most sentimental fragile thing you can do in life and that should be treated very carefully and yeah for sure its a sacred thing. most do yoga and meditation they could do with the peace that a prayer will give you.

props.