NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
@SirBiatch you're trolling breh, you may have a point as far as rhymes (except for the god Rakim) , but there are mad albums from 80's that ride out based on production alone
@SirBiatch you're trolling breh, you may have a point as far as rhymes (except for the god Rakim) , but there are mad albums from 80's that ride out based on production alone
80' s had some avant garde production though, word to esham, Prince Paul and Larry. Smith. I guarantee those tracks bang harder in a club and have the certified shelf life to back it up/will still be played when the tracks of today expireProduction, breh?
If anything, I'd say the 80s albums are great for rhymes. You can tell the great rappers really put in thought to everything they spit.
But production? for the most part no.
For me, most of those beats don't hold repeated interest. The ones that do are amazing and the major classics we play to this day.
80' s had some avant garde production though, word to esham, Prince Paul and Larry. Smith. I guarantee those tracks bang harder in a club and have the certified shelf life to back it up/will still be played when the tracks of today expire
I still don't know what your stance is.many agree with my stance. .
Not one. Front to back. Can't do it.
The great albums that we all talk about (e.g. Criminal Minded, Great Adventures, Paid in Full, Straight Outta Compton, etc) all have 1, 2 or 3 blindly brilliant songs where EVERYTHING comes together: perfect beat, perfect flow and perfect rhymes. You've probably heard those songs already because everyone shared them and duped the shyt out of them.
But for the most part, there's stuff that feels straight up dated, out of place and/or 'filler'. Not always in a bad way. The turntablism on Paid in Full is OK at times. The innocent jokey songs like "Super Hoe" on a hardcore album.
This is a big reason why 90s rappers are so revered. They became ALBUM rappers as opposed to vinyl rappers.
Agree/disagree? And is there an 80s album you can play in full or close to full?
Yeah and we all know the albums in 2015 are better.
Do us a favor and shut the fukk up
but entire albums full of brilliant, avant garde production where every single track hits to this day?
That's all I'm getting at.
Trust me, I fux with some Larry Smith and Prince Paul production. They've made TIMELESS songs. But whole albums? top to bottom?
You don't understand album sequencing.
You ever heard Quincy Jones talk about Thriller? He purposely used some songs on the album that were worse than songs he cut from the album. He did this to make certain songs pop more.
The worst song on most 80's hip hop records are still better than 90% of shyt today though real talk.
when was that ever said in this thread? Don't get defensive.
I mean it's just dumb, every fukking album I own has a track that I'll skip.
You're trying to shyt on 80's hip hop like it wasn't good or something, which infers that subsequent decades somehow knew how to perfectly make flawless albums from top to bottom.
Stupid premise.
that may be all well and true, but it's irrelevant to this thread. Especially when you start talking about 'today'
With all due respect, read the thread. See where the discussion's going. THEN respond.
There's shyt coming out today /90's as well that had/has skippable material on it out the gate , especially in this cookie cutter erabut entire albums full of brilliant, avant garde production where every single track hits to this day?
That's all I'm getting at.
Trust me, I fux with some Larry Smith and Prince Paul production. They've made TIMELESS songs. But whole albums? top to bottom?
With all due respect, I read your topic and initial post and responded. The onus is on you for making the post you did. I'm not obligated to read 10 pages to reply to your OP.