There is No Ghost in the Shell: GITS Movie Analysis

[tmonster]

You just posted a youtube video and said probably the most incorrect thing in this thread. You should ask yourself, are yo answering what's being asked. Not all neurons are alike.

I am fully aware that not all neurons are alike, what does any of that stuff you just typed have to do with what I am saying?

 

[Poitier]

I am fully aware that not all neurons are alike, what does any of that stuff you just typed have to do with what I am saying?

The post you made to NZA may be one of the most "going out on a limb" and "factually ambiguous" things I've ever come across on the subject.

 

[tmonster]

The post you made to NZA may be one of the most "going out on a limb" and "factually ambiguous" things I've ever come across on the subject.

not it is not
not sure who the soft skull brehs you been playing with but let me give you a heads: you can't intimidate me

 

[Poitier]

not it is not
not sure who the soft skull brehs you been playing with but let me give you a heads: you can't intimidate me

I went to a top school for cognitive neuroscience, take heed.

 

[tmonster]

I went to a top school for cognitive neuroscience, take heed.

bwah ha hah
so did George Bush and plenty of other dumb fukks I have met in my travels

 

[NZA]

you have to first understand and be able to simulate the neuron and how it makes decisions and then reproduce the neurotome (the dude below calls it connectome but I have always liked neurotome) or how neurons connect to each other
there are a couple of dudes working on that that I have seen talk

Sebastian Seung is mapping a massively ambitious new model of the brain that focuses on the connections between each neuron. He calls it our "connectome," and it's as individual as our genome -- and understanding it could open a new way to understand our brains and our minds.

Sebastian Seung is a leader in the new field of connectomics, currently the hottest space in neuroscience, which studies, in once-impossible detail, the wiring of the brain.


Henry Markram says the mysteries of the mind can be solved -- soon. Mental illness, memory, perception: they're made of neurons and electric signals, and he plans to find them with a supercomputer that models all the brain's 100,000,000,000,000 synapses.

Henry Markram is director of Blue Brain, a supercomputing project that can model components of the mammalian brain to precise cellular detail -- and simulate their activity in 3D. Soon he'll simulate a whole rat brain in real time.

i dont think these videos address what i am talking about at all. i am talking about transferring one's consciousness outside of the brain and into another medium. i pretty much assume that we are going to map the brain and even be able to "read" it, but that is not the same as moving one's consciousness outside of a brain and still remaining the same living, thinking person.

 

[tmonster]

i dont think these videos address what i am talking about at all. i am talking about transferring one's consciousness outside of the brain and into another medium. i pretty much assume that we are going to map the brain and even be able to "read" it, but that is not the same as moving one's consciousness outside of a brain and still remaining the same living, thinking person.

it may be addressing and you may have answered your own question already depending on your answer to the following question
what is your definition of consciousness?

 

[DEAD7]

BSG has taught me otherwise.

 

[NZA]

it may be addressing and you may have answered your own question already depending on your answer to the following question
what is your definition of consciousness?

@Poitier knows exactly what i am talking about, but you give me two long videos that dont address the issue and then leave me a post asking me a question instead of providing clarity, breh.

 

[tmonster]

@Poitier knows exactly what i am talking about, but you give me two long videos that dont address the issue and then leave me a post asking me a question instead of providing clarity, breh.

if consciousness is based on the state of the brain(memories, neurons and neurotome) then theoretically the reproduction of the brain can lead to the reproduction of consciousness
that is what the two videos are saying and that is why I asked you that question

 

[NZA]

if consciousness is based on the state of the brain(memories, neurons and neurotome) then theoretically the reproduction of the brain can lead to the reproduction of consciousness
that is what the two videos are saying and that is why I asked you that question

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/ther...its-movie-analysis.172703/page-3#post-6634020

look at my original post and then see why everything you say is completely avoiding the issue. i am not talking about reproduction, i am talking about transferring the "authentic self" from the brain to another medium

 

[tmonster]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/ther...its-movie-analysis.172703/page-3#post-6634020

look at my original post and then see why everything you say is completely avoiding the issue. i am not talking about reproduction, i am talking about transferring the "authentic self" from the brain to another medium

I don't need to look at it
why transfer when you can just duplicate?

 

[NZA]

I don't need to look at it
why transfer when you can just duplicate?

because you are not the duplicate that is created. your consciousness ends with you. that dupe is now somebody else. clearly you do need to read it

 

[tmonster]

because you are not the duplicate that is created. your consciousness ends with you. that dupe is now somebody else. clearly you do need to read it

do you now see why I asked that question
remember when I told you this:

if consciousness is based on the state of the brain(memories, neurons and neurotome) then theoretically the reproduction of the brain can lead to the reproduction of consciousness
that is what the two videos are saying and that is why I asked you that question

I think it is you who needs to read more carefully

 

[NZA]

do you now see why I asked that question
remember when I told you this:


I think it is you who needs to read more carefully

so if you copy a brain, the brain and the copy will both be the same person at the same time?