There is absolutely no chance Jeb Bush loses the 2016 presidential election

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What states is he gonna flip against Hillary? :mjlol:
Republicans have a clear disadvantage in presidential elections now. Mitt Romney won the deep South by comical margins with white voters and it didn't matter one bit. He won the white vote by the same margin as Ronald Reagan in 1980 but still lost. In the past, democrats always tried to moderate their stances to appeal to those voters. But Obama proved that democrats can now win the presidency and not give a fukk about the South.
The GOP's southern strategy has ended at the presidential level, after 40 years of dominance.

Unlike midterms, this election can't be gerrymandered and democrats start it with at least 210 votes guaranteed (no need to even campaign for those states). Obama still would've won despite losing Ohio, Florida and Virginia!
Also, remember that Hillary will perform way better than Obama did with white women (he lost them 56-43 to Romney).
 

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^This is exactly what I mean when I say you guys continue to hype up Hillary and be WAY TOO CONFIDENT about her chances. I'm not saying she won't win, but i hate how nikkas keep acting overconfident. You all keep underestimating how much white america wants to "make america great again" with all this love affair with Trump. Dudes ain't taking it seriously. Yes Trump will win the deep south by "comical margins" just like Romney but he will also bring competition in areas such as Pennsylvania and New York.

Laugh all you want. Look at the popular vote for certain states Obama won in 2008 and 2012 and see how some of them the margin of victory was just barely a couple percentage points. With our peers(I'm assuming your young like me) aand Black people as a whole likely getting to a boiling point of being fed up with all this especially with us getting killed by cops daily and nothing happening, there is a very strong chance they will just get out of this all together in 2016. I'm telling you man you have to look at this stuff carefully. Once again I"m not saying Hillary cannot win just saying to be cautious. Check out those popular vote trends when you get the chance for specific states he won. Then add in the fact its gonna be a likely low turnout then tell me what do you think will happen since the Democrats will be missing a big part of their "base". Would they be able to get the popular vote barely just like they did years ago? Yes breh i know electoral collage wins elections just giving you something to think about.

Popular vote 2,990,274 2,680,434
Percentage 51.97% 46.59%

This was for Pennsylvania...that is not that far apart. What will happen if Black folks and young folks are not coming out to vote because they are tired of the Democrats and "voting for the lesser evil"? Yes we are only 13 percent but we do influence...

These are not states like Maine and Connecticut or New Hampshire where we can be chill since we know Hillary gonna win by double digits.
 

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What states is he gonna flip against Hillary? :mjlol:
Republicans have a clear disadvantage in presidential elections now. Mitt Romney won the deep South by comical margins with white voters and it didn't matter one bit. He won the white vote by the same margin as Ronald Reagan in 1980 but still lost. In the past, democrats always tried to moderate their stances to appeal to those voters. But Obama proved that democrats can now win the presidency and not give a fukk about the South.
The GOP's southern strategy has ended at the presidential level, after 40 years of dominance.

Unlike midterms, this election can't be gerrymandered and democrats start it with at least 210 votes guaranteed (no need to even campaign for those states). Obama still would've won despite losing Ohio, Florida and Virginia!
Also, remember that Hillary will perform way better than Obama did with white women (he lost them 56-43 to Romney).

Well Mitt did warn us he had binders full.
 

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What states is he gonna flip against Hillary? :mjlol:
Republicans have a clear disadvantage in presidential elections now. Mitt Romney won the deep South by comical margins with white voters and it didn't matter one bit. He won the white vote by the same margin as Ronald Reagan in 1980 but still lost. In the past, democrats always tried to moderate their stances to appeal to those voters. But Obama proved that democrats can now win the presidency and not give a fukk about the South.
The GOP's southern strategy has ended at the presidential level, after 40 years of dominance.

Unlike midterms, this election can't be gerrymandered and democrats start it with at least 210 votes guaranteed (no need to even campaign for those states). Obama still would've won despite losing Ohio, Florida and Virginia!
Also, remember that Hillary will perform way better than Obama did with white women (he lost them 56-43 to Romney).


The irony in that chart.. is most of the rich people live in blue states yet republicans are always blamed for looking out for the rich :mindblown:

This doesn't make sense to me. The ONLY state that stays true to alleged party lines and philosophy is Texas. Most poor people live in the deep south and are staunch republicans.. You would think those would be blue states :mjpls:

This explains why this country is in a mess.
 

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What states is he gonna flip against Hillary? :mjlol:
Republicans have a clear disadvantage in presidential elections now. Mitt Romney won the deep South by comical margins with white voters and it didn't matter one bit. He won the white vote by the same margin as Ronald Reagan in 1980 but still lost. In the past, democrats always tried to moderate their stances to appeal to those voters. But Obama proved that democrats can now win the presidency and not give a fukk about the South.
The GOP's southern strategy has ended at the presidential level, after 40 years of dominance.

Unlike midterms, this election can't be gerrymandered and democrats start it with at least 210 votes guaranteed (no need to even campaign for those states). Obama still would've won despite losing Ohio, Florida and Virginia!
Also, remember that Hillary will perform way better than Obama did with white women (he lost them 56-43 to Romney).
Bush can't flip any of those but Trump or Rubio can flip Florida, Nm, Oh, and maybe even Nv. But even then Hillary still wins
 

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^This is exactly what I mean when I say you guys continue to hype up Hillary and be WAY TOO CONFIDENT about her chances. I'm not saying she won't win, but i hate how nikkas keep acting overconfident. You all keep underestimating how much white america wants to "make america great again" with all this love affair with Trump. Dudes ain't taking it seriously. Yes Trump will win the deep south by "comical margins" just like Romney but he will also bring competition in areas such as Pennsylvania and New York.

Laugh all you want. Look at the popular vote for certain states Obama won in 2008 and 2012 and see how some of them the margin of victory was just barely a couple percentage points. With our peers(I'm assuming your young like me) aand Black people as a whole likely getting to a boiling point of being fed up with all this especially with us getting killed by cops daily and nothing happening, there is a very strong chance they will just get out of this all together in 2016. I'm telling you man you have to look at this stuff carefully. Once again I"m not saying Hillary cannot win just saying to be cautious. Check out those popular vote trends when you get the chance for specific states he won. Then add in the fact its gonna be a likely low turnout then tell me what do you think will happen since the Democrats will be missing a big part of their "base". Would they be able to get the popular vote barely just like they did years ago? Yes breh i know electoral collage wins elections just giving you something to think about.

Popular vote 2,990,274 2,680,434
Percentage 51.97% 46.59%

This was for Pennsylvania...that is not that far apart. What will happen if Black folks and young folks are not coming out to vote because they are tired of the Democrats and "voting for the lesser evil"? Yes we are only 13 percent but we do influence...

These are not states like Maine and Connecticut or New Hampshire where we can be chill since we know Hillary gonna win by double digits.
Its not that anyone is hyping Hillary up as much as it is a case that pretty much anyone the Dems nominate is going to have a really good shot at winning a general Presidential election handily. It is just the make-up of the electorate and the system we are operating under that doesn't bode well for Republicans.

And on that Pennsylvania situation...Hillary tends to do well with the white working class voters who never warmed to Obama (think Western PA rural types who are not dyed in the wool GOP voters) so she could conceivably pick up with those voters any of the "urban" vote she might lose.
And young voters are going to come out just for the history making aspect of it. By next summer, if Clinton is the nom, the marketing for pushing the opportunity for the voters of this country to continue to show they are willing to break barriers and vote in the first woman president will be at an all-time high and the kids love to be involved in "making history".
 

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I disagree. the west side of the state is progressing in numbers and influence while Detroit has shrunk dramatically over the past two election cycles and has plateaued at best. Michigan has a two term Republican governor...its turning into a battleground state
Some wishful thinking :laugh:
Maryland and Massachussets also have republican governors.
 

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why is this wishful thinking for me?

you think I want a republican president? :mjlol:
Well, it seems so.
Michigan is the most democratic state in the Midwest after Illinois. Romney didn't even bother campaigning there even though it was his birthplace, his dad was governor there and state unemployment was close to 10 percent.
The weirdest thing is how much coverage the election gets all over the country even though there's no race for over 80 percent of the electorate.
You're basically a spectator if you don't live in OH, FL, VA, NC or NV.
At least you don't have to worry about non-stop political ads on tv:blessed:
 

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I disagree. the west side of the state is progressing in numbers and influence while Detroit has shrunk dramatically over the past two election cycles and has plateaued at best. Michigan has a two term Republican governor...its turning into a battleground state
Having a Republican governor means nothing. There have been plenty of blue states with Republican governors.

MI hasn't gone red since the first Bush in 1988. 6 straight presidential elections going Dem makes it a blue state until further notice. There is no reason or evidence to suggest otherwise, especially considering the country overall is favoring Dems in presidential elections demographically
 

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Well, it seems so.
Michigan is the most democratic state in the Midwest after Illinois. Romney didn't even bother campaigning there even though it was his birthplace, his dad was governor there and state unemployment was close to 10 percent.
The weirdest thing is how much coverage the election gets all over the country even though there's no race for over 80 percent of the electorate.
You're basically a spectator if you don't live in OH, FL, VA, NC or NV.
At least you don't have to worry about non-stop political ads on tv:blessed:

Having a Republican governor means nothing. There have been plenty of blue states with Republican governors.

MI hasn't gone red since the first Bush in 1988. 6 straight presidential elections going Dem makes it a blue state until further notice. There is no reason or evidence to suggest otherwise, especially considering the country overall is favoring Dems in presidential elections demographically
the gubanatorial movement in michigan was more a way to support my argument that the state's populous is going red. The real reason I believe this isn't because of some movement in the people's opinions in michigan, more of the a change in the PEOPLE in michigan and their power. As I said, grand rapids is slowly becoming a force nearing the political power of detroit, and they are an old, voting population.The money there is very old and very very long.

I still say its vulnerable to become an ohio-esque battleground state.
 

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the gubanatorial movement in michigan was more a way to support my argument that the state's populous is going red. The real reason I believe this isn't because of some movement in the people's opinions in michigan, more of the a change in the PEOPLE in michigan and their power. As I said, grand rapids is slowly becoming a force nearing the political power of detroit, and they are an old, voting population.The money there is very old and very very long.

I still say its vulnerable to become an ohio-esque battleground state.
Romney's dad was governor and he was considered a moderate. He still wasn't even competitive there.

Why then would the people vote for some right wing nativist nut like Trump or Carson, or some garbage ass bum like Rubio?

Plus Hillary does better with working class whites and white women in general than Obama. She'll win MI by double digits.
 
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