There is absolutely no chance Jeb Bush loses the 2016 presidential election

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Romney's dad was governor and he was considered a moderate. He still wasn't even competitive there.

Why then would the people vote for some right wing nativist nut like Trump or Carson, or some garbage ass bum like Rubio?

Plus Hillary does better with working class whites and white women in general than Obama. She'll win MI by double digits.
fair analysis.
 

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The "reagan democrats" are extinct. Obama winning MI, IA, WI and OH twice was already a clear indicator of that.
Btw, republicans win gubernatorial or senate races in blue states only during midterm elections. In presidential elections, the turnout is typically up by 25% and people vote straight ticket.
Republicans are defending 24 Senate seats next year, including in states that will go blue like IL,WI,NH,PA,NV and CO... Remember Scott Brown?
 

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the gubanatorial movement in michigan was more a way to support my argument that the state's populous is going red. The real reason I believe this isn't because of some movement in the people's opinions in michigan, more of the a change in the PEOPLE in michigan and their power. As I said, grand rapids is slowly becoming a force nearing the political power of detroit, and they are an old, voting population.The money there is very old and very very long.

I still say its vulnerable to become an ohio-esque battleground state.

Ehhhh, I wouldn't draw that conclusion. A couple of posters have already pointed out that typically blue states end up with Republican governors all of the time. For example, Chris Christie easily won reelection in New Jersey a few years back. Yet no one would seriously entertain the thought of NJ going Republican in next year's presidential election.

State level elections are a different beast than presidential elections. The factors effecting the results of those contests tend to be different from the factors effecting the presidential election.
 

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