The Zionist Jews and Jewish Community Attack on Tamika Mallory is Disgusting

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I'm saying that your entire post presupposes that the information in The Protocols.... was/is accurate which is circular reasoning and is the basis for the majority of the Anti-Jewish posts and feelings in this thread and many others on this site.
Your entire post reminds me of a section of Haddasa's book wherein she talks about the book's influence on Hitler and his regime during a trial in Berne, Switzerland back in 1933. The defendants (Nazis and their sympathizers) used the exact same reasoning you are using now.
They lost.

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rambling tactic doesn't work with me. Coincident or not?
 

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xoxodede said:
First, what are you trying to say? Are you saying that the "Curse of Ham" was not used in defense and as one of the main reasons for Blacks to be enslaved?

No. I'm saying the Jews (as a whole) didn't push anything like that. Rich, land-owning Caucasian Europeans did. The two are NOT synonymous.​

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2. Sure, but where did they get it from? The Hamitic myth was out and about way before the TransAtlantic Slave Trade -- it was only popularized and used to support the enslavement of Africans. And some of those "European Whites" and White Spaniards -- were Jews BTW.

It didn't work. If it had, then there wouldn't have been ANY 'slave revolts'. Also, the vast majority of slaves didn't believe it affected them in the first place as the text specifically states that it was placed on Ham, not his descendants. People assume the slaves were ignorant/stupid when that couldn't be further from the truth. They weren't buying into that garbage eisegesis 'masters' tried to ram down their throats. The overwhelming majority of Jews had nothing to do with the slave trade. That's like saying because a few Black people are pushing drugs in the 'hood, ALL Black people are responsible for the proliferation of drugs in our neighborhoods. Utter and complete nonsense.​

xoxodede said:
Do you think I don't know there are Black Jews? But, those Black Jews are treated like shyt by White jews -- they don't even respect them as being a "jew." Never have - never will.

Black Jews are not treated like shyt by other Jews. Immigrants are treated like shyt by citizens. Citizens don't respect immigrants. See how that works? Hell, you can see it in America right now thanks to Trump/MAGA.​

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3. Apparently not.

Then you haven't been paying attention.​

xoxodede said:
4. Great for you. I don't post nor subscribe to "garage scholarship."

What you've posted in this thread shows otherwise.​

xoxodede said:
There were no lies posted -- other than the books and scholar you tried to reference.

Nothing I posted was false or a lie.​

xoxodede said:
Yes, I love and respect Farrakhan -- and he isn't anti-anything -- he is truth.

That's nice, but the fact of the matter is that he manipulates data and calls it the 'truth' and that makes him just as bad as those he criticizes.

We are better than that.​
 

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No. I'm saying the Jews (as a whole) didn't push anything like that. Rich, land-owning Caucasian Europeans did. The two are NOT synonymous.​



It didn't work. If it had, then there wouldn't have been ANY 'slave revolts'. Also, the vast majority of slaves didn't believe it affected them in the first place as the text specifically states that it was placed on Ham, not his descendants. People assume the slaves were ignorant/stupid when that couldn't be further from the truth. They weren't buying into that garbage eisegesis 'masters' tried to ram down their throats. The overwhelming majority of Jews had nothing to do with the slave trade. That's like saying because a few Black people are pushing drugs in the 'hood, ALL Black people are responsible for the proliferation of drugs in our neighborhoods. Utter and complete nonsense.​



Black Jews are not treated like shyt by other Jews. Immigrants are treated like shyt by citizens. Citizens don't respect immigrants. See how that works? Hell, you can see it in America right now thanks to Trump/MAGA.​



Then you haven't been paying attention.​



What you've posted in this thread shows otherwise.​



Nothing I posted was false or a lie.​



That's nice, but the fact of the matter is that he manipulates data and calls it the 'truth' and that makes him just as bad as those he criticizes.

We are better than that.​


No. I'm saying the Jews (as a whole) didn't push anything like that. Rich, land-owning Caucasian Europeans did. The two are NOT synonymous.

No group does anything as a whole -- but the key leaders and decision makers do -- and YES many did push the myth. Because they held Anti-Black views - they admit it.

This anti-black sentiment began to take hold in Medieval Europe. Once it did, European and Middle Eastern Jewry did little to fight it; in fact, they embraced it. Rabbis such as Nathaniel ibn Yeshaya and Zechariah ben Solomon ha-Rofe began incorporating the Hamitic myth into their writings. And by the 18th century (as illustrated above by the Me-am Loez) the 6th century sources were being translated with a definitively anti-Black skew that has continued to be taught to this very day. Source: The Curse of Ham: The Commentary on this Week's Parsha That Created a Racial Myth

You want to put the key blame about the Hamitic myth on the White people during Colonial and Antebellum who used the myth as justification to enslave and practice Chattel Slavery. But they are not who created it. Yes, they are the blame for popularizing the myth and Chattel Slavery -- but as I stated -- the Hamitic myth was created, began and is rooted in Judaism -- White Judaism.

I say "White" Judaism -- because it came from the Babylonian Talmud. Most Black Jews - do not follow the Talmud - as it is inherently Anti-Black. The Rabbi's who used the Talmud over the Torah.

Even Jews admit this... The Curse of Ham: The Commentary on this Week's Parsha That Created a Racial Myth

Instead, this myth is the work of set of ambiguous Talmudic statements, translated by later medieval European and Middle Eastern commentators who, upon viewing through the lens of their society, applied the burgeoning creed of anti-Black racism where it was not originally intended or implied. The chief and earliest evidence of the myth can be found in Sanhedrin (108b)

There is no substantiation for the assumption that Ham was cursed to be black, until you apply the 11th century commentary of Rashi who explained the Sanhedrin line as:

…smitten in his skin…i.e., from him descended Cush (the negro) who is black-skinned.


And...

He explains how this was done through the biblical commentaries of Radak (1160–1235) and Abarbanel (1437–1508). These two Sephardic commentators parallel the “curses of Ḥam” and the Kushytes [Descendants of the biblical Kush, son of the biblical Ḥam] as perpetual in nature, hence condemning them to eternal enslavement. Schorsch argues that medieval Jewish sources applied the curse of the biblical Canaan to all of Ḥam’s descendants. The sum of the matter is that scholars agree that the myth of the “Curse of Ḥam” did not always exist, but reflects an amalgamation of ideas and interpretations of Jewish texts between the eleventh and eighteenth centuries.

Source: The Conception of the Curse of Ḥam among Sephardic Jews and the Atlantic Slave Trade
 

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No. I'm saying the Jews (as a whole) didn't push anything like that. Rich, land-owning Caucasian Europeans did. The two are NOT synonymous.​



It didn't work. If it had, then there wouldn't have been ANY 'slave revolts'. Also, the vast majority of slaves didn't believe it affected them in the first place as the text specifically states that it was placed on Ham, not his descendants. People assume the slaves were ignorant/stupid when that couldn't be further from the truth. They weren't buying into that garbage eisegesis 'masters' tried to ram down their throats. The overwhelming majority of Jews had nothing to do with the slave trade. That's like saying because a few Black people are pushing drugs in the 'hood, ALL Black people are responsible for the proliferation of drugs in our neighborhoods. Utter and complete nonsense.​



Black Jews are not treated like shyt by other Jews. Immigrants are treated like shyt by citizens. Citizens don't respect immigrants. See how that works? Hell, you can see it in America right now thanks to Trump/MAGA.​



Then you haven't been paying attention.​



What you've posted in this thread shows otherwise.​



Nothing I posted was false or a lie.​



That's nice, but the fact of the matter is that he manipulates data and calls it the 'truth' and that makes him just as bad as those he criticizes.

We are better than that.​

I'm sorry - but I had to make sure I responded to this....

YES - Black jews are treated like shyt by White Jews. They don't care if they are "immigrants" or natives -- if they don't have white skin -- and can't be classified as "white" by looking at them -- they are treated like trash - or non important. Stop it.

Even in America - Black Jews complain about it. This is one of many I could post.







The overwhelming majority of Jews had nothing to do with the slave trade. That's like saying because a few Black people are pushing drugs in the 'hood, ALL Black people are responsible for the proliferation of drugs in our neighborhoods. Utter and complete nonsense.


No, you sound off. Well, the majority of "White" people didn't have anything to do with Slavery as well -- but a damn good amount of them did. And even the ones who didn't -- they allowed it to go on.

Same for Jews -- who were also White - did as well. You do know that many Black Natives have 3-10% Ashkenazi Jewish DNA -- and you know why right? And being that most of our ancestors weren't IR dating -- and don't subscribe to it -- that would mean- those "White' enslavers were also Jewish.

See Judah P. Benjamin: Judah Benjamin

And... it's SO many resources - not even referenced by Farrakhan and NOI - that highlight their role in the trade.

But, you are clear on acting like they have no major role -- when in fact - they played a part -- and the issue is them acting like they didn't.

Jews Mostly Supported Slavery — Or Kept Silent — During Civil War
Read more: Jews Mostly Supported Slavery — Or Kept Silent — During Civil War

As Jewish historian Dale Rosengarten expresses it, quoting a Talmudic precept: “The law of the land is the law of the Jews.” From a modern perspective, it seems anomalous that a people whose history hinged on an epic escape from servitude would not have been deeply troubled by America’s “peculiar institution” — but few were.

Some Jews owned slaves, a few traded them, and the livelihoods of many, North and South, were inextricably bound to the slave system. Most southern Jews defended slavery, and some went further, advocating its expansion.

Notable among these was Judah P. Benjamin, labeled by the abolitionist Ben Wade, who served with Benjamin in the U.S. Senate, as “an Israelite with Egyptian principles.” Even in the North, many sympathized with the South and only a very few were abolitionists. Almost all Jews sought peace above all else. Until the war was at hand, they remained silent on the subject.


Jews And Negro Slavery In The Old South - 1789-1865 : Bertram Wallace Korn : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Korn wrote twelve books on American Jewish history, the most famous being American Jewry and the Civil War, (1951). In 1962 he was named visiting professor of American Jewish history at the New York campus of Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion; in 1970 he was named to the same position at Dropsie University in Philadelphia. He also served for a period as president of the American Historical Society.

Several of his books explored Jewish history in the American South.

Other works by Korn include:



JEWS AND NEGRO SLAVERY IN THE OLD SOUTH, 1789-1865: Address of the President
JEWS AND NEGRO SLAVERY IN THE OLD SOUTH, 1789-1865: Address of the President on JSTOR

"Becoming Southern: The Jews of Savannah, Georgia, 1830-70
https://cedar.wwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1044&context=library_facpubs
 
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xoxodede said:
YES - Black jews are treated like shyt by White Jews.

Immigrants are treated like shyt by citizens.
xoxodede said:
No, you sound off.

You sound as if your argument is failing....because it is. There were millions of Jews but relatively few of them were heavily involved with the trade. To say that the minority view/activity is demonstrative of the majority view/activity would be a logical fallacy.....one of many you've committed thus far.​

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But, you are clear on acting like they have no major role -- when in fact - they played a part -- and the issue is them acting like they didn't.

False. Your statement is a strawman. I have not stated at any time that they did/did not 'play a part'. The problem is you and Farrakhan condemn an entire population for the actions of a few. That's exactly how racists think.

The rest of your post is just rehashing the same tired rhetoric. If a few of them took part in something reprehensible, that doesn't mean the entire population is condemnable for their actions. If that is the case, then women should imprison ALL males post puberty since some of us like to rape them.​
 

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Immigrants are treated like shyt by citizens.

You sound as if your argument is failing....because it is. There were millions of Jews but relatively few of them were heavily involved with the trade. To say that the minority view/activity is demonstrative of the majority view/activity would be a logical fallacy.....one of many you've committed thus far.​



False. Your statement is a strawman. I have not stated at any time that they did/did not 'play a part'. The problem is you and Farrakhan condemn an entire population for the actions of a few. That's exactly how racists think.

The rest of your post is just rehashing the same tired rhetoric. If a few of them took part in something reprehensible, that doesn't mean the entire population is condemnable for their actions. If that is the case, then women should imprison ALL males post puberty since some of us like to rape them.​

We just have to agree to disagree. Because, all of your responses are just....... I can't anymore.
 

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None of those "Black intellectuals" referenced in the tweet are going to come to her defense. Most of them were quiet as church mice when Angela Davis was targeted.Black press was quiet too. We tracked that story and outside of Roland Martin, I don't recall Black media even covering the story.
A few weeks ago, MA threw most of her credibility out of the window when she wrote this

Opinion | None of Us Deserve Citizenship

she put this on her twitter earlier.

Censored Documentary Exposes the Israeli Government's Attack on Black Lives Matter | The Grayzone

long read but i'm glad i read it, cause those few paragraphs i've bolded are key.

now picture us deciding who future israeli leaders are and working to drive a wedge between them and their established leadership. this is the beginning of the new cointelpro, but in soft language.
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“The major problem with Israel is with the young generation of the black community — Black Lives Matter starts there,” stated Judith Varnai Shorer, the Israeli consul general in Atlanta, Georgia.

Shorer boasted that she and other government officials were taking decisive measures to drive a wedge between established black community leadership and the new generation gravitating towards Black Lives Matter.

“I had last week a sit down dinner at my house for forty people which I considered the leadership of the black community,” the Israeli diplomat recalled. “Many very important people [were there]. They can be part of our doing and activities.”
 

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They coming at her over Russell Simmons now.

When Women’s March Leader Tamika Mallory Backed Russell Simmons, She Betrayed Women Like Me

Unfortunately, Mallory’s troubling support of violent men doesn’t stop with Farrakhan. She also continues to be a friend and ally of Russell Simmons, a man who has been accused of rape by at least eight women, myself included.

I actually know Sil Lai, the woman who wrote the piece. Though, I respect her and her work as a journalist. And I understand, support and empathize with her over her alleged claim against RS. I still stand with Tamika.

I will tell you one thing -- which I think you already know. This story and negative press against Tamika and the Women's March -- equals traffic - traffic equals money -- and a great article rate. She (Sil Lai)-- pitched (a white/gen media outlet) -- and they accepted the pitch.

A great check and link to add to her bylines.
 
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Only one person in this conversation is rambling and it ain't me, chief.

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...and still you can't answer. But yet this theory has been "refuted multiple times, beginning in 1921." I find it hard that a casual like me is the first or only, to conclude that it takes great wealth and media control in order to achieve what I listed

So clearly you find it difficult to uphold narratives while reflecting facts. Which is a common problem with identity politics because either the group member or their apologist uses the group's "plight" to claim an ism, inorder to fend off any attempts of accountability of a group member's action

In order to weaponize an ism, a "plight" needs to occur at least one time, so it can be minimized or exaggerated. Same with stereotypes, in order to weaponize stereotypes, an act must occur at least one time, so it can be minimized or exaggerated

You not being able to answer such a simple question is because it would take juelzing of infinity stone proportions to disconnect similar acts, by same group, that occurred at least once in the late 19th century, middle 20th century and in the early 21st century

In other words, you want to use the entire group's "plight" to deflect from holding the few accountable for their actions

bubu it's anti-semetic to acknowledge the manipulation/access of US politicians by AIPAC use of media and money, despite a few politicians having press conferences arguing about the need to pass Jewish favored legislation, while federal workers are waiting for a check
 

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Isaiah Bradley said:
...and still you can't answer. But yet this theory has been "refuted multiple times, beginning in 1921." I find it hard that a casual like me is the first or only, to conclude that it takes great wealth and media control in order to achieve what I listed

Nothing to answer as your question is voided by history. Jews, as a whole, don't have 'great wealth' or power. If they did, there'd be at least 6 million more of them right now.

The rest of your assertions are typical of the propaganda that's been part and parcel of the 'Jewish Conspiracy' and has NO factual basis other than circular reasoning that's been in-existence since the Middle Ages.

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fukking ridiculous how the people who get coddled the most and practically have the world in their hands cry foul and play victim the most. :gucci:

It's just another money grabbing hustle for these smallhats.

We had a REAL holocaust that lasted HUNDREDS OF YEARS. Them muthafukkas went through a few years of pain and even then it wasn't even close to being as bad as what we had to go through.

So I don't give a fukk about no little ugly ass, cucumber nosed bytch called Anne Frank when millions of young black girls was being raped and abused on the daily. :manny:

They got compensation up they asses and we yet to see a red cent of reparations for ours, so fukk 'em. :manny:
 
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