The Young Turks has a massive argument about how trans issues are hurting democrats

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People have been saying this for years and she hasn't. It's the problem with the progressive movement. You have to agree on every asinine issue or you're a "traitor". Some issues are just losing issues
Nah she's definitely leaning more right these days, but it's a result of progressives jumping down her throat for not being on code over the trans shyt.

Exact same thing happened to JK Rowling, she said some sensible shyt about trannies and people jumped on her for it. Now she's right leaning over that one issue.


Democrats gotta let that shyt go, most people think it's weirdo shyt.
 

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What % are Trans people to the rest of the population??

You need to know these stats in order to calculate and measure and manage potential risk by taking on certain causes.
There aren't enough trans to risk everything for, they're not the hill the Dems needed to die on.
Dems just started going ham for everybody lgbt. But then those crazy fukks start splintering and looking down on the other alphabets. All those other alphabets try to distance themselves from trans.

All that shyt needs to go back to being looked at as mental illness
 

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Nah she's definitely leaning more right these days, but it's a result of progressives jumping down her throat for not being on code over the trans shyt.

Exact same thing happened to JK Rowling, she said some sensible shyt about trannies and people jumped on her for it. Now she's right leaning over that one issue.


Democrats gotta let that shyt go, most people think it's weirdo shyt.
And it's why I say Dems are willing to die on these random social hills that don't cost money. You'll die on a Trans hill but not minimum wage.
 

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Dems just started going ham for everybody lgbt. But then those crazy fukks start splintering and looking down on the other alphabets. All those other alphabets try to distance themselves from trans.

All that shyt needs to go back to being looked at as mental illness

You can't save everybody, and that's that truth Dems failed to grasp..just do enough by everyone and don't champion new issues over traditional ones.

Now if you're a liberal leaning person you're automatically seen to be partial to gays, fags and all their weird denominations. :snoop:
 

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You can't save everybody, and that's that truth Dems failed to grasp..just do enough by everyone and don't champion new issues over traditional ones.

Now if you're a liberal leaning person you're automatically seen to be partial to gays, fags and all their weird denominations. :snoop:
I knew Dems were fukked when Michelle Obama cosigner DWade and that crap they got goin on.
 

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If you have to sacrifice people or minority groups to win politics, then you dont deserve to win or govern. There are two major political parties, one is vehemently anti LGBTQ and anti black and anti immigration, we dont need the only other viable political party to act as republicans 2.0 to get support, biden was a strong supporter of transgender and gay americans and won the most votes in american history, its the candidates and the environment. When mitt romney lost the election to obama people were saying the conservatives have to let go off their tough stance on social policy issues , yet trump won being further extreme on social issues than romney was, its about the enviroment
 

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I'm not saying that democrats have to abandon trans people just deemphasize that shyt. Defend them where it matters but be the party for workers, education and upward mobility. A lot of average people now think that's one of the main things liberals stand for and they're not exactly wrong an easy way to get clout in leftist spaces is being trans. The obsession with identity, victimhood and perceived privilege has always been mocked by outsiders. Most people aren't introspective and most aren't watching Rupaul's drag race as a family so all this trans rhetoric making it to normies is not landing and its been that way for a while. Leftest have harassed anyone who didn't agree with them online and sometime IRL.

Anytime TYT used to post videos complaining about transphobia it would be more dislikes than likes anytime they complained about Dave Chapelle more dislikes than likes. Anytime a guy like Bill Mayher was being 'transphobic' more likes than dislikes and comments like I used to be liberal but...and finally a liberal talking sense! because the advocacy of that group and them forcing themselves into the conversation has been annoying. They were forced and over represented in media and they became content and an easy layup for grifters to make a career out of being "brave enough" to against them. JK Rowling used to be mocked for changing Dumbledore gay and advocating for a black Hermini she just didn't like how the word woman was being erased to be more inclusive and made her thoughts publicly known immediately she was attacked legacy questioned and kicked to the curb. Problem was JK has fukk you money so she accepted her role as a villain and has been an outspoken opp ever since and is as known for being their rival as she is for writing wizard books. Articles trying to tear her down only for the comment sections to overwhelmingly support her.
 

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This is something ive been talking about because it is one of the biggest issues brought up by people on the right. Less than 1% of the population, most people have NEVER met a trans person, most trans kids are not transitioning young, yet people fixate on them. They also completely ignore that there are trans men (ive met several due to the nature of my work. You would not know they were trans just looking at them.)

Trans rhetoric only hurts because of hateful ass right wingers. It literally is one of those things that does not effect most peoples lives but people in the country are willing to bush all common sense over it. Im not shocked though because gay panic and trans panic has literally been used by every regime led by strong men. Mussolini made a whole ass island for gay men, Hitler made persecution a platform, and we have what we have now. Nothing that will solve your problems, but a platform that will ruin a lot of peoples lives and a bunch of idiot bigots who will sign off on it cause they are “tired of the gay shyt.” And that quote is verbatim what these cats say.
 

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Those other 2 white dudes are 100% wrong cause I PERSONALLY know people who didn't wanna fukk wit Harris or Democrats cause of the trans shyt. Also her campaign was extremely women focused and not economic focused. Also too much pandering to Gen Z. Having Megan The Stallion n all kinda shyt like that. Grown ass people don't wanna see that bullshyt. They want solutions to their issues. nikkas wanna be able to buy homes. Pay rent. Buy food. Etc etc. And I'm saying this as someone who voted for Harris.
 

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What's extra frustrating about this is that 2.7 points is the difference between Kamala going to the White House and this disaster we have now
Yup, while she was blown out, it was more about losing by small margins everywhere, rather than by large amounts in a few places. There were multiple paths for her to win but yea…elections are won and lost ob small margins. The hate campaign and the ghost of inflation did her in.
 
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