The Wheel Of Time - Robert Jordan's Books (Season 2/9.1.23)

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Considering Wheel of Time is the most generic mashup of every fantasy/chosen one cliche and trope you can think of, there was nothing that they could've done to change that aspect of it with it being something completely different. There's nothing deeper to look into, it's just a fun, simple Final Battle story with a gazillion characters, a long journey (half of them only to meet new characters) and a greater world to delve into.

Nynaeve and Mat are the 2 that's the most faithful to their book counterparts. If you don't like her at this point, nothing will change that going forward.
GRRM said WoT was a genre defining series and a masterpiece along with dozens of notable writers and venerated critics but yeah, I'll take random Coli Breh Take #37654.

As far as S3, this show is a loosely adapted fan fiction abomination and once you accept that, you can enjoy it for whatever it's trying to be this season. Pike deserves better but this did result in her redoing all the audiobooks so that's a W.
 

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GRRM said WoT was a genre defining series and a masterpiece along with dozens of notable writers and venerated critics but yeah, I'll take random Coli Breh Take #37654.

As far as S3, this show is a loosely adapted fan fiction abomination and once you accept that, you can enjoy it for whatever it's trying to be this season. Pike deserves better but this did result in her redoing all the audiobooks so that's a W.
Dude, that doesn't mean it's not a generic mashup of every single chosen-one fantasy trope you could think of. The first book came out in '90, so by that time if you had seen Star Wars and all of the Sword & Sorcery flicks of the 70's & 80's along with the 60's stuff, and read the pulp fantasy stories of the 30s & 40s, the swashbuckling tales older than that, some mythology...you can see it all in there. And I love the books. It comes together beautifully, and it has far more moving parts than damn near every other story combined. That's what makes it special - you spend a lot of time with a good 50 or so characters, and watch their arcs develop independently..that and the mythology it built itself on.

For example, in Book 1 when they try to do the whole "which of these characters is the chosen one?" derailment. If you knew of any of the fantasy-chosen one tropes, you knew who it was after the first page. If it you still second guessed, you knew by chapter 2 while they were still trying to do the switch-and-bait. The show tried to do it as well, but it was so obvious to anyone that knew the genre.

All I was saying to that poster was that if they weren't a fan of that genre or all of the tropes, the show wasn't for them. Because it's an amalgam of them, so for them to change the style, tone, tropes is to remove the basic plot points and change it into something completely different.
 

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I'm loving this show now. Season 1 was bad, until the final couple of episodes. Once they decided to loosely adapt the books, the show became better. Episode 1 of the new season was wild.

Onto episode 2

And where is Tom Merrilin
 
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I think this show does a really good job of following multiple arcs without making any plot feel as if it’s being shorted or favored over another one.

Right now we have:
Rand. & Moraine in the Waste
Perrin back in the Two Rivers
Liandrin doing her thing
Matt, Nyneave, and Elayne tracking the Black Ajah
White Tower drama

The fact that they’re able to jump between all those in a single episode is pretty impressive to me.
 

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I’m really liking this show now. I rewatched season 1 and it wasn’t as bad since I watched it without my book expectations this time.

I really hope they get to finish this series but I don’t really see the show talked about by too many people.
 

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This was the best episode of the series so far. This is the 1st they didn’t really jump around and it paid off so Rhuidean wasn’t dragged out for 2 episodes. Lan and Avienda sparring at the beginning was dope. I say sparring because I doubt Alan was fighting to the death and Avienda still had her mask down.

Seeing the origin of the Tinkerers and Aiel, and Lanfear fukking shyt up was all good.
 
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