The Weeknd: The Official Thread

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anybody picking a copy up?

Yeah. My burned CDs are getting worn out from playing them so much. It'd be nice to get a replacement.

Am I, like, the ONLY guy who liked House of Balloons the least? Not that it was anything close to a bad album, but the sequencing lets the music down ("Coming Down" should have been the last song on there, in my opinion. "The Knowing" was fine as a closer, I guess, but "Loft Music" was unneeded), and the other albums just have stronger concepts and better execution in my opinion. When I recently did a list of my favorite albums of 2011, with a one-album-per-artist limit, Echoes of Silence was the EASY choice for me of the three. I loved the album, but I barely considered House of Balloons as a top 10 candidate.

What is it that people see in HoB that I seem to be missing?
 

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If you're not fukking with the weeknd like that I would say it's just not your taste, no shots. It's trippy, *almost* portishead like production (on sohh i got murdered for this, JUST A COMPARISON) and his voice isn't so much him singing but an instrument with all the studio work that goes into it. It's the song-writing that shines. It's absolutely not r&b so i have no idea how 156k first week usher could have "killed his buzz" when they're different artists anyway. Weeknds demographic is 20 somethings who do molly and pain killers and party a lot...or 14 year old girls. Neither are in usher's demographic IN 2012
 

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Yeah. My burned CDs are getting worn out from playing them so much. It'd be nice to get a replacement.

Am I, like, the ONLY guy who liked House of Balloons the least? Not that it was anything close to a bad album, but the sequencing lets the music down ("Coming Down" should have been the last song on there, in my opinion. "The Knowing" was fine as a closer, I guess, but "Loft Music" was unneeded), and the other albums just have stronger concepts and better execution in my opinion. When I recently did a list of my favorite albums of 2011, with a one-album-per-artist limit, Echoes of Silence was the EASY choice for me of the three. I loved the album, but I barely considered House of Balloons as a top 10 candidate.

What is it that people see in HoB that I seem to be missing?

Now the sequencing of songs was great. Coming down went perfectly after the party/after party. The only song that was out of place was wicked games because of the feelings over the girl. But the album was a great blend of get high, party till we pass out, wake up, do it all over again. Thursday was his most conceptual album, when he was literally telling the story of a relationship with a particular girl. EOS was kinda of week to me. The DD while good was meh, dont want to hear MJ remakes. Plus there was way too many tracks of him bragging like he was trey songs and slow piano ballads that lack the energy/mood of his previous two. Thats why I'm glad Doc is back in the fold. I hope he reconciles with Rose also.
 

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i deleted Thursday. aside from The Zone, shyt got no play from me. HOB and EOS are still :ahh: and as a person who has no twitter his personality is something that i dont care bout. i just want music.
 

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Now the sequencing of songs was great. Coming down went perfectly after the party/after party. The only song that was out of place was wicked games because of the feelings over the girl. But the album was a great blend of get high, party till we pass out, wake up, do it all over again. Thursday was his most conceptual album, when he was literally telling the story of a relationship with a particular girl. EOS was kinda of week to me. The DD while good was meh, dont want to hear MJ remakes. Plus there was way too many tracks of him bragging like he was trey songs and slow piano ballads that lack the energy/mood of his previous two. Thats why I'm glad Doc is back in the fold. I hope he reconciles with Rose also.

You're right about "The Party and the After Party" and "Coming Down" fitting well together, I'm just saying that those two songs would have been a fantastic way to close the album. You hear those two songs, then it immediately goes to "Loft Music"? Why? It kind of killed the mood of the album for me. You could cut "Loft Music" (One of his weakest tracks) and "The Knowing" (Great, yet misplaced) and really lose nothing at all. You'd have a tighter 37 minutes there, rather than a tight 37 minutes followed by a semi-pointless 12.

To me, the bragging had a very calculated point on Echoes of Silence: It was a way for the character to assure himself that he wasn't as pathetic and able to be played as the women he abused for his own pleasure. "Same Old Song," "The Fall" and "Next" work perfectly as self-denial that gets ripped apart on the title track where all of that gets exposed when the chick is leaving HIM and HE'S begging rather than the other way around. Everything in the damn trilogy and especially that album ("D.D." works here too, as it's a recontextualization within the narrative of the Balloons trilogy rather than just a straight cover period. Plus, it just seems like you don't like it because it's an MJ cover rather than the fact that it was bad or anything, which smacks of bad criticism to me. No disrespect) built to that one song. THAT'S how you work sequencing on an album.

Aesthetically, it's much more fleshed out, affective and lush in it's sounds to me than the previous two albums. And yet, it had a lot of nuance that the more bombastic House of Balloons didn't have. I thought the production of all three fit the themes (HoB: Introduction to the poisonous character of the songs and his tendencies. Thursday: More personal narrative showing the repercussions of his actions on those women he plays, as well as how he reacts to it. This, in my opinion, is why this album is much more subdued and empty in its production. EoS: Motivations are revealed; shyt stops being fun and starts destroying lives and he starts reflecting, ending with his own tricks being played on him and a role reversal). I just liked EoS the most and thought its concept was the most well fleshed out.

(Goddamn, this got long...)

Nice to see McKinney back, but don't hold your breath on Zodiac coming back. I would, however, like to see Abel do something with Clams Casino. "The Fall" was fantastic, and the Instrumentals series has been nothing but a pleasure to listen to. I think they could mesh very well over the course of an album.
 

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i deleted Thursday. aside from The Zone, shyt got no play from me. HOB and EOS are still :ahh: and as a person who has no twitter his personality is something that i dont care bout. i just want music.

What is it about Thursday that repels people? Serious question. I thought that it was actually better as an album than House of Balloons was. Maybe even had the best song between the two ("The Birds Pt. 2").
 

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It's just not as grabbing on first listen, in my opinion, as soon as I heard the opening few seconds of 'The Morning' I was in, same with 'Wicked Games', 100%, 'Party And the After Party' too, though the second part had to grow on me too, which is so odd because now I LOVE that half. I think the tracks are just a little more flashy and polished, as opposed to the layered and murky tracks on 'Thursday'.

The title track and 'The Zone' are my two favorites from 'Thursday'. And while I see why the title one had to grow on me, I have no idea why I didn't like 'The Zone' from the beginning. Same with 'Outside', which might be my favorite Weeknd track ever, or close. I'm sure mood, setting, all that effects your first impressions. 'Echoes of Silence' leaked right around Christmas, but didn't revisit it until April or something when I was dying for new Weeknd music.
 

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HOB is legendary status to me. The more I listen to it, the better it is. Coming Down :ahh:
Yup, The Birds Part 2 on Thursday>>>>>>>>>Every other song on that mixtape put together. I'm going to listen to EOS more than just Montreal again this weekend.
 

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Now the sequencing of songs was great. Coming down went perfectly after the party/after party. The only song that was out of place was wicked games because of the feelings over the girl. But the album was a great blend of get high, party till we pass out, wake up, do it all over again. Thursday was his most conceptual album, when he was literally telling the story of a relationship with a particular girl. EOS was kinda of week to me. The DD while good was meh, dont want to hear MJ remakes. Plus there was way too many tracks of him bragging like he was trey songs and slow piano ballads that lack the energy/mood of his previous two. Thats why I'm glad Doc is back in the fold. I hope he reconciles with Rose also.

I dunno man I disagree even with all the party tracks and fukking bytches there's always a subtext type deal that this is all because he had a woman do him real dirty in the past so now he gets back at woman.


In fact we should get rich yung in here he has some pretty good insight/analysis on the weeknd and the substance behind the ecstasy coke and bytches on HOB, obviously this becomes more apparent in thursday and is confirmed on tracks on EOS.
 

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It's just not as grabbing on first listen, in my opinion, as soon as I heard the opening few seconds of 'The Morning' I was in, same with 'Wicked Games', 100%, 'Party And the After Party' too, though the second part had to grow on me too, which is so odd because now I LOVE that half. I think the tracks are just a little more flashy and polished, as opposed to the layered and murky tracks on 'Thursday'.

The title track and 'The Zone' are my two favorites from 'Thursday'. And while I see why the title one had to grow on me, I have no idea why I didn't like 'The Zone' from the beginning. Same with 'Outside', which might be my favorite Weeknd track ever, or close. I'm sure mood, setting, all that effects your first impressions. 'Echoes of Silence' leaked right around Christmas, but didn't revisit it until April or something when I was dying for new Weeknd music.

I always find that to be a really weird reason why people favor one album over another. Most of my favorite albums from last year (James Blake, looking at you) were albums that utterly confused me at first listen. I'd have to shut it off for a bit, come back with new perspective, then listen to it a few more times to get it. I dunno, I guess that I actually like doing the work of deconstructing an album and its sound, and Thursday and Echoes of Silence gives me much more of an opportunity to do that than House of Balloons does. If it reveals itself to me too quickly, without me doing work to derive something from it, then what should I do for repeat listens? (Albums do overcome this. I'm not so sure House of Balloons completely succeeds at this, though)

I think to really appreciate the sound of Thursday, you have to appreciate the negative space of a song. The points where nothing really happens but ambient sounds, at best, and the weight that such a lack of activity has. Also, you have to appreciate how subdued everything really is, which might have been hard for most because House of Balloons was so (necessarily) hi-def in its presentation, whereas Thursday was very much on a lower, darker register with less happening in its songs. I appreciate the work of examining the latter than the upfront presentation of the former.

Then again, I was also seemingly the only guy around who LOVED "Gone" and its sparse electronica and vocal manipulations (I thought it was more interesting than anything on the previous album, especially coming after the emotional peak of "The Birds"), so maybe I'm just a weird fukk to most. Take this as you will.
 
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