The Weeknd - Hurry Up Tomorrow (Discussion Thread)

[EzekelRAGE]

But who buys album merch for albums they aren't interested in?

In an era where majority of people consume music through streaming platforms, i don't see the issue with bundling merch and wacky colored vinyls to encourage people to spend money.

Think of it like this. Weekend has merch for the og trilogy, he bundles After hours album with it though, at no extra cost. Let's say I love the og trilogy so buy it, but hate the After Hours album, that now counts as a sale when it probably wouldnt be one.
Another issue was artists were apparently forcing album bundles into tickets sales. So if you going to a concert that has a setlist with mostly old stuff, you now count as an album sale for the new album.

This the tweet from billboard when they first changed the rules.


Which circles back around to the current sales for the weeknd. If ppl "opted in" to get the album in these bundles, it seems like they actually wanted the album, so it shouldnt be a big deal.

I saw a press release from Universal saying the Weeknd had sold over 75 million records.....how are they calculating that?

Even if all his albums went "Diamond", which they didn't, he would only be at around 60 million.

The way they do all these stats is just all bullshyt. Not that it really matters, marketing and sales is all smoke and mirrors.

By records, they probably mean singles or singles and albums together.

 

[re'up]

Think of it like this. Weekend has merch for the og trilogy, he bundles After hours album with it though, at no extra cost. Let's say I love the og trilogy so buy it, but hate the After Hours album, that now counts as a sale when it probably wouldnt be one.
Another issue was artists were apparently forcing album bundles into tickets sales. So if you going to a concert that has a setlist with mostly old stuff, you now count as an album sale for the new album.

This the tweet from billboard when they first changed the rules.


Which circles back around to the current sales for the weeknd. If ppl "opted in" to get the album in these bundles, it seems like they actually wanted the album, so it shouldnt be a big deal.




By records, they probably mean singles or singles and albums together.

Singles as in streams or people who bought a song on Itunes or wherever for $.199?

 

[Gustavo J]

Got tickets to the Atlanta show

 

[Fani Willis fan]

I saw a press release from Universal saying the Weeknd had sold over 75 million records.....how are they calculating that?

Even if all his albums went "Diamond", which they didn't, he would only be at around 60 million.

The way they do all these stats is just all bullshyt. Not that it really matters, marketing and sales is all smoke and mirrors.

Singles count as albums on streaming. He sold 75 mil including both full albums + singles.

 

[derro13]

No top 10 hit. Thats what happens when you heavily rely in bundles.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Is the weekend just all synths these days?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Singles as in streams or people who bought a song on Itunes or wherever for $.199?

Both. Like 1k streams of a song counts as a sale.

 

[Nokids]

man Kiss Land was so under rated.




You will probably never see another pop star do a full blown witch house song

Bro!! This one of my favorite weekend songs especially with that beat switch but this was my fav off the album

 

[southpawstyle]

Kiss land is amazing

 

[Ziggiy]

I really don’t see what the “controversy” is with the sales on this particular album. If he’s got fans who opted to buy the physicals over streaming shouldn’t that be seen as a GOOD thing? Taylor Swift put out 5678 different physical bundles of her latest album to sell a Million first week and nobody batted an eye lash.

 

[Ziggiy]

1. That’s a drake stan page, so grain of salt about it being bad.
2. Thought billboard removed bundles?
3. If they didn’t remove them then

Billboard re-changed the rules two years ago.

Bundles now count as long as fans can also buy the bundled items separately and the bundle has to cost at least $4 more than the separate item.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Billboard re-changed the rules two years ago.

Bundles now count as long as fans can also buy the bundled items separately and the bundle has to cost at least $4 more than the separate item.

So definitely shouldnt be an issue then. Like I said earlier, the tweet posted saying the sales are "not good" is one of the top Drake stan pages on socials. So of course they gonna try and shyt on it.

 

[5n0man]

It’s not a problem but a lot of the time the people aren’t paying any attention to the music and just want merch . 130k number means that’s how many streams we know for just the album.

Who the fukk buys merch for music they didn't listen to?

And I feel like the way streaming numbers are counted is worse than merch bundles. A bigger problem to me is different versions of albums to encourage fans to buy more than once.

This weeknd album only has 11 tracks on the physical release so he can sell the shyt twice. That’s far more egregious than giving out shirts and stickers with albums.

 

[5n0man]

Think of it like this. Weekend has merch for the og trilogy, he bundles After hours album with it though, at no extra cost. Let's say I love the og trilogy so buy it, but hate the After Hours album, that now counts as a sale when it probably wouldnt be one.

Does this actually happen tho? I've never seen album merch that wasn't themed after the album.

Another issue was artists were apparently forcing album bundles into tickets sales. So if you going to a concert that has a setlist with mostly old stuff, you now count as an album sale for the new album.

I don't even have a problem with this

Neither of those situations is as bad as the funny way streaming numbers are manipulated and counted.

 

[re'up]

That's a product of social media insanity. Hyper categorizing something and making it into a "thing" for clicks. As far as bundles and merch, who even cares what the album sold? He's a 100 million artist.

But, the way they are calibrating everything is laughable. 75 Million albums sold. That is pure marketing. People just say whatever and there's no real meaning to any of it anymore, it's pure smoke and mirrors.

I saw a real estate agent brokerage the other day, and I am sure she does well, she's pushing an X5, has her own team, but there's a sign outside the office that says more than 5 billion dollars sold. In SAN DIEGO? In the last two years? In EAST COUNTY? Maybe.