The way I remember it, when NWA were in their prime Public Enemy was always bigger.

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No hate...Just the way I remember it.


and u cant bring up album sales because as time has gone by NWA components had rebirths giving NWA material new life while PE pretty much fell of by 1993 with no rebirths aside from Flav doing reality TV in the mid 2000's. But during their primes both NWA and PE were neck and neck sales wise.



1988: It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back


1) Bring The Noise: Antrax said 'we wanna re do this' and Ice Cube said that they jacked the same beat for "fukk The Police" because they were trying to be PE.



2) Dont Believe The Hype: Although "fukk The Police" is a motto that has lasted longer and is more popular, this motto is still prevalant in this social media era of 'click bait stories' and 'fake news.'


3) Terminator X On The Edge Of Panic:
No video and still one of the most recognized PE songs of all time. How genius was it to take another song (Rebel Without A Pause) and spin it backwards to make another dope song. This song was heavy in the streets in 88


4) Night Of The Living Baseheads;
The counter to NWAs "Dope Man." The visual of this video really brought home the problem with the crack epidemic in the 80's


5) Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos:
The Game, Canibus and Kool G Rap had to jack this beat later down the line. This song has one of the most popular opening lines in Hip Hop history.


7) Security Of The First World:
This song gave Madonna a hit with "Justify My Love." This song had Madonna acknowledging.


8) Rebel Without A Cause:
Probably the one song that defines Public Enemy. No video yet very popular in the streets. Remembers how estatic Combat Jack was when describing how hard this song was in the streets in 1988 to Chuck D.

9) "show em whatcha got"
This was the song that inspired Wreckx N Efxs "Rump Shaker" and Jay Zs comeback song "Show Me What You Got.



10) Anyone who was there will tell you that PE had the bigger album that year. This was the album that started all that quoting Malcolm X, Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson and other Black leaders




1989


1) Flavor Flav is the most popular rapper in 89...Period. Go head and try if u want but there is no denying that Flavor Flav was the most popular rapper in 1989. The crazy look, the big clock, the dancing...all of this made flav stand out from everyone else





2) VH1 Once said that "Fight The Power" was the greatest hip hop song of all time. The anthem of Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing" The classic line about Elvis and John Wayne getting cheers from the crowd in the video. By the time this song and video hit PE were the leaders of the consious movement of the golden era. NWA had "Express Yourself" popping around this same time and it was hot but it wasnt on the level as "Fight The Power"



3) Eazy E ended the song "All In The Same Gang" because he was the hottest rapper repping real hip hop from the west. But when it came to the song that started it all , there's a reason KRS had PE end the song "Self Destruction" Chuck and Flav were the only ones who could properly end a song of such magnatude.



4) Had the best rapper from NWA jumping ship and switching sides





1990: Fear Of A Black Planet



1) 911 Is A Joke:
a big song in 1990 and another popular motto. It was Jazzs' favorite song till Carlton ruined it.

2) Classic album cover and one of the most thought provoking album titles.


3) The first popular social media site named after this album....Thats called "influence."


4) Cant Do Nothing For You Man: The party didn't start at Plays house in "House Party" until this song started playing. Had pops screaming out the window about a 'Public Enema.'



5) Cube went to PEs production crew for his 1st album while having both Chuck D and Flav on the album.



6) Cube jacking "Welcome To The Terrordome for Jacking For Beats and saying that was his "crew"



7) PE had the bigger album that year over NWA. And when you listen to '100 Miles And Running' you cant help but to acknowledge that the beat was influenced by PE with its "loudness sound."






1991



1) Mike Tyson entering the ring of the Tyson vs Ruddock fight with "Welcome To The Terrordome" in the background. Considered one of the best enterances in boxing history. Ruddock left the ring that night with a broken jaw.





2) NWA had the better album this year but the hype up until PEs album was real big. And MTV had PE videos in heavy rotation. Videos of slave rebellions and Slave masters raping Blackwomen. The vivid visuals yet MTV gave it the green light while most of NWAs videos were banned. In all honesty, we wouldnt see the influence of nikkaz4Life until years later with the likes of Redman and 2Pac.




3) John Singleton rocking the PE T-Shirt throughout the set of filiming Boyz N The Hood while anyone rocking a Eazy E T-shirt got the beats.:mjlol:

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4) This took PE to another level. One of the biggest blockbuster movies that summer was promoting the hell out of Public Enemy. This was another reason why the 91 album was so hyped up. Bottom line, The PE logo was more popular by 1991 over NWAs logo.

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1994:


PE has officially fallen off and NWA has broken up but Gangster Rap has taken over and the conscious era is dead. The "Parental Advisory" influence is now more popular and the movie "Menace II Society" would put the emphasis on it when Stacy would stress that "Black Power shyt dont get no play in this ride." Everyone remembers the impact of The Chronic in 93 and hardly anyone remembers the Public Enemy album that dropped in 94. But all throughout NWAs reign, PE was always bigger.
 
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Dawg....just say you like PE more than NWA and leave it at that. :pachaha:

Calling Flavor Flav the most popular rapper of 1989 is stretching it, though. I think you're confusing "most recognizable" with "most popular". nikka wasn't even really a rapper at that point, just the hypeman.
 

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Dawg....just say you like PE more than NWA and leave it at that. :pachaha:

Calling Flavor Flav the most popular rapper of 1989 is stretching it, though. I think you're confusing "most recognizable" with "most popular". nikka wasn't even really a rapper at that point, just the hypeman.




So who was the most popular rapper in 89?

Tone Loc? Young MC?

Who?

If we go by the coli's standards you'd probably say The DOC :mjlol:


And you saying Flav isn't a rapper makes me question your knowledge on PE all together :jbhmm:

He wasnt a rapper by 89? So why did he do this song in 88?

 

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And you saying Flav isn't a rapper makes me question your knowledge on PE all together

:stopitslime:
I said he wasn't a rapper AT THAT POINT. How many LEAD songs did Flav have in 89? How many solo? 911 Is A Joke didn't even DROP as a solo joint until almost Summer 1990....like, WTF are you even TALKING about with this revisionist shyt?

The fact that you think he was the biggest rapper in '89 shows me that YOU DON'T know anything about rap or clearly have just now come to it in the past couple of years or so.

Why don't you put it to the rest of the forum?:

Will anyone who is old enough to know come in here and cosign OP that Flavor Flav was the most popular/biggest rapper of 1989?
 
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Dawg....just say you like PE more than NWA and leave it at that. :pachaha:

Calling Flavor Flav the most popular rapper of 1989 is stretching it, though. I think you're confusing "most recognizable" with "most popular". nikka wasn't even really a rapper at that point, just the hypeman.
was about to say.. De La & Beastie Boys were alot more popular back in '89..:patrice:

same year DOC dropped if i remember correctly..:jbhmm:
 

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was about to say.. De La & Beastie Boys were alot more popular back in '89..:patrice:

same year DOC dropped if i remember correctly..:jbhmm:


De La was not more popular then no PE in 89 :stopitslime:


You trying to say DOC was more popular then Flav in 89? :mjpls:


Lets just be honest here...Flav was more popular then everyone in PE including Chuck D. When they did the Fight The Power video in Harlem it was all eyes on Flav.
 

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why do u insist on making dumb azz threads based on your warped East coast bias

NWA debut album was a nationwide hit

While P.E bum rush the show was a CERTIFIED FLOP

even though in my opinion it was a good record

It flopped....

Nobody in the streets was bumping it

It wasn't till IT TAKES A NATION lp that P.E got CAME

and even then they were NOT bigger than NWA
 
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