The Walking Dead(Comics, TV Show and Videogames)*Spoilers*
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Does anyone else get the feeling that Kirkman is gonna drag these non-Zombie storylines out in the comics indefinitely? Where else can he go from there if he does wrap up this Negan plot? Yet another bad guy, but even meaner than the Gov and Negan? Wash. Rinse. Repeat. He's playing with the same deck of cards.
Comic and Show are not even about the Walkers anymore. The Zombies could all "die off" and Kirkman could still keep these storylines about rival groups going. I wish he would incorporate the Walkers INTO the conflicts, not separately from them. I wish there was a way he could open up the scope of the book while still holding on to what keeps bringing people back each issue.
IDK...That last issue:
which makes the book unique, not these miscellaneous side characters on the Hilltop.
Your thoughts?
Does anyone else get the feeling that Kirkman is gonna drag these non-Zombie storylines out in the comics indefinitely? Where else can he go from there if he does wrap up this Negan plot? Yet another bad guy, but even meaner than the Gov and Negan? Wash. Rinse. Repeat. He's playing with the same deck of cards.
Comic and Show are not even about the Walkers anymore. The Zombies could all "die off" and Kirkman could still keep these storylines about rival groups going. I wish he would incorporate the Walkers INTO the conflicts, not separately from them. I wish there was a way he could open up the scope of the book while still holding on to what keeps bringing people back each issue.
IDK...That last issue:
didn't even have a single zombie
Your thoughts?
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Well, I guess they'll find more survivors and try to kill all the zombies & get life back to normal. There's not much else to do. Since everyone becomes a zombie when they die, zombies will never go away. I really like this proposition. Thank you BASED Kirkman.
i'm surprised they haven't tried to get their hands on a plane or a helicopter yet. that could take the story into a completely different direction.
All of these various communities leaves the comic open for a lot of different directions. The entire concept of "the kingdom" blew my mind when I first read that issue...
I could see the comic pick up, in a different part of the country from the beginning... Just tell a different story with different characters in a different state... Like New Orleans, or Los Angeles... Once they wrap it up with these characters, Star over with a new group...
Yea I had similar concerns.
mind you, I stopped watching the tv show months ago because i aint down with that racist black submissive bullshyt. so that shyt been outta sight outta mind for me regardless of what they may or may not be doing with the zombies there.
but, in regards to the comics,
the way they ended that whole prison complex/governor storyline was raw as hell and emotionally draining lol. like if it was a tv show (
) that would be the season finale and we'd get a 30 second preview right after of how next season would be the 'climatic final season of rick's journey'. we'd see a preview of crazy/depressed rick, abraham and that fat guy with the 'master plan' talkin about heading to washington (or wherever it was), morgan's reemergence etc..
like thats literally how i felt after the governor's storyline: like they had done all this character building, laid waste to it in a blaze of masterful fukkery, and now there's nothing left but to wrap shyt up one way or another, and bring everything to a close. and i thought the fat man with the radio would be the catalyst for that.. and i apologize b/c i forget his name.
but once the DC plan was shown to be a hoax that the fat man made up and there was nothing really there... well the next storyline in the town they settled in was still cool to me.. but it was around then or maybe after it that things began getting stale. Like Negan is funny as hell and i like that this storyline is picking up.. but just like how I felt they cut Lee's story a little too short in the video game (i would've liked for him to continue on for another season or 2 with Clemintine) I feel they're kinda just milking Rick's story at this point.
) that would be the season finale and we'd get a 30 second preview right after of how next season would be the 'climatic final season of rick's journey'. we'd see a preview of crazy/depressed rick, abraham and that fat guy with the 'master plan' talkin about heading to washington (or wherever it was), morgan's reemergence etc..like thats literally how i felt after the governor's storyline: like they had done all this character building, laid waste to it in a blaze of masterful fukkery, and now there's nothing left but to wrap shyt up one way or another, and bring everything to a close. and i thought the fat man with the radio would be the catalyst for that.. and i apologize b/c i forget his name.
but once the DC plan was shown to be a hoax that the fat man made up and there was nothing really there... well the next storyline in the town they settled in was still cool to me.. but it was around then or maybe after it that things began getting stale. Like Negan is funny as hell and i like that this storyline is picking up.. but just like how I felt they cut Lee's story a little too short in the video game (i would've liked for him to continue on for another season or 2 with Clemintine) I feel they're kinda just milking Rick's story at this point.
But i realized that 'the walking dead' will prob have no end in sight (or no explanation/solution for the zombies), and that's not necessarily a bad thing at all. perhaps its for the better depending on how you feel about going down such a path.
i do think at some point though, if the series is going to avoid such a path, that they need to go ahead and give Rick a proper send off (either in death or some sort of relatively peaceful ending), and start up with another character, perhaps in another city, state or region.
Yea I had similar concerns.
mind you, I stopped watching the tv show months ago because i aint down with that racist black submissive bullshyt. so that shyt been outta sight outta mind for me regardless of what they may or may not be doing with the zombies there.
but, in regards to the comics,
the way they ended that whole prison complex/governor storyline was raw as hell and emotionally draining lol. like if it was a tv show (
like thats literally how i felt after the governor's storyline: like they had done all this character building, laid waste to it in a blaze of masterful fukkery, and now there's nothing left but to wrap shyt up one way or another, and bring everything to a close. and i thought the fat man with the radio would be the catalyst for that.. and i apologize b/c i forget his name.
but once the DC plan was shown to be a hoax that the fat man made up and there was nothing really there... well the next storyline in the town they settled in was still cool to me.. but it was around then or maybe after it that things began getting stale. Like Negan is funny as hell and i like that this storyline is picking up.. but just like how I felt they cut Lee's story a little too short in the video game (i would've liked for him to continue on for another season or 2 with Clemintine) I feel they're kinda just milking Rick's story at this point.
But i realized that 'the walking dead' will prob have no end in sight (or no explanation/solution for the zombies), and that's not necessarily a bad thing at all. perhaps its for the better depending on how you feel about going down such a path.
i do think at some point though, if the series is going to avoid such a path, that they need to go ahead and give Rick a proper send off (either in death or some sort of relatively peaceful ending), and start up with another character, perhaps in another city, state or region.
exploring another region with other characters is a good idea, however i think this could be done without killing off Rick...maybe just let things happen without us seeing it as another story is told and then bring them together somehow...then later tell the story of what happened to them to bridge the gap.
Rick embodies the series too much to off him like that.
oh, and young Carl needs to get some p*ssy.
Yea, this is along the lines of what i'm thinking. Not saying its definitely time to conclude with Rick and the gang (or whats left of the OG gang).. but eventually i'd like to see something like this.
I agree but think Kirkman has gone on record saying he doesn't plan to do that. He's says we're sticking with the original group, or whatever's left of them, until the end of the comic's run. If Rick dies, we'd just continue with Carl, etc...But you bring up an interesting idea. Imagine if he branched it out like Stephen King did in The Stand. Like we see survivors in London or California or Iraq, simultaneously as the group here and they eventually connect somehow.
Yea I had similar concerns.
mind you, I stopped watching the tv show months ago because i aint down with that racist black submissive bullshyt. so that shyt been outta sight outta mind for me regardless of what they may or may not be doing with the zombies there.
but, in regards to the comics,
the way they ended that whole prison complex/governor storyline was raw as hell and emotionally draining lol. like if it was a tv show (
like thats literally how i felt after the governor's storyline: like they had done all this character building, laid waste to it in a blaze of masterful fukkery, and now there's nothing left but to wrap shyt up one way or another, and bring everything to a close. and i thought the fat man with the radio would be the catalyst for that.. and i apologize b/c i forget his name.
but once the DC plan was shown to be a hoax that the fat man made up and there was nothing really there... well the next storyline in the town they settled in was still cool to me.. but it was around then or maybe after it that things began getting stale. Like Negan is funny as hell and i like that this storyline is picking up.. but just like how I felt they cut Lee's story a little too short in the video game (i would've liked for him to continue on for another season or 2 with Clemintine) I feel they're kinda just milking Rick's story at this point.
But i realized that 'the walking dead' will prob have no end in sight (or no explanation/solution for the zombies), and that's not necessarily a bad thing at all. perhaps its for the better depending on how you feel about going down such a path.
i do think at some point though, if the series is going to avoid such a path, that they need to go ahead and give Rick a proper send off (either in death or some sort of relatively peaceful ending), and start up with another character, perhaps in another city, state or region.
Yeah I might be done with the show now too, especially after that finale. It was a joke. And the comic isn't much better lately, for all the reasons we both stated.
Also I never thought Kirkman was that great of a writer, he just writes a lot. I hate flipping pages of the comic and just see LONG AZZ MONOLOGUES from every character. More words than damn artwork. Kirkman's good at coming up with "oh shyt" moments, that's about it. The rest is just filler and characters constant debating or constantly giving long speeches. The prison plotline was the "90s Rap" golden era of the Walking Dead. I keep reading hoping he might get back to that.
Anyway, to your point, in the comic:
I LOVED when the DC plotline came up. I was like FINALLY, they have a mission or a goal. Then it was a fake and went back to the same routine. Sidenote: I agree about the video game, Lee should have been around for another season.
It's getting boring. Think about this: That Prison Storyline had MAD subplots in it. All the drama with the prisoners AND the Governor?! That was crazy. Now the story is just a one trick pony. The biggest sub-plot they have now is that one dude kinda likes Andrea and is salty that he got rejected. WTF?! That's it? The rest is ALL Negan related.
And we've seen this all before. Here's how it usually goes:
We need to find a home...Hey, We found a "perfect" place...We have to protect this place...The place is finally protected...ZOMBIE BREACH!...Characters die...Pick up the pieces...A new external human threat...we have to protect this place...We prepare for war...ATTACK!...Characters die...Pick up the pieces...We need to find a new home...Repeat from beginning.
He's need to change it up. I don't think random dudes with pet Tigers is enough to be honest.
This cover for issue #112 might an indication that the game is about to change right here
...or it could be a fake-out. Covers are meant to do that.
...or it could be a fake-out. Covers are meant to do that.
Yeah that is a good point... Carl taking over as the main character eventually... In issue 109 it even looked like Carl hit a growth spurt somewhat. This could turn into something truly epic. They've handled this concept perfectly so far. But they are definitely running out of ideas... If they find a way to make zombies even more threatening that would be interesting as well. Further mutations of the infection, or newly infected "creatures", etc. They haven't had to deal with threats of actual animals
Yeah that is a good point... Carl taking over as the main character eventually... In issue 109 it even looked like Carl hit a growth spurt somewhat. This could turn into something truly epic. They've handled this concept perfectly so far. But they are definitely running out of ideas... If they find a way to make zombies even more threatening that would be interesting as well. Further mutations of the infection, or newly infected "creatures", etc. They haven't had to deal with threats of actual animals
That a good point, with so little food out there you would think there would be more wild feral animals around.