The Underappreciated Genius Of K-Rino's Song Deprogrammed

[Jack Don the G]

Ruler keep bringing up Lupes artsy fart line.

While the same song he is hyping here is on a album that include a line like:

"Make me mad, I'm on that ass like diaper-rash"

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

"Every idea and dream he ever dreamed
Told my secretary Jean to bring me a nectarine"



I wonder how Juicy would have sounded if K-rino had wrote it.


"It was all a dream
I used to read Word Up magazine while eating a nectarine,
Salt'n'Pepa and Heavy D up in the limousine,
robots outside shooting laser beams."

And why is this nikka eating a nectarine while performing a delicate medical procedure? I'm sure that's a regulatory violation that could endanger his license. I guess that's why he's a pep boy and not a doctor.

 

[dirty_yo]

Every @The Ruler 09 thread becomes a roasting session

Can't you fellas just leave him alone like you did @the rhyme king ? The guy is obviously dysfunctional (or a troll). No offense

 

[The Ruler 09]

Lmao.

Motherfukkers are so stupid it goes beyond belief , talking about "pretentious" in a STORY concept song where he's playing a ROLE . This is like someone doing a concept track as Jack The Ripper and the criticism being he's too "ruthless" lol. It isn't actually real and he's not a real doctor, sorry to break it to you lol, it's a role. People just trolling as usual, it's funny though.

 

[Jack Don the G]

The joke is.. I used to write rhymes like this when I was 15. Particularly after the Matrix came out. But then I realized my flow was garbage and I wasn't saying anything profound.

Songwriting is a skill. Writing rhymes is far more poetry than prose. K-Rino's track is essentially prose spoken out loud. Respectfully, that makes it trash. And it's not even good prose.

Full sentences tend to sound terrible in rap. Especially one right after the other. It kills the intensity of the song.
In addition, this dude starts off several bars in a row using conjunctive adverbs.
"As my thought", "Then I stood", "Then I told"...
Conjunctive adverbs can be clunky. Using them to start a sentence kills the immediacy of what's happening. Instead of saying "then I told him: xyz", just say "xyz" (the actual dialogue). Remove the fluff.

Great rhyming is more about being vivid and having 'darts' of imaginative shyt. Evocative phrases.

Compare how much more fluid this is:

Here come the vultures, the Mobb-laced potent rap shyt
Perhaps, kid, make it happen, start the flipping
You fukking comic, who you kidding?
My nikka's laughing, blood bathin, the world's greatest
In-famous crime-zanous
To interfere would be dangerous
Plane descent, stand clear, save your strength

That stuff is miles ahead of what K-Rino's doing.

Hope that helps.

"They waited for me to respond, still I wasn't moving
They entertained the thought that I had let my tactics break me
They did everything in their power to resuscitate me
One of them read the bible as I laid there idle
And multiple devices were used to check the vitals
They shocked me, medicated me but still wasn't recovering
They worked to bring me back a whole hour but still nothing
Then grateful for my sacrifice and all of my devotion
They drove me 700 miles and placed me in the ocean
I floated out to sea as they cried and started grieving
They stayed the entire evening, said some words before leaving
They travelled home mourning the demise of the doctor
Returned to the facility to empty out their lockers
They came back to the building walked inside and nearly lost it"

All in the span of 30 seconds.

Think being a lyrical genius only have to do with being able to rhyme words together, brehs.

And there is nothing complex about the song, concept wise.

Who the fukk was sitting on the edge of their seat, wondering how the song would end?

WOW, what a twist! He survived! I couldn't believe it.

 

[The Ruler 09]

There's nothing deep or intellectually stimulating about it to me. It's deep and intellectually stimulating to you.

Reading Friedrich Nietzsche is intellectually stimulating to me. Listening to smartdumb raps from 45 year old Jiffy Lube techs is intellectually stimulating to you.

Regarding Primo, Bun B or whoever liking K-Platypus, that has zero relevance to this discussion. That is something called an "argument from authority," which is a logical fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I don't expect someone who thinks this lame ass song is "genius" to be too keen on the study of logic though.

But seriously, why do you literally get MAD at people for not liking your favorite rapper? Do you realize how bytchmade that is?

Lol I know more about him than you. It has a lot of relevance to the discussion because you are trying to pain a false picture which is clearly disproven, because people who actually have credibility on the topic disagree with you and agree with me. So it completely has relevance as it shows how it's YOU with the problem and the like, people who actually know what they are talking about in regards to Hip Hop know what the truth is. Lol at get mad, why would I get mad? I don't care, K-Rino has a solid core fan base which means he can do what he does, what some ignorant clown like you on the internet says is absolutely irrelevant to me.

So, do you actually want to show and prove in regards to the lyrics then? Let's see you write some lyrics and we can see who's better, as I said I will put 5's up on this minimum. You can all join together , all you clowns and I will still embarrass you.

 

[Jack Don the G]

Lmao.

Motherfukkers are so stupid it goes beyond belief , talking about "pretentious" in a STORY concept song where he's playing a ROLE . This is like someone doing a concept track as Jack The Ripper and the criticism being he's too "ruthless" lol. It isn't actually real and he's not a real doctor, sorry to break it to you lol, it's a role. People just trolling as usual, it's funny though.

Wow, thanks for clearing that up Ruler. That was the part we all had missed. We where shytting on the song cus we actually thought he was saying he is a doctor that literally is placing his patients in "great situational simulator's".

The song makes so much more sense now!

You truly most the on a higher intellect level if you could spot the song wasn't actually real.

 

[The Ruler 09]

"You cats got it backwards, you say real is wack
And the fake shyt, that's GOOD!"



Pretty much sums up the robots in here.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Wow, thanks for clearing that up Ruler. That was the part we all had missed. We where shytting on the song cus we actually thought he was saying he is a doctor that literally is placing his patients in "great situational simulator's".

The song makes so much more sense now!

You truly most the on a higher intellect level if you could spot the song wasn't actually real.

Well, don't make critiques that pertain like it was a real song then. He's playing a character, simple motherfukkers lol. It's a concept song, he has plenty of songs that are non concept songs too, this is a particular song about a particular concept. So simple minded and mundane lol, I'll reply to the bullshyt in bits as and when I can.

 

[Yoda]

There's nothing deep or intellectually stimulating about it to me. It's deep and intellectually stimulating to you.

Reading Friedrich Nietzsche is intellectually stimulating to me. Listening to smartdumb raps from 45 year old Jiffy Lube techs is intellectually stimulating to you.

Regarding Primo, Bun B or whoever liking K-Platypus, that has zero relevance to this discussion. That is something called an "argument from authority," which is a logical fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I don't expect someone who thinks this lame ass song is "genius" to be too keen on the study of logic though.

But seriously, why do you literally get MAD at people for not liking your favorite rapper? Do you realize how bytchmade that is?

READ THIS AGAIN RULER

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Every @The Ruler 09 thread becomes a roasting session

Can't you fellas just leave him alone like you did @the rhyme king ? The guy is obviously dysfunctional (or a troll). No offense

Yeah I think he may be mildly autistic.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Lol I know more about him than you. It has a lot of relevance to the discussion because you are trying to pain a false picture which is clearly disproven, because people who actually have credibility on the topic disagree with you and agree with me. So it completely has relevance as it shows how it's YOU with the problem and the like, people who actually know what they are talking about in regards to Hip Hop know what the truth is. Lol at get mad, why would I get mad? I don't care, K-Rino has a solid core fan base which means he can do what he does, what some ignorant clown like you on the internet says is absolutely irrelevant to me.

So, do you actually want to show and prove in regards to the lyrics then? Let's see you write some lyrics and we can see who's better, as I said I will put 5's up on this minimum. You can all join together , all you clowns and I will still embarrass you.

Aaaaand he completely ignores what I said about the argument from authority logical fallacy and the link I provided.

 

[The Ruler 09]

If you think it's pretentious
It is a little heavy handed with the message
But vapid?
Are you sure that's the word you meant to use? Can a song be both pretentious and vapid?
His rhyming and the execution of the story/concept is definitely impressive though.

Even a critique on pretentiousness doesn't have much merit, because it's a story track where he's playing a role. Of a genius/doctor, it's a fantasy type track, not based in reality, reality is the backdrop of the song. Obviously the character has some pretentiousness, the last line is...

"that's why your the student and I'm the master" Lol.

It's supposed to be heavy with the message, that's what the song is about, he has countless songs that are not as message dominant, particularly in this vain. But why would a message/concept/story track not have a message to it? It's illogical lol.

I'm not sure he knows what vapid means, as the track is anything but vapid. Like I said, anyone can like or dislike any track, but to say it's trash shows a complete lack of knowledge and understanding about lyrics and Hip Hop in general. It's not like the bars are Soulja Boy level.

This is why there's some issues within Hip Hop because someone can do a concept/creative track and by the foolish ignorant negative segment it is met with ridicule, contempt and bitterness because they feel intimidated by it. So they downplay it for this reason, also it attacks people like them, that are brainwashed, you look at the herd mentality here of the sheeple and bandwagon dikkriding it's very evident. All the ignorance only gives more credence to the song. Was very much expected, and duly delivered, it's predictable lol, they do it with anything, look how certain posters for instance come into lets say any KRS-One thread and hate, like Tall Israeli, IR etc, anything positive they immediately and automatically hate upon, anything intelligent is like their antithesis and arch enemy so their default status is to hate on it.

 

[mobbinfms]

Reading Friedrich Nietzsche is intellectually stimulating to me. Listening to smartdumb raps from 45 year old Jiffy Lube techs is intellectually stimulating to you.

Now that's pretentious

That is something called an "argument from authority," which is a logical fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Seems it would be fine for subjective opinions though, based on that Wikipedia article. They say it's a fallacy for establishing facts.

Yeah, I do find most hip-hop nowadays to be vapid. Most hip-hop and most music in general is not intellectually stimulating,

Not much else needs to be said then. I get your point, I just don't judge music by those standards.

"Every idea and dream he ever dreamed
Told my secretary Jean to bring me a nectarine"

That line was awful.
I almost turned the song off.
It's still a dope song though
Wack beat, nectarines and all

 

[The Ruler 09]

Aaaaand he completely ignores what I said about the argument from authority logical fallacy and the link I provided.

Didn't even click the link, I already said why I mentioned the people I did, because you were trying to paint a false incorrect inaccurate picture, lol at you trying to act like you know more than the people I named lol. It's funny. I noticed after several repeated invitations though you don't wanna SHOW how much you know about lyrics by taking me up on what I said... because you are full of shyt.