The Underappreciated Genius Of K-Rino's Song Deprogrammed

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To those who are interested and either never were programmed or interested in becoming Deprogrammed, I give to you some information about the legendary K-Rino, you are welcome, I am sure will be quoting this in this thread so will post this here....

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K-Rino is a Hip Hop and street legend from South Park, Houston Texas. He is hugely admired and respected by many Hip Hop legends, street legends and legends in general. He is considered an OG and pioneer, particularly for H Town rap.

He paid his dues as a legendary battle MC, slaughtering MC's from all over and performing from as early as 1983. He released a single in around 1986 with his group at the time and this was 1 of the first (I think the 2nd) rap records to come out of Houston, he also toured nationally due to this at just 16 years old. In 1987 he founded the now legendary South Park Coalition which includes notable names such as DJ Screw, Gangksta Nip, Dope E (of The Terrorists), Klondike Kat, Top Dog & affiliates such a Z-Ro, Trae Tha Truth.

In 1992 he started his own record label Electric City Records (now Black Book International) and in 1993 released his solo debut album Stories From The Black Book which is regarded as an underground classic by many. He has gone on to release 36 albums and counting overall, which makes him possibly the most prolific MC off all time.

He is noted for being arguably the greatest lyricist ever, and his conceptual, creative substance filled style with strong views and diverse street and social content that emotionally captivates his audience. Many fans have said his music has changed their lives positively. He inspires, motivates and amazes with his gift simultaneously.

This was an intro video that was made for him for his 30th anniversary show with contributions from Scarface, Z-Ro, Canibus, Killer Mike, Bun B, Wicked Cricket, Ganksta Nip and many others....



"K-Rino is the hardest nikka in rap, period" - Z-Ro

"I think y'all do a lot of sleeping on K-Rino, K-Rino is the best rapper in Houston" - Scarface

"When you look at his catalogue you gotta give it up to him, sick with it man, for a long time too, that's what people don't really (realize), it's like everybody wanna run their mouth about ability but then how long can you do it, everybody listen, K-Rino made me write, he made me spazz the fukk out " - Canibus

"He was like the God I never met around these parts" - Point Blank

"To this day if I got a top 12 of rappers he's in it, and I'm talking Ice Cube, Chuck D, Rakim, cause he is just that gifted lyrically" - Parrish Murphy

"Real raw lyrics, from a real MC" - Bun B

Bun B also said this quote regarding K-Rino....

"I was barely a BG in the game when this man got on the mic. And this is 1 of the brothers that inspired me to do what I do today, and it is an honour and pleasure for me to present to the city of Houston, celebrating 30 years of H town Hip Hop, in my humble opinion the greatest battle rapper ever, and you can tell em Bun said that, ladies and gentleman please give it up for my OG and your OG, Houston's OG, Hip Hop's OG, ladies and gentleman K-Rino - Bun B on K-Rino

"Shout out to Rino, a living legend, you know he run this" - Trae Tha Truth on K-Rino

Scarface on K-Rino....

DX: That’s saying something, that’s a hell of an endorsement to say that he’s (K-Rino) got you when it comes to the H-Town hierarchy.

Scarface: Man, that muthafukka is the truth.

DJ Premier put K-Rino's song Antagonistic Radio as 1 of his 12 top songs of 2013 and has said he would LOVE to do a full album with him.



K-Rino has multi millions of views on youtube. His song Grand Deception was 1 of his most viewed tracks....


K-Rino has toured worldwide, and with artists such as Masta Ace, Stricklin & Wordsworth
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His album Book Number 7 was placed as 1 of the greatest Hip Hop albums of that decade.

His song Grand Deception was named as 1 of the top 12 songs of 2009 by Kevin Nottingham.

His album Deeper Elevation was also rated as 1 of the top 10 slept on albums of 2012.

His album Deprogrammed was named as the 2nd most slept on album of the year of 2014.

He has worked with artists such as Scarface, Spice 1, DJ Premier, Lil Fame (of M.O.P), Willie D, Z-Ro, Devin The Dude, Top Dog, Trae Tha Truth, OG Styles, Canibus, Klondike Kat, Ganksta Nip, Dope E (The Terrorists), Killiah Priest, Slim Thug and MANY more.

K-Rino says of his influences....

In 2006, K-Rino was interviewed by HipHop4Eva where he described his favourite artists growing up: "It started out being singers like Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Prince, then as Hip Hop came to birth, my early influences were Run-DMC, T-La Rock, Sugar Hill Gang, KRS-One to name a few. Sam Cooke is also a major influence, along with Dolemite."[12]

In the same interview K describes the importance of storytelling in not just his rhymes but in Hip Hop generally:
Storytelling is a lost art in rap. Not many do it anymore. Storytelling is a testament to a writer's creativity, all great writers have a great imagination. So you have to be able to create a plot that people can visualize. With a movie, you can see whats going on but when you can make someone see what you're saying as you're saying it, then thats a special talent. The knowledge comes from my roots in Hip Hop. In the beginning there were songs like "The Message", "The Breaks", then Public Enemy, KRS, X-Clan...those groups raised social consciousness in rap and thats the era i came up in, so naturally i understand the obligation to teach in my music, words are powerful and the things you say carry weight. I had to evolve and im still growing to where i dont get too wild anymore because i've corrupted enough minds.

In 2010, he further expanded on his favourite hip hop artists - in a candid interview with Rapbzdury - labelling Kool G Rap as one of the "top 5 best MCs EVER".[13]

In an interview with Houston Press in 2013, K-Rino listed five of his favourite albums as Stevie Wonder's "Songs In The Key Of Life", Sam Cooke's "Greatest Hits", Prince's "Sign O' The Times", T La Rock's "Lyrical King (From The Boogie Down Bronx)" and Boogie Down Productions' "Criminal Minded".[14]
 

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All theTerrorist albums are basically Dope E solos...

The 1st one "terror strikes" is one of my favorite rap-a-lot releases ever...but the 2nd one "Full Scale Attack" is an album you definitely gonna want to check out...lot of socio-political and concious shyt on there...and he spittin his ass off

Track with Rino on it



When K-Rino does that reggae shyt it is ill too, the styles, only great MC's like KRS-One and the like can do shyt like that. No surprise KRS-One is probably K-Rino's favourite MC...

I will check those albums out, thank you.

K-Rino featuring on Willie D from the Geto Boys song in 1992, with the reggae style, wrecks the short cameo....





The 2 OG's in recent times....

Little known fact, Ganxster Nip from K-Rino's SPC wrote some of Bushwick Bill's rhymes....
 

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Like @The Ruler 09 said , I'm more than happy to put money on this but you'll probably b*tch out like the rest of them lol

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lol lol lol
Interesting you both laugh at your own comebacks
If you aren't him then you're his nuthugger. Either way, you lose lol lol lol lol
He puts his head up K-Stegasauraus butt, you put your head up TheRuler09's butt, are you hoping K-Buffalo puts his head up your butt to make the love triangle complete?
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This song is 1 of the most underappreciated genius songs in Hip Hop history, the concept and then the execution.

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Deprogramming refers to measures aimed at bringing a person that has been indoctrinated into a given belief system to recognize that s/he has been indoctrinated so as to gain his or her agreement to abandon allegiance to the religious, political, economic, or social group associated with the belief system

The album itself is a conceptual classic but I wanted this to focus on the specific song.

To outline the concept simply it is a story track but with a message....

K-Rino plays the role of the doctor, trying to help a patient that has been programmed by the system, the systematic negativity in the music industry, like being beaten in the head at every corner with negative destructive music, hearing it all the time, the deliberate programming and also through other things in society that brainwash, like false religions, Hollywood (Burn Hollywood Burn) etc.

So the first verse starts with K-Rino sitting in his office mediatating when a new patient comes in, he diagnoses his condition quickly and starts treatment, which initially consists of a pill, similar to The Matrix but also there's metaphorical elements at play because also the music which the listener is hearing and the album as a whole IS the pill in a sense.

The chorus, highlights the resistance of the patient, who is a also just a mere representation of society and certain music listeners at large, but he potently says you'll thank me when I'm through. Because often when people wake up from out of brainwashing eventually they are thankful and grateful they have done so. And they are able to be more constructive and productive.

The 2nd verse again starts off with more resistance from the patient, physical and mental even after being treated, this particular patient was DEEPLY brainwashed so the resistance was an extreme case. Then he goes on to say, in a really dope way actually cause you can visualize it, that he hooked his brain up to a projector screen to analyse him and it shows like a history of his thoughts, dreams, ideas, and it goes to some of the root causes of the programming and manipulation. There was still rejection even during this process...

"When the needle spiked hard I got anxious
I saw how the dangerous language came through his subconscious chambers
Initiating gradual changes that were rendering him brainless
The power blew and shorted out the main switch"

The needle spiked and the doctor (K-Rino) got anxious and worried for the patient, because there was so much rejection, and he saw how the dangerous language and messages within the music he was being exposed/programmed by was effecting him subconsciously, and gradually as a process how it was effecting him and destroying his intellect and morality, just as he did this because of the persistent resistant the power blew and shorted.....

3rd verse he used 1 of his mechanisms to power the generator and started to analyse him further, filling his conscious with both positive and negative to monitor his responses and reactions to each. So with the negative he reacted positively to, and anything positive his mind rejected due to the programming. If you listen/read you will then see how he tries to encourage the patient verbally while stating that it was DELIBERATLY designed to have to effect on you, to OVERTAKE you as he put it, which is perfect word usage from a lyrical perspective. He elaborates on this too, it's what they specifically have done to stagnate people and keep their true potential hidden, unlocked and untapped. If you are taking in negative in you constantly what do you become? A product of what you take inside you. He also mentions radio placement within this as 1 of the tools that is used, why do you think we have to hear the SAME songs over and over again?. Anyway during treatment he was hoping for improvement but it wasn't getting better, the patient started yelling "turn up" and doing funny dances, this also is an example of the masterful execution within the song, even in a serious conceptual message filled story track he's able to add humour in it even though it is humour within the backdrop of truth. So he seemed to be getting even worse and this worried the doctor, a potent multi dimensional line is "he would die if I don't stop this ignorance from reigning". So now the time was running out to save the patient, and the doctor had never lost a patient before, so the pressure was growing and growing, so he decided to take more extreme measures and handle it directly and inject some of his own intellect into the patient physically to help get him in a stable condition, this was a risky strategy though because if it didn't work he would lose all of his own brain fluid and become contaminated himself, even his intern begged him not to do it but he insisted cause he wanted to save his patient so much, this is also an indication to how those who sacrifice for others sometimes even have to risk or give their life for the cause, whether it's in music or otherwise. Anyway, the doctor continued the process and even though it wasn't easy the patient was healed and successfully deprogrammed, but the doctor now wasn't responding, despite them trying to resuscitate him and read the bible and all sorts, so they considered him a martyr and were grateful for his self sacrifice to save the patient, so they put his body in the ocean as a burial and mourned him, but crazily enough they were shoked when they returned and saw him in his office acting normal, and watching TV lol....

The last bars.....

They came back to the building walked inside and nearly lost it
Looked down the hall and saw me watching TV in my office
Drinking a cup of coffee, relaxed trying to chill
As the patient tried to hug me, I just handed him the bill
Everyone was like, "We thought you had suffered sure disaster"
I said, "Yes, I know that's why you're the students and I'm the master"

Unadulterated genius, in an age where we have so many "rappers" talking some of the most nonsensical childish meaningless shyt we get a conceptual masterpiece like this.

Now let's gauge from the responses who does and doesn't need to be Deprogrammed.......



[Verse 1: K-Rino]
As I pondered the thought of evolving as an artist
I was inside of my office meditating in the darkness
An uncomfortable pounding was hitting in my chest
When the patient walked in I was sitting at my desk
As my thought reached his height, the room became bright
Then I stood up and slapped him for turning on the light
Then I told him to be seated as he started to explain
How the negative influences had targeted his brain
"The ratchetness defeated my ability to fight it
I know that it's atrocious but somehow I've grown to like it"
In one minute I deciphered the symptoms, "Shut up and listen
You've been poisoned and conditioned through audio repetition
And media false religions and visual exhibitions
The medicine to the sickness requires no prescription"
I opened up a cabinet a container was revealed
Then I told him to, "Be still, lay back and take this pill"

[Chorus : K-Rino]
"What are you tryna do?" "I'm going to deprogram you"
"What are you going to do?" "I'm going to deprogram you"
"No just let me go, I can't stand you, doctor damn you"
"You'll thank me when I'm through, just let me deprogram you"

[Verse2: K-Rino]
It was obvious his mind was rejecting cause he was choking
Three seconds after he took it his body started convulsing
I've been doing this for years, I'm trained, I'm not a novice
So I recognized quickly an exorcism was in progress
The process wasn't clean, he was harder to redeem
This was one of the most extreme cases I'd ever seen
I expected little resistance but never a rejecter
Hooked his brain up to this thing that showed his thoughts on a projector screen
Every idea and dream he ever dreamed
Told my secretary Jean to bring me a nectarine
As I ate it I sat back and let the method take it's course
It rewound back eventually landing at the source
When the needle spiked hard I got anxious
I saw how the dangerous language came through his subconscious chambers
Initiating gradual changes that were rendering him brainless
The power blew and shorted out the main switch

[Chorus : K-Rino]
"What are you tryna do?" "I'm going to deprogram you"
"What are you going to do?" "I'm going to deprogram you"
"No just let me go, I can't stand you, doctor damn you"
"You'll thank me when I'm through, just let me deprogram you"

[Verse 3: K-Rino]
My maintenance coordinator powered the generator
Then I placed him into great situational simulator
Filled his conscience with both beneficial and nonsense
Featured good and evil and monitored his responses
With weaker content his vessel paraded about
Anything positive, he regurgitated it out
I leaned over the table to scream, "Don't let it break you"
This fake music was specially designed to overtake you"
The superficial nature of this garbage I revealed
"It's an audio mirage this stuff is not even real
It's only a spell they sent to keep your true potential in the basement
Demented strategic radio placement"
I thought it would get better but then I saw no chances
He started yelling, "Turn up" and doing funny dances
He seemed to be getting worse than he was when he came in
I hollered for my intern to come help me restrain him
He would die if I couldn't stop the ignorance from reigning
The clock was ticking down only two minutes remaining
To save him I was racing but he gave no indication
My track record's impeccable, I've never lost a patient
So failure I never knew, each second the pressure grew
Came to the conclusion there was only one thing left to do
He's nearly a vegetable, I have to handle this directly
Laid on the table next to him, told my intern to connect me
And effectively inject more intellect till he was stable
Similar to car batteries connected with jumper cables
But if it didn't work I would lose all my brain fluid
My intern said, "Please don't". I said, "Shut up and do it"
When he plugged me to try it sparks flew from the wires
The lights were flicking on and off,the room was on fire
And purple communication after that was non-verbal
The screen said, "Total completion of transferral"
The course had ran thorough but something was still concerning
In silence both of us were laid motionless on the gurney
The patient's eyes opened as the Sun beamed through the window
My team started removing the chords from our temples
He raised up and said he was healed, "The method's proven"
They waited for me to respond, still I wasn't moving
They entertained the thought that I had let my tactics break me
They did everything in their power to resuscitate me
One of them read the bible as I laid there idle
And multiple devices were used to check the vitals
They shocked me, medicated me but still wasn't recovering
They worked to bring me back a whole hour but still nothing
Then grateful for my sacrifice and all of my devotion
They drove me 700 miles and placed me in the ocean
I floated out to sea as they cried and started grieving
They stayed the entire evening, said some words before leaving
They travelled home mourning the demise of the doctor
Returned to the facility to empty out their lockers
They came back to the building walked inside and nearly lost it
Looked down the hall and saw me watching TV in my office
Drinking a cup of coffee, relaxed trying to chill
As the patient tried to hug me, I just handed him the bill
Everyone was like, "We thought you had suffered sure disaster"
I said, "Yes, I know that's why you're the students and I'm the master

[Outro: K-Rino]
"Now get back to work"







Not gonna lie,never listen 2 this nikkka before but this trak ill!!!! gives me a 90s Ras Kass/Canibus vibe:ehh:

gonna check out some more of his sh1t:sas2:
 

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OP: which is worse in yr opinion: racist actions born out of pragmatism or racist actions born out of actual hatred?

I realize this is a troll post/question but, both are dangerous and immoral. It is also arguable that the 2 aren't necessarily separate, you can have pragmatic racist actions/philosophy while still having a deep hatred, it doesn't have to be 1 or the other. Infact in many cases through slavery it was just that, both, actual hatred but with a pragmatic calculated approach, for instance if you look at the Willie Lynch letter with the divide and conquer philosophy/method, that is both pragmatic and I'd also say there is clearly hate in that for wanting to do that to a race in the first place.

There are variables, some may have a more primitive hatred, which is more simplistic in it's nature, some may be more pragmatic and calculated when it comes to economics, systematic oppression and control, on the whole the latter you could argue has more of a damaging, detrimental and destructive effect, however I'd be cautious to say that, because many innocent lives have been lost from the ignorant savage approach too.

I shall let KRS-One expand, K-Rino's favourite rapper I believe is KRS-One actually, not surprised that such a great would inspire such a great, I hope they work together 1 day, might even help facilitate that....

 
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Not gonna lie,never listen 2 this nikkka before but this trak ill!!!! gives me a 90s Ras Kass/Canibus vibe:ehh:

gonna check out some more of his sh1t:sas2:

No doubt bro, track is ILL. Genius superb storytelling of the highest level. If you check out more of his shyt you won't be disappointed, as many who have through the K-Rino threads on here will attest to.

Peace.
 

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When K-Rino does that reggae shyt it is ill too, the styles, only great MC's like KRS-One and the like can do shyt like that. No surprise KRS-One is probably K-Rino's favourite MC...

I will check those albums out, thank you.

K-Rino featuring on Willie D from the Geto Boys song in 1992, with the reggae style, wrecks the short cameo....





The 2 OG's in recent times....

Little known fact, Ganxster Nip from K-Rino's SPC wrote some of Bushwick Bill's rhymes....


Rino used to do the Reggae flow until the 2000s hit but whenever he did it, he DESTROYED the track. See Point Blank's Prone 2 Bad Dreams album or Stories from a Black Book; If he went back to that, then he would be unstoppable again.
 

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I realize this is a troll post/question but, both are dangerous and immoral. It is also arguable that the 2 aren't necessarily separate, you can have pragmatic racist actions/philosophy while still having a deep hatred, it doesn't have to be 1 or the other. Infact in many cases through slavery it was just that, both, actual hatred but with a pragmatic calculated approach, for instance if you look at the Willie Lynch letter with the divide and conquer philosophy/method, that is both pragmatic and I'd also say there is clearly hate in that for wanting to do that to a race in the first place.

There are variables, some may have a more primitive hatred, which is more simplistic in it's nature, some may be more pragmatic and calculated when it comes to economics, systematic oppression and control, on the whole the latter you could argue has more of a damaging, detrimental and destructive effect, however I'd be cautious to say that, because many innocent lives have been lost from the ignorant savage approach to.

I shall let KRS-One expand, K-Rino's favourite rapper I believe is KRS-One actually, not surprised that such a great would inspire such a great, I hope they work together 1 day, might even help facilitate that....



Not only does @The Ruler 09 son nikkas on thier rap knowledge (or lack therof) but also capable of giving nikkas that work philosophically
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I realize this is a troll post/question but, both are dangerous and immoral. It is also arguable that the 2 aren't necessarily separate, you can have pragmatic racist actions/philosophy while still having a deep hatred, it doesn't have to be 1 or the other. Infact in many cases through slavery it was just that, both, actual hatred but with a pragmatic calculated approach, for instance if you look at the Willie Lynch letter with the divide and conquer philosophy/method, that is both pragmatic and I'd also say there is clearly hate in that for wanting to do that to a race in the first place.

There are variables, some may have a more primitive hatred, which is more simplistic in it's nature, some may be more pragmatic and calculated when it comes to economics, systematic oppression and control, on the whole the latter you could argue has more of a damaging, detrimental and destructive effect, however I'd be cautious to say that, because many innocent lives have been lost from the ignorant savage approach too.

I shall let KRS-One expand, K-Rino's favourite rapper I believe is KRS-One actually, not surprised that such a great would inspire such a great, I hope they work together 1 day, might even help facilitate that....


:mjlol: The Willie Lynch letter is not real, silly whiteboy. It's a proven hoax.
 

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Please don't think anyone's been forgotten lol. Like I said, I had over 40-60 , possibly more, not sure, notifications, so I am slowly working my way through it, be patient because I endeavour to get to it. @SirBiatch , firstly your name is an accurate description of yourself, secondly, be patient, take a seat and you will see the destruction of what you said in due course. I'm on like page 7 at the moment and getting new notifications, the more you keep talking MORE shyt the longer it will take to reply, if you be quiet I'll get to you eventually I guarantee.
 

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The Willie Lynch letter is fake. Like, really fake.

1) Lynch was supposedly from the West Indies, which were more ruthless and violent when it came to their slaves. Jamaica was known specifically for brutally breaking new slaves. The notion that a plantation owner from the West Indies(not even a specific island like Jamaica or Trinidad or Barbados just "the West Indies") would give a presentation on nonviolent methods of controlling slaves is questionable at best.
2) A lot of the language is too modern for a letter written in that part of the 18th century. There are a lot of words that either didn't exist at that time or didn't take on the specific meaning used in the letter until decades later. This article by William Jelani Cobb goes into much greater deal concerning this.
3)Dr. Kwabena Ashanti, a psychologist from North Carolina, admits to writing the letter in the 1970s as an allegorical text.
 

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:mjlol: The Willie Lynch letter is Not real, silly whiteboy. It's a proven hoax.

The speeches were not a hoax, which are factual. :deadmanny: at whiteboy, anyone who destroys you resort to delusion and desperation, befits your lack of intelligence, as I said, I will be responding to all fools in due course.
 

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The Willie Lynch letter is fake. Like, really fake. 1) Lynch was supposedly from the West Indies, which were more ruthless and violent when it came to their slaves. Jamaica was known specifically for brutally breaking new slaves. The notion that a plantation owner from the West Indies(not even a specific island like Jamaica or Trinidad or Barbados just "the West Indies") would give a presentation on nonviolent methods of controlling slaves is questionable at best. 2) A lot of the language is too modern for a letter written in that part of the 18th century. There are a lot of words that either didn't exist at that time or didn't take on the specific meaning used in the letter until decades later. This article by William Jelani Cobb goes into much greater deal concerning this. 3)Dr. Kwabena Ashanti, a psychologist from North Carolina, admits to writing the letter in the 1970s as an allegorical text.

And the ruler is white. :heh:
 
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