The UFO/UAP disclosure thread

[Professor Emeritus]

Been watching this guy since the hearing, Dr. Steven Greer.



Basically theres a shadow government that deals with aliens. They have man made Ufos. They, humans, abduct people in order to false flag an alien conflict.

They also have scalar technology, which exists in the time dimension and moves faster than light. Tesla knew about this technology. Im giving you the cliffn jiotes look it up for more information.

If you weren't already aware of Greer, you should know he's a renowned bullshytter and grifter who most of the UFO community consider to be a conman. This has already been covered in other threads.

I'm solely talking about the fact that whenever I see Greer's name come up in threads on pro-UFO webpages, it's followed by a bunch of comments like, "fukk Greer the Grifter". And that's from people who truly believe.


Are any of the following untrue?

- Greer says he can communicate with UFOs telepathically and summon them with his mind

- Greer charges people thousands of dollars to go out on UFO-summoning nights with him

- Greer got caught having a plane drop flares in the distance on one of those UFO-summoning nights. The evidence was that the "UFO's" appeared just after he had "summoned" them, they looked exactly like falling flares, he claimed they were holding their position when they were clearly falling, and flight-tracking data shows that a plane from a nearby small airport had been chartered that night to take off, fly to that exact location at that exact time, and then return. Whether or not you believe he was "caught", it's clear that many pro-UFO people believe it.

- Greer claimed to have taken a picture of an alien soul, and it turned out to be an altered image of a butterfly

- Greer was caught trying to pass off a mummified Chilean baby as an alien. When Gary Nolan sequenced the DNA and proved it was human, Greer attacked him and accused him of incompetence and/or lying.

- There are a ton of stories floating around involving Greer demanding exorbitant amounts of money for virtually anything - a hundred dollars to take a picture with him, thousands of dollars to do a podcast appearance, etc.

- Greer constantly name-drops important people he claims to have associated with or briefed regarding aliens, and in some instances those people have publicly responded and said he's full of shyt.

- Greer is repeatedly accused of extreme arrogance and of being a narcissist

- Greer claims he turned down a two billion dollar offer from the government to stop "exposing" their knowledge of UFOs

There's more, but I'll stop there.

He also says the most obvious bullshyt like this, all the time:

 

[Professor Emeritus]

From this article The Navy UFO Witnesses Speak Out Years Later

Voorhis says the objects were too far off to make out any distinguishing features, however, he could clearly see something moving erratically in the distance.

“I couldn’t make out details, but they'd just be hovering there, then all of a sudden, in an instant, they’d dart off to another direction and stop again,” Voorhis says. “At night, they’d give off a kind of a phosphorus glow and were a little easier to see than in the day.”

That's not of the Fravor occurrence specifically though, and sounds like he was probably looking though image-stabilized binoculars that can produce the same position jumping of far-distant objects as the stabilized videos I posted. The ship IS moving, it's bouncing and rolling on the open sea constantly, and if you're using 80x binoculars or some shyt, those movements are magnified tremendously.

Think of it from the UFO angle, or even the enemy-tech angle. You supposedly have this unprecedented technology that can defy physics, and you use it to....bounce around meaninglessly over the empty ocean? Moving between points that you could reach in a few minutes or seconds anyway with normal tech? Repeatedly doing this in full view of the US Navy, but never quite close enough to produce a decent pic? Why?



https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a29771548/navy-ufo-witnesses-tell-truth/

But in the same article


At the same time, its 5 people vs Fravor, and their accounts all support each others and Fravor's. I don't know what to think about it, but I definitely don't think it's NHIs.

Like I said, the other two witnesses who we KNOW were with Fravor say the entire interaction lasted just 8-12 seconds. So the idea of a 10-minute video of that particular incident is nonsensical.

Some of those reports actually sound more like they're referring to Chad Underwood's follow-up FLIR video from later that day rather than Fravor's original incident. And the only movement in Underwood's video is solely the effect of the FLIR camera switching zoom levels and dropping tracking. You can verify that from the displayed data on the video itself. Underwood had already spoken to Fravor (who was basically his boss) before he went out, so he was juiced to see a UFO, and he admits that he never made visual contact and only watched his FLIR screen. And he doesn't describe any specific movements beyond the one we see, he just focuses on "But it had no visible means of propulsion!" We'll yeah, if you're only moving at windspeed in a straight line, you don't need propulsion.


All these other people coming forward claiming more dramatic incidents than Fravor and Underwood, and better secret data, remind me of Roswell. For over 30 years, we knew everyone who was present at Roswell, all the witnesses agreed about who was present, and their accounts only differed in minor subjective details and interpretation. Then in the 1980s, these random-ass crazy stories started coming out from people completely unknown to the original witnesses, who could never prove they were there, who never had any evidence, and who told a story dramatically different from the story that all of the confirmed witnesses told.

They're just clout chasers. Whether they're lying overtly or just misremembering old shyt and letting their memories be distorted by news coverage, there's no reason to take them seriously. We're talking about something that happened 20 years ago and their account has no reciepts or alignment with the actual known events, so I just don't take it seriously.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

If you weren't already aware of Greer, you should know he's a renowned bullshytter and grifter who most of the UFO community consider to be a conman. This has already been covered in other threads.





He also says the most obvious bullshyt like this, all the time:

Peace be upon him.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

You supposedly have this unprecedented technology that can defy physics, and you use it to....bounce around meaninglessly over the empty ocean? Moving between points that you could reach in a few minutes or seconds anyway with normal tech? Repeatedly doing this in full view of the US Navy, but never quite close enough to produce a decent pic? Why?

 

[krackdagawd]

So they still ain’t show shyt

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

If you weren't already aware of Greer, you should know he's a renowned bullshytter and grifter who most of the UFO community consider to be a conman. This has already been covered in other threads.





He also says the most obvious bullshyt like this, all the time:

Yeah he’s a goat bullshyt artist

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Yeah he’s a goat bullshyt artist

Peace be upon him.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

 

[krackdagawd]

Yeah this shyt was duck tales. I was actually hype for this even made me go back and watch x files again

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I'm not a UFO guy, but this is just doesn't jive with what we've heard about the incident. There was 2 different jets each with 2 occupants, with Fravor's plane approaching the object and the other plane watching from higher up. So 4 different witnesses from 2 different vantage points. Radar data from both the jets as well as the the carrier that was tracking the UFO from afar matched their visual accounts.
I can't say I know what happened, or if everyone involved is telling the truth, but if the situation was described accurately then the parallax illusion would only account for Fravor and his copilot's account and not the matching account from the other jet, nor the matching radar data. I'm not saying I believe there was aliens, but it seems to me like something was there.

I've read about these radar reflector balloons, which explain away most of Grave's stories about "clear spheres with dark grey or black cubes inside."

Are Some Of The UFOs Navy Pilots Are Encountering Actually Airborne Radar Reflectors?

Submarine-launched, radar reflector-toting balloons used to stimulate enemy air defenses can be traced back to a Cold War era Skunk Works program.

www.thedrive.com

This could also explain the strange radar behavior seen during the Nimitz incident, but it doesn't explain the eye witness accounts of the 4 pilots.

I think it's important to note that one of the pilots who saw the UAP was a pawg. It adds to the credibility of Fravor's story.

Yeah he’s a goat bullshyt artist

I knew he was full of shyt when I saw he had an app he was selling for $9.99 that will show you how to contact aliens

‎CE5 Contact

‎CE5 Contact provides instructions and tools to assist you in making peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations as well as locating others in your area who are interested in making contact. The CE5 protocols were developed by Dr. Steven Greer, one of the world’s foremost authorities...

apps.apple.com

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I think it's important to note that one of the pilots who saw the UAP was a pawg. It adds to the credibility of Fravor's story.

 

[NZA]

I think it's important to note that one of the pilots who saw the UAP was a pawg. It adds to the credibility of Fravor's story.



I knew he was full of shyt when I saw he had an app he was selling for $9.99 that will show you how to contact aliens

‎CE5 Contact

‎CE5 Contact provides instructions and tools to assist you in making peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations as well as locating others in your area who are interested in making contact. The CE5 protocols were developed by Dr. Steven Greer, one of the world’s foremost authorities...

apps.apple.com

let TLR know that a PAWG is vouching for his story and they will storm area 51 without a plan

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

let TLR know that a PAWG is vouching for his story and they will storm area 51 without a plan

The whole PAWG phenomenon on thecoli.com is out of control and borderline unhealthy yet it makes me giggle every time.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

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