The Two Remaining Horsemen In A System Reboot -Official LA Clippers '24 off season thread

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He's not a max player that's for sure. I don't know how this gets done. But he walks, he walks. So be it. Kawhi might want out if PG bounces. PG is his security blanket, all the heat finally falls on Kawhi if PG leaves.
Not sure how much more heat Kawhi can get than people screaming for him to retire. When Kawhi is healthy he balls out. PG will spend all offseason talking about what hes gking to do and then play like a bytch.

Curious what the market is for Kawhi. If PG bounces does Harden want to leave as well? Team took a shot and it didnt work out. Im ready for the rebuild.
 

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Not sure how much more heat Kawhi can get than people screaming for him to retire. When Kawhi is healthy he balls out. PG will spend all offseason talking about what hes gking to do and then play like a bytch.

Curious what the market is for Kawhi. If PG bounces does Harden want to leave as well? Team took a shot and it didnt work out. Im ready for the rebuild.
Team needs picks but i don't know the return if you trade all 3.
 

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Not sure how much more heat Kawhi can get than people screaming for him to retire. When Kawhi is healthy he balls out. PG will spend all offseason talking about what hes gking to do and then play like a bytch.

Curious what the market is for Kawhi. If PG bounces does Harden want to leave as well? Team took a shot and it didnt work out. Im ready for the rebuild.
I'm chattin' with a few heads on another board and we're debating on how serious Kawhi's injury really is. Is he secretly having surgery or needs surgery? Will he even be ready at the start of training camp or the season? Kawhi is silent as usual and Frank and the team won't tell us until probably September. This is the type of sh*t I'm talking about with this guy. We can rip PG all day and trust me I get it when it comes to him, but Kawhi is a totally different level of frustration in my book. Why they signed up for three more years of his sh*t is astounding!
 

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I'm chattin' with a few heads on another board and we're debating on how serious Kawhi's injury really is. Is he secretly having surgery or needs surgery? Will he even be ready at the start of training camp or the season? Kawhi is silent as usual and Frank and the team won't tell us until probably September. This is the type of sh*t I'm talking about with this guy. We can rip PG all day and trust me I get it when it comes to him, but Kawhi is a totally different level of frustration in my book. Why they signed up for three more years of his sh*t is astounding!
I'm predicting surgery. If Kawhi is too hurt to play then that's what it is. I'd be complaining less about PG if he just shut the fukk up. The issues are two different things PG has more control over his issue imo.

The Kawhi deal is not ideal but he took less than the max to allow the team some flexibility. 70% Kawhi is more valuable than 90% PG. I'm fine if they give him the max and fine if he walks/sign and trade.

Prepared to ride out next three years with a 5 seed ceiling. The team is too old and too slow. The young players we have haven't gotten a lot of burn but they haven't really popped when given their shot.
 

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Yeah this team (and a lot of others) are getting ran out the gym by OKC or Minny.
With a healthy Kawhi anything is possible, but that's the catch, he's rarely healthy. Also it would take PG & Harden playing consistent which is another moan and groan situation. Zu, Mann, Norm ballin' out. Minny took away the Nuggest vaulted bread & butter Pick n Roll play and bodied up Jokic and Murray individually and that was the end of their chapter. Clipps would've been tougher trying to bottle up all three stars(if they're playing well) and then also making sure Zu, Mann, Norm don't go off on the offensive end. Wishful thinking tho. Wolves are definitely the better team and are definitely the future of the league.

 

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Fully healthy kawhi and this team isn’t getting beat.. PG is supposed to be a superstar.. he never plays like one when it’s needed.. he can go and get exposed wherever else he wanna play
 

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With a healthy Kawhi anything is possible, but that's the catch, he's rarely healthy.
If I had a million dollars I'd be a millionaire. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Hopefully he shocks the world next year.
Also it would take PG & Harden playing consistent which is another moan and groan situation.
I have more faith in a healthy Kawhi than these two consistently playing well.
Minny took away the Nuggest vaulted bread & butter Pick n Roll play and bodied up Jokic and Murray individually and that was the end of their chapter.
Clippers aren't capable of doing what Minny is doing to Denver. We don't have enough young legs. Russ/Mann vs Ant would have been entertaining to watch. Ready to see what happens next season.
 
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The league is going back to homegrown talent. Reaping the benefits of young stars in their prime after coaching, reps and film study. You’re not going to get prime Kawhi, Harden, Russ & PG on the market nowadays because they’ll be locked in their situation with another team
 

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The league is going back to homegrown talent. Reaping the benefits of young stars in their prime after coaching, reps and film study. You’re not going to get prime Kawhi, Harden, Russ & PG on the market nowadays because they’ll be locked in their situation with another team
Facts.. all that go a star days are far and few in between. You can attempt to buy a ring but the Big 3 you go get will 9 times outta 10 be old and semi washed. The league is changing right before our eyes. Add youth and get bigger, faster, and more athletic or else you'll be on the outside looking in.
 
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