The Tsarnaev brothers didn't have gun licenses

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Boston Bombing Suspects Did Not Have Gun Licenses

WASHINGTON -- The Boston bombing suspects engaged in a deadly firefight with police last week, possessing six bombs, handguns, a rifle and more than 250 rounds of ammunition. But the Tsarnaev brothers did not have proper licenses to possess the firearms, according to the Cambridge Police Department -- a revelation that comes just days after the Senate voted against strengthening and expanding background checks for gun sales.

Cambridge Police Department spokesman Dan Riviello told The Huffington Post that neither Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, nor Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, appeared to have a license to own a handgun.

"The younger brother could not have applied as he is not 21 years of age and the older brother did not have a license to carry and we have no record of him ever applying," Riviello said.

Under state law, residents under 21 can obtain a firearms ID card that allows them to own shotguns or rifles that hold 10 rounds or less.

Reuters reported that the police in Dartmouth, Mass., where the younger brother was a student, also had no record of gun licenses or ID cards for either brother.

Last week, the Senate voted against expanding and strengthening background checks for firearms purchases. Under current law, people wishing to obtain a gun need to have a background check for certain types of purchases -- such as from a licensed dealer -- but do not have to go through that process for other types of sales.

A background check could have caused problems for Tamerlan. Department of Homeland Security officials decided not to grant him citizenship after what The New York Times called a "routine background check" revealed that FBI officials had interviewed him in 2011, at the request of the Russian government, which was concerned that he had ties to Chechen terrorists. He was also reportedly involved in an episode of domestic violence in 2009 against his girlfriend.

A majority of the Senate supported the legislation to strengthen background checks, but it failed to get the 60 votes needed to move ahead. The vast majority of the American public also backs expanding background checks.

Riviello said the Cambridge Police Department did not have information on how the brothers obtained their firearms.

The Tsarnaev brothers are also accused of shooting a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer, hijacking a car at gunpoint and shooting a police officer in Watertown, Mass.
 

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I was never the fan of the Pied Piper so im not following you, friend. What are you saying here. Im being serious with you here. There are other places for 2 demonic individuals to get weapons besides a gun show or the internet friend. Seedy people who are in the streets tend to find other ways.
 

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I think the issue here is that people who want to
hurt a lot of people or send a message will find a way to do so.

They don't have to buy guns legally, they can circumvent
that.They don't even have to use guns, they can use bombs.
If they don't want to use bombs they can use knives or their car.
And guns just like bombs can be built at home if the person making
them can read diagrams and those homemade guns can use standard
ammunition.

If you ask me I think we should focus on what's causing these individuals
to crack up,instead of worrying about their weapon of choice and
finding ways to restrict access to it for the rest of the public. :yeshrug:
 

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I was never the fan of the Pied Piper so im not following you, friend. What are you saying here. Im being serious with you here. There are other places for 2 demonic individuals to get weapons besides a gun show or the internet friend. Seedy people who are in the streets tend to find other ways.

Sure...so shouldn't there perhaps be more legal mechanisms that could limit the proliferation of weapons on the black market?
 
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Sure...so shouldn't there perhaps be more legal mechanisms that could limit the proliferation of weapons on the black market?


What legal mechanisms are going to prevent someone from obtaining a weapon illegally?

We would need 24/7 drone surveillance, a numerous and permanent group of undercover agents, no privacy in telecommunications and "wall of china" style fortification along the southern border.
 

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What legal mechanisms are going to prevent someone from obtaining a weapon illegally?

We would need 24/7 drone surveillance, a numerous and permanent group of undercover agents, no privacy in telecommunications and "wall of china" style fortification along the southern border.

No you wouldn't. You would just have to do what they do in western Europe and Japan.
 

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Sure...so shouldn't there perhaps be more legal mechanisms that could limit the proliferation of weapons on the black market?

:upsetfavre: all the guns that I have came across (illegally) came from back dealing with gun shops in PA and VA. ATF know about the inventory loop hole but they do nothing about it.
 

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What legal mechanisms are going to prevent someone from obtaining a weapon illegally?

We would need 24/7 drone surveillance, a numerous and permanent group of undercover agents, no privacy in telecommunications and "wall of china" style fortification along the southern border.
Theres a long way between 24/7 drones and where we are. And we wouldn't have to get anywhere near 24/7 drones, nor would we have to infringe on the rights of legal gun owners to address the laundry list of gun security issues.

I am pretty sure you dont know the first thing about gun laws in the US though so I am just speaking generally here.
 
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