The truth about Kobe Bryant

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Stats only have credibility when it's from your subjective context, and when asked to elaborate on why, you said 'EVERYTHING'. Youy haven't wanted to discuss anything this whole thread.

Man stop crying. Can you answer the question? You really can't. I said it can be one word or ten sentences. Don't matter. Its an honest question. You've been watching ball long enough to see both play right? Should have an opinion.

And where have I used stats to validate anything?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

top five is:

1. mj
2. kareem : wilt
3. big o
4. dr j
5. connie


those are the best actualized skill players ever...

i don't see kobe being anywhere near that and if i fleshed it out to a top ten.

i don't see kobe there either.

kobe can not beat a zone defense.....

the old players, not even in the top five.

like pete and the pearl averaged forty plus with no dunks and no threes.

the pearl shot sixty percent from the field..

kobe is so far from top ten,..it is ridiculous.




art barr

Entirely your opinion but do you think its fair to compare eras like that? I'm referring Earl the Pearl and the 60% shooting. I can't imagine Earl seeing the athletic length on D that Kobe sees. I also disagree with the bolded because you and I have both seen Kobe destroy zones.

And you must be related to the hawk to have him in your top 5..

 

[Jram]

Man stop crying. Can you answer the question? You really can't. I said it can be one word or ten sentences. Don't matter. Its an honest question. You've been watching ball long enough to see both play right? Should have an opinion.

And where have I used stats to validate anything?

In addition to avoiding the question I asked for two pages worth on this thread, you've now managed to turn this around on me about not answering a question about Ron Harper and Antawn Jamison. Great.

 

[TheNig]

top five is:

1. mj
2. kareem : wilt
3. big o
4. dr j
5. connie


those are the best actualized skill players ever...

i don't see kobe being anywhere near that and if i fleshed it out to a top ten.

i don't see kobe there either.

kobe can not beat a zone defense.....

the old players, not even in the top five.

like pete and the pearl averaged forty plus with no dunks and no threes.

the pearl shot sixty percent from the field..

kobe is so far from top ten,..it is ridiculous.




art barr

can people please stop putting Wilt in the top 5. its really disgusting to me.

 

[Luke Cage]

can people please stop putting Wilt in the top 5. its really disgusting to me.

Just because wilt wouldn't average 50ppg in todays game doesn't mean he wouldn't be a beast. This was a 7 foot track star. Imagine Shaq or Dwight running the fast break like Lebron. This dude also had a refined post game because nikkas wasn't allowed to dunk back then. take dunking outta dwights repertoire and see how many points he scores. And he stilled played against legends. this was the only dude who could block kareems hook shot. His stats would be similiar to shaq but with twice as many blocks and a few more rebounds per game.

 

[TheNig]

Just because wilt wouldn't average 50ppg in todays game doesn't mean he wouldn't be a beast. This was a 7 foot track star. Imagine Shaq or Dwight running the fast break like Lebron. This dude also had a refined post game because nikkas wasn't allowed to dunk back then. take dunking outta dwights repertoire and see how many points he scores. And he stilled played against legends. this was the only dude who could block kareems hook shot. His stats would be similiar to shaq but with twice as many blocks and a few more rebounds per game.

Dream blocked it too. and I think Dream and Kareem are both better centers than Wilt.

 

[GreatestLaker]

top five is:

1. mj
2. kareem : wilt
3. big o
4. dr j
5. connie


those are the best actualized skill players ever...

i don't see kobe being anywhere near that and if i fleshed it out to a top ten.

i don't see kobe there either.

kobe can not beat a zone defense.....

the old players, not even in the top five.

like pete and the pearl averaged forty plus with no dunks and no threes.

the pearl shot sixty percent from the field..

kobe is so far from top ten,..it is ridiculous.




art barr

Did you not watch the Lakers vs the Suns series in 2010? All the Suns played was zone.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Did you not watch the Lakers vs the Suns series in 2010? All the Suns played was zone.

Of course he saw it. When he made that comment, I thought he was trolling somewhat so I didn't give an example. And there are many.

 

[Jram]

Make sure not to disrespect Wilt.

It's not his fault he was born 30 years earlier than everyone else, but he dominated his era more than anyone else ever did. All you can do is dominate your own era...he can't control anything else. He dominated it by such a wide margin that I think he's a top five player. We all know he gets knocked because the caliber of competition was lower, but he wasn't just better than his competition, he was embarrasingly better by a HUGE margin.

 

[mastermind]

Dream blocked it too. and I think Dream and Kareem are both better centers than Wilt.

they arent

more accomplished, but def not better. Wilt was containing Kareem at 34 years old when Kareem was an MVP candidate in Milwaukee.

And amazingly, Wilt was a better athlete than Hakeem was and taller and bigger and stronger. He had a better offensive game too. I dont want to admit that either, but he did.

Wilt is the most dominant player the NBA has ever seen.

But you could say Kareem, Hakeem, and a few others were more accomplished.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wilt averaged 48.5 minute per game one year. 48 and a half minutes. Weak competition has nothing to do with that.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Wilt averaged 48.5 minute per game one year. 48 and a half minutes. Weak competition has nothing to do with that.

I think so breh. If he had to face centers of Dream, Ewing, Shaq, DRob, Mutumbo, Zo and Duncan's status on a regular basis, he wouldn't be playing 48 minutes a game.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think so breh. If he had to face centers of Dream, Ewing, Shaq, DRob, Mutumbo, Zo and Duncan's status on a regular basis, he wouldn't be playing 48 minutes a game.

You make it sound like he was gasping for air after 48. He only played 48 because that's as long as the game was. If the game was 60, he woulda gone 60. Dude only left the floor one time the whole season and that's because he got ejected.

Wilt played 48 minutes then would fukk 48 bytches right after. The man had stamina. Respect it.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

You make it sound like he was gasping for air after 48. He only played 48 because that's as long as the game was. If the game was 60, he woulda gone 60. Dude only left the floor one time the whole season and that's because he got ejected.

Wilt played 48 minutes then would fukk 48 bytches right after. The man had stamina. Respect it.

How and where did I make it seem like he was gasping for air?

I respect it highly but don't like I don't have a point.

 

[SpittinThatKnowledge]

top five is:

1. mj
2. kareem : wilt
3. big o
4. dr j
5. connie


those are the best actualized skill players ever...

i don't see kobe being anywhere near that and if i fleshed it out to a top ten.

i don't see kobe there either.

kobe can not beat a zone defense.....

the old players, not even in the top five.

like pete and the pearl averaged forty plus with no dunks and no threes.

the pearl shot sixty percent from the field..

kobe is so far from top ten,..it is ridiculous.




art barr

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT ARE YOU SAYING?