The truth about Kobe Bryant

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Shaq - No. And that's only because Shaq didn't have the work ethic. As great as he was, he could have been much much better. Kobe was just too important to helping Shaq win his championships.

Wilt - If Shaq wasn't better than Kobe then Wilt definitely isn't better

Kareem - Interseting, very interesting. I think the best case could be made for Kareem

Lebron - Lebron James is not a better player all time than Kobe right now. Nah!

look here you fatherless nappy headed negro
is this how sensitive you get....even when someone is trolling your out there jihading for kobe

cotdamn i wish u get hit by bus tonight
 

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Shaq - No. And that's only because Shaq didn't have the work ethic. As great as he was, he could have been much much better. Kobe was just too important to helping Shaq win his championships.

Wilt - If Shaq wasn't better than Kobe then Wilt definitely isn't better

Kareem - Interseting, very interesting. I think the best case could be made for Kareem

Lebron - Lebron James is not a better player all time than Kobe right now. Nah!

Who cares about work ethic when we're comparing careers? Shaq's numbers are what they are, regardless of how hard he worked. Wilt dominated his time more than any player ever has. Stats we're inflated, but they we're so incredibly dominant it stands today.

Of course LeBron is better. By nearly every statistical measure James is the better player. Just let it go.
 

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Who cares about work ethic when we're comparing careers? Shaq's numbers are what they are, regardless of how hard he worked. Wilt dominated his time more than any player ever has. Stats we're inflated, but they we're so incredibly dominant it stands today.

Of course LeBron is better. By nearly every statistical measure James is the better player. Just let it go.

You ain't heard? Lebron ain't got 5 rings or magical game winners
 

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Shaquille O'Neal has never sniffed a finals without an elite player(s) at his side.

Michael Jordan doesn't have a single winning season without Scottie Pippen.
 

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I've responded to a few people here about this, and I had to make a thread.

In the last few days, I've run into people who say he is the second best player ever if he gets 7 titles, people laugh out loud when I say he isn't top five ever, people say that Kobe's peak is better than Wade's, and more.

Let's be real for one second. Just once, let look at his career objectively. :comeon:

I'm break it down here why Bryant was never the best player in the game conclusively at any point in his career:

Court Bully » The story about the ‘torch’

Stop making it seem like it's crazy to say Bryant isn't the best player of his generation. Bryant was NEVER the best player in the game conclusively at any point, and he is getting overrated because of his legacy and the titles he piled in because he landed on a great Laker team after scaring the Nets away from drafting him in 96.

Bryant is a 1st ballot HOF. Dude is one of the greats. Best since Jordan? No. Top five ever? No.

He's in the discussion to be amongst the 10 best ever. That's the fairest way to put his actual production up in the All-time comparison.

1. You a d*ckriding fakkit, you love the attention.

2. Kobe hasn't been the best since Jordan? :why: You should be :ban: off GP. Since 1996, who's had more titles than Kobe? more NBA 1st teams, more playoff appearances, more All Star game appearances? Magic said Kobe is the greatest Laker ever. Bird said Kobe only having one MVP makes him wants to give him back. Jordan said Kobe is the best player in the L, who the f*ck are you? :snoop: at me even responding to this. I should neg myself, but I can't, so I'm gonna neg you.
 

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I've responded to a few people here about this, and I had to make a thread.

In the last few days, I've run into people who say he is the second best player ever if he gets 7 titles, people laugh out loud when I say he isn't top five ever, people say that Kobe's peak is better than Wade's, and more.

Let's be real for one second. Just once, let look at his career objectively. :comeon:

I'm break it down here why Bryant was never the best player in the game conclusively at any point in his career:

Court Bully » The story about the ‘torch’

Stop making it seem like it's crazy to say Bryant isn't the best player of his generation. Bryant was NEVER the best player in the game conclusively at any point, and he is getting overrated because of his legacy and the titles he piled in because he landed on a great Laker team after scaring the Nets away from drafting him in 96.

Bryant is a 1st ballot HOF. Dude is one of the greats. Best since Jordan? No. Top five ever? No.

He's in the discussion to be amongst the 10 best ever. That's the fairest way to put his actual production up in the All-time comparison.

:childplease:
 

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i think kobe will be considered the greatest of all time after he retires...

5 rings
nba mvp
2 time finals mvp
4 time all star mvp
14 time all star
2 time scoring champ
5th on all time scoring list
9 time first team nba defense
10 time first all nba team
won gold for usa
scored 81 pts in a single game
slam dunk champ
 

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Shaquille O'Neal has never sniffed a finals without an elite player(s) at his side.

Michael Jordan doesn't have a single winning season without Scottie Pippen.

Finals are undoubtedly a team accomplishment, but that's a fact that much of the Kobestan army likes to ignore. The reason Kobe is usually propped up as being the best individually is that his teams have won a lot of championships.

There is also the fact that he has gone on a few scoring surges. The Kobestans themselves (in other arguments, of course) claim those teams were awful and had no other scoring options, so :manny:
 
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