The Thing I Wonder Most About Tupac's Murder

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[QUOTE ="Nomad1, post: 11778453, member: 12232"] A lot of nikkas was out that day b/c of the Tyson fight. Remember, when Orlando was being questioned by the cops Suge, Pac, Outlawz, and the Mob Piru all went to Suge's mansion (and Pac went to Kidada to change his clothes as well). Orlando and them were initially going to club 662 b/c they heard Pac say in the loud speaker (@ the end of the fight) that they all were going to that club "mob style" (or some shyt like that). Their plan was to ambush Pac and Suge at that club, but there was a shyt load of Mob Piru so they tried to find them before they got there.

Keep in mind they had NO guns so they also met up with ZIP (godfather to Biggie's son, and the nikka that introduced the SSCC to Diddy) and they got the gun from him.

Breh they found Pac and Suge by luck b/c one of them dumb bytches in the car yelled out Pac's name. Orlando's car was going the opposite direction and when they heard her they did a U-turn. Pac and Suge were unfortunately boxed in, and then Lando murked Pac.

People claim the "police did it" but this isn't true. Orlando had the biggest motive to kill Pac and the bullet trajectory would show that an in-experienced nikka with a gun (gangbangers) killed Pac. If it was a cop or the government, them nikkas would of head shot Pac. Pac got shot 4 times but the bullet to the lung was that shot that killed him.

And Biggie pretty much died the same way (dumb bytches yelling at their car, a nikka pulls to the passengers seat and kills him). Poochie a Mob Piru killed Biggie and it was done so on the orders of Suge.

And Kadafi was killed by Napolean's cousin. Kadafi owed him money and he shot him in the head. The Outlwaz tried to cover it up, and Kadafi's mother went on a tirade against Napolean on FB two years ago lol.

Nothing about Pac, Big, or Kadafi's death is a conspiracy. nikkas are trying to make it look like some next level shyt b/c they can't comprehend the fact that some low-life nikkas killed a bunch of rapping celebrities that were above them.

All I want to know is who the fukk killed Stretch? I heard he stole some drugs from a nikka but I don't know if it's been validated. :patrice:[/QUOTE]
And who killed Big L? :dwillhuh:
 
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I believe @Nomad1 ....I think the crips/orlando did all that shyt...I just question their true motives.


Something tells me that the whole thing was a set up from the jump.Orlando chilling in the lobby at the MGM...Trayvon whispering shyt into Tupac's ear.That shyt has some "design" to it.

Them nikkaz are the two biggest suspects to me.Especially Trayvon.


It's a slick way of taking Pac out.I think it's a possibility that most of the shyt that happened that night was scripted/planned out in advance.

What makes it so airtight, they got real gangbangers to execute it.


So I believe the crips did it, I just think they had help....coordinance...surveilance.Too many "coincidences" involved for somebody not to be clocking Pac's every move that night.


People say "Pac wasn't that important...conspiracy nut ha ha ha" but some times big dogs will kill a single flea if it becomes too much of an annoyance.
 

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They were on a side road behind the MGM that doesn't tend to be super busy. Even on busy nights on the strip. You can jump onto Koval and get going. Usually on fight nights people hang around the hotel and the strip, they don't just jump in a car and go usually.
 

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brehs . . I don't know what you were up to last night but I woke up and logged into 56 notifications, mostly in this thread
 

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Tupac and Deathrow were definitely under surveillance.. I've always thought that maybe they (the government) planted a gps tracking device on the car earlier, and that's how they were able to locate him with precision. Perhaps they saw an opportune time to assassinate him. Because we all know that's what happens when you speak up about black issues.

Again, I do think the most likely scenario is the Southside Crips were responsible, but I just wanna know how the fukk were they able to find him so quick.


way 2 many theories and all of them reek of conspiracies!!!!! like how the fukk is the only witness dead??? and so is Orlando Anderson!!!!! Anderson is understandable he was heavy in the streets and a B vs C thing was on and poppin after Pac`s death,but Khadafi got shot by one of the Outlawz allegedly,LIKE WTF!!!!!!



for all we know,it could have been SUGE,PUFF,BIG,DAN QUAYLE,GEORGE BUSH,CRIPS,COPS,FBI,CIA,FREEMASONS AND THE ILLUMINATI!!!!!!!!!!!




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I think Orlando killed him. It just makes the most sense to me and has the most proof backing it. Pac was just a reckless person and snuffed the wrong person. :mjlol:at the thought of Suge doing it though. How are you going to set someone up and then be right there when it goes down? He could have had him killed anywhere but he chose the Vegas strip?
 

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Plus traffic doesn't stop . .

You trolling? This is the furthest thing from the truth. Traffic on the strip is always bumper to bumper, and it doesnt move. Its easily taken us a half an hour or more to travel less a mile on the strip. I cant speak to the way conditions were on that night (and I assume it was crazy since it was a tyson fight night), but driving on the Vegas strip is well known to be hell on wheels.

Suge n Pac had their windows down in bumper to bumper traffic, no doubt slappin' loud ass music, causing a scene, and people walking were obviously gawking and pointing at them and trying to get their attention. They weren't exactly known as quiet shrinking violets either, so Im sure they stood out (especially big ass suge), and they had a convoy behind and in front of niccas wearing all red and making noise themselves. Knowing all that they were easy targets if someone was about that life, which is what happened.
 

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Kading pretty much detailed everything in his interview with Anton Batey.

His timeline makes the most sense. Orlando killed 2Pac, pretty easy to see IMO
 

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You trolling? This is the furthest thing from the truth. Traffic on the strip is always bumper to bumper, and it doesnt move. Its easily taken us a half an hour or more to travel less a mile on the strip. I cant speak to the way conditions were on that night (and I assume it was crazy since it was a tyson fight night), but driving on the Vegas strip is well known to be hell on wheels.

Suge n Pac had their windows down in bumper to bumper traffic, no doubt slappin' loud ass music, causing a scene, and people walking were obviously gawking and pointing at them and trying to get their attention. They weren't exactly known as quiet shrinking violets either, so Im sure they stood out (especially big ass suge), and they had a convoy behind and in front of niccas wearing all red and making noise themselves. Knowing all that they were easy targets if someone was about that life, which is what happened.

"traffic doesn't stop"

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There's a constant flow to traffic in Vegas. Green light here, red light there. Green light there, red light here. Cars aren't exactly getting around other cars and changing position. If you're behind a car there's a good chance you'll be behind that same car til you turn off
 

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"traffic doesn't stop"

traf·fic
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    vehicles moving on a road or public highway.
There's a constant flow to traffic in Vegas. Green light here, red light there. Green light there, red light here. Cars aren't exactly getting around other cars and changing position. If you're behind a car there's a good chance you'll be behind that same car til you turn off

Have you ever driven a car? Been in a car? Been outside? Ever hear of the phrases "traffic jam", "gridlock", "traffic congestion"...do you understand the concept? LOL @ googling the definition "traffic".

One thing you have to understand about the strip is that there has always been constant construction going on (building new casinos and renovations) so lanes are often closed, which disrupts that traffic flow you had to google. Sht like that is always going down on the strip. Combine that with a massive crush of people (most of them hammered tourists), cops, etc and you know why traffic slows to a crawl there. I shouldnt have to explain this sort of sht bruh.
 

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I think Orlando killed him. It just makes the most sense to me and has the most proof backing it. Pac was just a reckless person and snuffed the wrong person. :mjlol:at the thought of Suge doing it though. How are you going to set someone up and then be right there when it goes down? He could have had him killed anywhere but he chose the Vegas strip?

I think it was Interscope and Suge was aware what was going down . . look at this facial expression

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this appears to be the original picture by the way . .
 

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Have you ever driven a car? Been in a car? Been outside? Ever hear of the phrases "traffic jam", "gridlock", "traffic congestion"...do you understand the concept? LOL @ googling the definition "traffic".

One thing you have to understand about the strip is that there has always been constant construction going on (building new casinos and renovations) so lanes are often closed, which disrupts that traffic flow you had to google. Sht like that is always going down on the strip. Combine that with a massive crush of people (most of them hammered tourists), cops, etc and you know why traffic slows to a crawl there. I shouldnt have to explain this sort of sht bruh.

What I am saying is . .

There was traffic. Traffic moves in Vegas in an organized way.

IF YOU ARE IN TRAFFIC . . HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GETTING TO TARGETS?

What was this dude driving on the sidewalk?
 

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The Orlando/Crips theory is the most believable..all that other government, spooky shiit is nonsense.

"they" could have taken him out any minute..no questions asked either

I always wondered why it took 2 years for Orlando to get murked tho..it seems as if everybody in LA knew he did it.

He didn't get killed for Pac shyt, that was some separate shyt

And I'm sure him not getting killed is a combination of him laying low and him really being about the business
 
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