The Thing I Wonder Most About Tupac's Murder

[Nomad1]

And I also want to say that in hindsight, Diddy and Suge are responsible for Pac and Biggie's death b/c they didn't do enough to distance them away from their personal beef. Pac and Big's beef was minor but it got conflated with Diddy's and Suge's.

And all these 90's babies talking about it's "Pac's fault" for Biggie dying and this isn't true. Biggie was seen hanging with Orlando and Keffe D AFTER Pac was dead, and he made the stupid move of going to LA and dissing Pac in that radio show (i think it was sway). Pac never said anything about Biggie while he was in prison and refused to believe he had anything to do with it until he heard "Who shot ya" (released when he was still in prison). And then Biggie almost got DPG and Pac killed when he said they were filming a video in "our" city (Pac wasn't even there) and they re-recorded NY NY as a diss and made NY 87 (it was never released tho). Again, Pac NEVER name dropped Biggie or even referenced BB.

Biggie and Puffy weren't no angels, and IMO they were much more ruthless than Pac and Suge.

I had to address this revisionist history.

 

[Elevated ATLien]

@Nomad1 is on the money IMO, his version makes the most sense. Orlando was just one of those shoot-first type Compton gangbangers who couldn't deal with getting a taste of his own medicine (AKA catching a beat down in public). Pac was not the only body he caught.

I don't believe the part about Suge intentionally using Pac as a shield, either. Pac was shot that many times because he made the understandable mistake of trying to crawl back into the backseat, which left his whole body open. Suge was trying to keep him down. Orlando missed most of the shots too. shyt like that is unpredictable.

And yes, Biggie dissed Pac on the Sway show in March 97. He got killed a few days after


The only thing I'm really wondering is if Tyson told Zip and them about where Pac/Suge were gonna be after the Fight. Tyson was partying with those Crips that night. This thread http://www.thecoli.com/threads/jimm...-cent-suge-knight.267641/page-4#post-10927229 talks about it. Please let it not be true

 

[Danie84]

After comprehending COINTELPRO; once Pac became the GOAT his days were numbered

...him and Big gets gun down at crowded industry events, and the killers gets away unscathed

It's Bigger Than Hip-Hop

 

[Nomad1]

@Nomad1 is on the money IMO, his version makes the most sense. Orlando was just one of those shoot-first type Compton gangbangers who couldn't deal with getting a taste of his own medicine (AKA catching a beat down in public). Pac was not the only body he caught.

I don't believe the part about Suge intentionally using Pac as a shield, either. Pac was shot that many times because he made the understandable mistake of trying to crawl back into the backseat, which left his whole body open. Suge was trying to keep him down. Orlando missed most of the shots too. shyt like that is unpredictable.

And yes, Biggie dissed Pac on the Sway show in March 97. He got killed a few days after

Yeah that's the one. And Orlando caught Suge and Pac off guard. I can understand why Pac tried to go to the back-seat, but it did leave his chest open (and the bullet wound there was the only reason why he died). But Suge might of pulled Pac down so he wouldn't get hit...

And Orlando in the sense was one of those sneaky and p*ssy gangbangers I read somewhere that he wasn't a fist-fighter (he was bad at it) so he resorted to guns to get his shyt done. He killed multiple people and he even bragged about killing Pac in his neighborhood (ironically he was a Pac fan).

IMO I think Pac had flash-backs of his robbery/set-up in NYC, when he saw Lando in the lobby, and I think his buried rage made him attack Lando. I remember Napolean saying Puffy put a hit on those DR chains, and Lando robbed Trayvon Lane (DR member and blood) and he was the guy that whispered in Pac's ear that Lando was the guy that did it. nikkas think Pac jumped him to earn "stripes" but it wouldn't make sense to do that when his actions (and suge's) broke the condition of their bail. So in essence if Pac did (and survived) or didn't get shot he would've went back to jail and he would've served 4 years in prison (max sentence for his assault case).

The Quad incident/hanging with them Brooklyn nikkas sealed Pac's fate.

 

[Truth200]

A lot of nikkas was out that day b/c of the Tyson fight. Remember, when Orlando was being questioned by the cops Suge, Pac, Outlawz, and the Mob Piru all went to Suge's mansion (and Pac went to Kidada to change his clothes as well). Orlando and them were initially going to club 662 b/c they heard Pac say in the loud speaker (@ the end of the fight) that they all were going to that club "mob style" (or some shyt like that). Their plan was to ambush Pac and Suge at that club, but there was a shyt load of Mob Piru so they tried to find them before they got there.

Keep in mind they had NO guns so they also met up with ZIP (godfather to Biggie's son, and the nikka that introduced the SSCC to Diddy) and they got the gun from him.

Breh they found Pac and Suge by luck b/c one of them dumb bytches in the car yelled out Pac's name. Orlando's car was going the opposite direction and when they heard her they did a U-turn. Pac and Suge were unfortunately boxed in, and then Lando murked Pac.

People claim the "police did it" but this isn't true. Orlando had the biggest motive to kill Pac and the bullet trajectory would show that an in-experienced nikka with a gun (gangbangers) killed Pac. If it was a cop or the government, them nikkas would of head shot Pac. Pac got shot 4 times but the bullet to the lung was that shot that killed him.

And Biggie pretty much died the same way (dumb bytches yelling at their car, a nikka pulls to the passengers seat and kills him). Poochie a Mob Piru killed Biggie and it was done so on the orders of Suge.

And Kadafi was killed by Napolean's cousin. Kadafi owed him money and he shot him in the head. The Outlwaz tried to cover it up, and Kadafi's mother went on a tirade against Napolean on FB two years ago lol.

Nothing about Pac, Big, or Kadafi's death is a conspiracy. nikkas are trying to make it look like some next level shyt b/c they can't comprehend the fact that some low-life nikkas killed a bunch of rapping celebrities that were above them.

All I want to know is who the fukk killed Stretch? I heard he stole some drugs from a nikka but I don't know if it's been validated.

I respect this post because i know you're a true to heart Pac fan who did the research...

Dap + Rep

 

[Danie84]

Always thought it was fishy, how Pac bodyguard wasn't in the car with Suge and him

...and, Puffy switch rides with Big

The Dualities of those fateful nights, were an everlasting Harsh Reality for Hip-Hop

 

[inndaskKy]

The Quad incident/hanging with them Brooklyn nikkas sealed Pac's fate.

This. His refusal to sign with Bad Boy and him calling them out for being fake is what set off the whole chain of events. Like Pac said, he was a tragic Shakespearean character. On the one hand, his death seemingly could easily have been avoided. On the other, it was really inevitable because of the clash between his character and beliefs and those from his environment.

 

[Don Mack]

Illuminati?

 

[head shots101]

i never believed the orlando anderson chit either.

plus i recall khadafi saying that he saw a white hand pull the trigger. this is NEVER brought up.

I think he said that on Americas most wanted and then he got killed days later in jersey

 

[iseetrolledpeople]

Have to spread rep but I got on the next 1 @Nomad1

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

people love making it deeper than it is violate the wrong one and you getting killed shyt happens everyday

 

[H. Selassie]

sumtimes its destiny yall

Pretty much what I chalk it up to. If he was supposed to still be here, he'd be here.

 

[Earnings]

i never believed the orlando anderson chit either.

plus i recall khadafi saying that he saw a white hand pull the trigger. this is NEVER brought up.

Cuz they killed Khadafi soon after if i aint mistaken

 

[Piff Perkins]

Ultimately it would be easy to do a hit. Given that Pac had just embarrassed Orlando and his crew, it's not crazy to assume someone outside the casino saw them depart and paged the homies.

The thing that gets me...Pac and Suge weren't dumb. They had just stomped the shyt out of a crip, they aren't 100% familiar with the territory...why wouldn't you lay low? If only to get from point A to point B. They rolled out of that casino without a care in the world...

 

[H. Selassie]

The thing that gets me...Pac and Suge weren't dumb. They had just stomped the shyt out of a crip, they aren't 100% familiar with the territory...why wouldn't you lay low? If only to get from point A to point B. They rolled out of that casino without a care in the world...

It's crazy how when you read about the demises/falls from grace/deaths of "powerful" and calculated people, there is usually a course of naive, uncharacteristic action that leads up to the moment.