The Tariq Nasheed Thread

[Hiphoplives4eva]

The people that hate on Pan Africanism tend not to have a grasp on world history and politics for the most part, the Europeans literally rose to the top cutting and decimating Africa apart in the guise of being pan European.

Even through all the world wars they had amongst each other, 5ry knew better than let go of the stranglehold of the richest continent, yet you’ve got Black people in the diaspora who see no benefit in Africa, what a lost people’s!

The difference is, the Europeans had information and were knowledgeable on the riches of Africa. Can’t say the same for your typical FBA/ADOS person.

 

[Wiseborn]

When you look to Tariq Nasheed as a scholar instead of John Henrik Clarke for example, this is exactly what happens....

Yhis shyt got started because he wanted to defend tariq's contradictions.

He'd also twist himself in a knot saying that tariq's sister is not a bedwench while calling every Black women who even expressed interest in a cac a bedwench.

Uhh. That's different homie is latin so hes really Black.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

It's the blind loyalty that's the problem for me. I mean eat the meat spit out the bones but blindly following pappy when it's clear he's seeking or getting a bag from the republicans is just not it.

Who's blindly following him?
And that man don't give a damn about Republicans; his post aint got nttn to do with a Republican

 

[No Sleep]

Who's blindly following him?
And that man don't give a damn about Republicans; his post aint got nttn to do with a Republican

He is calling out the beloved Left/Democrats and they losing it.

Hell as if following the democrats thats full of white supremacist isn't blind following.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

He is calling out the beloved Left/Democrats and they losing it.

Hell as if following the democrats thats full of white supremacist isn't blind following.

Negros love some damn democrats who ain't gone do shyt for black folks and hate Tariq cuz he calls them out

 

[96Blue]

Ummmm I didn’t bring them in. The broad half white

ain’t no imaginary more black. Do they have more black dna? No they don’t.


Cut out the fake imaginary bullshyt. I don’t care if they literally signed the paperwork to free us from slavery. They ain’t fukking no “more black”. That’s the most c00n fukking bullshyt I ever heard fam


My family been here and died here and before that, like your family, you came from a fukking black African. Not no fukking white Jew in a dashiki

Yes they're more Black than them, always have been always will be.

We have more in common with than people who just got here.

I'm not denying I come from a Black African, but acting like I only come from a Black African is the problem. We also come from white people and some native Americans.

Ain't no c00n shyt, biracial people are ADOS and have done more for us than anyone in the Diaspora, historically. But, you wanna switch up now?

Nah, we aren't African and we haven't been African for 500+ years.

 

[96Blue]

Jamaica do practice Pan Africanism stop making foolish statements, you’re the person who called Marcus Garvey an agent so I’m nit even surprised..

This is where you get your Bob Marley’s Sizzla Kalonji Bounty Killer and Buju Banton, in the 90’s literally half of Jamaicans biggest artists were pro black/ Pan Africanist Rastas, if they didn’t practice Pan Africanism rhetoric this simply wouldn’t happen.

Why didn't it happen with Garvey then?

Garvey should have never had to leave, but he did and we accepted him, because they weren't fukking with pan-Africanism at the time. Seems like they hopped on it after we did.

 

[Budda]

The difference is, the Europeans had information and were knowledgeable on the riches of Africa. Can’t say the same for your typical FBA/ADOS person.

Or the typical continental African who is even less clued up on the very land they lay their feet.

In terms of Pan Africanism or any pro black discourse FBA are far ahead of any Nigerian Dominican Ghanaian or Ethiopian ethnic group.

I understand what Tariq says in that it's been an uneven fight against white supremacy for the last 400 years, FBA and to a lesser extent Haiti and Jamaican peoples have fought why most on the continent have watched by even unaware that they suffer from it.

Regardless the merits in Pan Africanism is the same merits that the French Spanish and German have in being Pan European..

Why wouldn't unite with people of your DNA and ilk in the guise of economic and social prosperity. Europeans have had genocides wars ethnic cleansing and yet are still united in being Pan European, white America included..

 

[IllmaticDelta]

And white people did some shyt for us throughout history too and they ain't more fukking black than AN actual black person with black dna compared to one directly related to a full on white personal

dna and not being the same bloodline as white slavers for one and two

Dumbass, he's obviously talking about cultural blackness as it relates to descendants of slaves NATIVE to mainland USA.

^^2 drastically different phenotypes bound together by african ancestry and a shared experience makes them closer to one another than they would to any "black" outsider regardless of phenotype

 

[Budda]

Why didn't it happen with Garvey then?

Garvey should have never had to leave, but he did and we accepted him, because they weren't fukking with pan-Africanism at the time. Seems like they hopped on it after we did.

I'm not arguing that FBAs were ahead in consciousness at the time hence Garvey having to move. What I do disagree with is Jamaicans not practicing Pan Africanism when Garvey basically became a national hero at the end of his time and after his death, influencingRastafarianism whichs influence to Jamaica and the greater world is profound.

 

[96Blue]

I'm not arguing that FBAs were ahead in consciousness at the time hence Garvey having to move. What I do disagree with is Jamaicans not practicing Pan Africanism when Garvey basically became a national hero at the end of his time and after his death, influencingRastafarianism whichs influence to Jamaica and the greater world is profound.

So, you admit it.

Why wait until Garvey got big and die in America to finally fukk with his message?

nobody was on that shyt until WE were on that. Everybody else had, and still has their own agenda and they get to gatekeep and advocate for their agenda without pushback (which doesn't include ADOS) and YOU don't have a problem with that, YOU only have a problem when we do it.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I'm not arguing that FBAs were ahead in consciousness at the time hence Garvey having to move. What I do disagree with is Jamaicans not practicing Pan Africanism when Garvey basically became a national hero at the end of his time and after his death, influencingRastafarianism whichs influence to Jamaica and the greater world is profound.

Jamaica(ns) for the most part were not Pan-Africanist or Pro-Black prior to Garvey soaking up game from ADOS/FBA. The motto for Jamaica is even

Out of many, one people: Motto or myth?

 

[Budda]

So, you admit it.

Why wait until Garvey got big and die in America to finally fukk with his message?

nobody was on that shyt until WE were on that. Everybody else had, and still has their own agenda and they get to gatekeep and advocate for their agenda without pushback (which doesn't include ADOS) and YOU don't have a problem with that, YOU only have a problem when we do it.

Nah there's no problem in people having individual agendas, this has been the way of humans generally. Brothers before cousins, cousins before friends, friends before strangers.

Iindividual agendas are ok, Pan Africanism doesn't say don't have a individual agenda, the Portuguese looks out for the Portuguese before he does a German, the German looks out for the German before he looks out for the French, but when it comes to the topic of carving and benefitting economically from Africa they literally have conferences to come together and conquer a common 'enemy'.

It makes economic sense for the Europeans to work together, I think the same is true for every groups of African descent people also.

 

[Budda]

Jamaica(ns) for the most part were not Pan-Africanist or Pro-Black prior to Garvey soaking up game from ADOS/FBA. The motto for Jamaica is even

Out of many, one people: Motto or myth?

I just said the same thing, after Garvey.

 

[HiphopRelated]

Nah there's no problem in people having individual agendas, this has been the way of humans generally. Brothers before cousins, cousins before friends, friends before strangers.

Iindividual agendas are ok, Pan Africanism doesn't say don't have a individual agenda, the Portuguese looks out for the Portuguese before he does a German, the German looks out for the German before he looks out for the French, but when it comes to the topic of carving and benefitting economically from Africa they literally have conferences to come together and conquer a common 'enemy'.

It makes economic sense for the Europeans to work together, I think the same is true for every groups of African descent people also.

Exactly