The Tariq Nasheed Thread

[Cadillac]

Cultural blackness

what the fukk ever. I’m focused on who’s actually black not this make believe bullshyt about half jews being more black than our African brothers. Black ain’t a US exclusive title. I been around this world.

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@Bold: LOL once again, race and the idea of black and white is itself make believe. You ironically sit here and poke at things like culture, and ethnicity. But is to stupid and ignorant to realize the idea of race itself is make believe

I see a black republican and he still blacker than a mixed person. Cause his bloodline nikka. I don’t want to hear who’s culture is “black” and which one isn’t. we invented culture. And whatever we deem our culture that came from us, is black too. From Africa to Australia to Asia to America.

NO ADOS did all this, and that included some of the very mixed/biracial ados people you trying to exclude and say are not black in america

And @Australia oh i see what type of dumbass nikka you are. You live in a fantasy land, theres no helping you

 

[Cadillac]

I really don’t like arguing with any of y’all. I feel we all want the same thing and that’s kind of my point.

If you have two black parents, then you have lived a different type of life than any other human on earth. There is nothing truly like being BLACK. The black experience.

This whole post is garbage because that "black" experience that your trying to internationalize is not carried by other groups

other groups go through diff experiences like due to being around people that look like them and being in a country like that(Africans and caribbeans fit this)

ADOS people are diff and the "black experience" as known is associated with us and that includes biracial ados people as they go thru the same and other ados type of people.

infact just recently you had this nigerian bytch on that CBS tv show say this.





NO black american whether they are light, dark, 2 blk parents or just 1 has this privledge to pass due to a fukkin accent

and thats just one example of how diff WE(all people ados including mixed, creole, gullah, etc) are from them(African/Caribbeans)

 

[96Blue]

Do you think a African is "blacker" than the avg ADOS? yes or no?

@The Devil's Advocate

Answer this, because Africans/Foreign Blacks will say we aren't pure Africans, but here you're trying to tell us who isn't ADOS.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

@The Devil's Advocate

Answer this, because Africans/Foreign Blacks will say we aren't pure Africans, but here you're trying to tell us who isn't ADOS.

This whole post is garbage because that "black" experience that your trying to internationalize is not carried by other groups

other groups go through diff experiences like due to being around people that look like them and being in a country like that(Africans and caribbeans fit this)

ADOS people are diff and the "black experience" as known is associated with us and that includes biracial ados people as they go thru the same and other ados type of people.

infact just recently you had this nigerian bytch on that CBS tv show say this.





NO black american whether they are light, dark, 2 blk parents or just 1 has this privledge to pass due to a fukkin accent

and thats just one example of how diff WE(all people ados including mixed, creole, gullah, etc) are from them(African/Caribbeans)

A biracial person is more black in america than any african, Blackness itself is just a social concept stupid, so it changes from place to place.

blackness and race in general is as arbitrary as ethnicity, class, etc. its just a way for humans to divide themselves like the others


dude you having a meltdown or something, you just rambling now, yes. Infact lets do this. Do you think a African is "blacker" than the avg ADOS? yes or no?

I have no idea what you trying to say with this drivel, ill just say what i been saying Peanut is more black than any of them Africans and caribbeans yall nikkas be clinging on to.



its clear your mind is not mature to have adult conversations. Take your sporadic dumbass self back to the Arcadium and talk video games little boy.

@Bold: LOL once again, race and the idea of black and white is itself make believe. You ironically sit here and poke at things like culture, and ethnicity. But is to stupid and ignorant to realize the idea of race itself is make believe



NO ADOS did all this, and that included some of the very mixed/biracial ados people you trying to exclude and say are not black in america

And @Australia oh i see what type of dumbass nikka you are. You live in a fantasy land, theres no helping you

Y'all are impossible for real. So let's try this again:



1. I see a black person, no matter where they are from in this world.. That's all SEVEN continents. If they have black skin, they are black.......... TOOOOOOOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I do not give a fukk if they are jamaican, african, black and asian, black and white, black and indian... whatever. IN MY HEART, they are a black man/woman, as long as they claim that they are



2. I do not care where on earth you are born, if you don't have two black parents, you are not blacker than ANY person that does.


You may be on equal footing. You may have done more for us than this other black man. You might have never done shyt but claim black. You might have done it all and claim mixed. But you are not BLACKER than another black man. Steph Curry is not blacker than Nelson Mandela because he's ADOS and got cornrows.. They BOTH black


3. I did not say who is an american descendant of a slave and who isn't.. I said a mixed american ain't blacker than a black jamaican or black hatian or any other black man/woman.

Mixed people have gone through our struggles too from day one of this country. But you ain't suddenly blacker than my South African homie who went through apartheid personally, because your ancestors were slaves. You can be mixed and look like me or be mixed and look like a white man... You don't get a blanket "you're blacker than every other black person around the globe because in 1823......." Nah. You get judged on what the fukk YOU doing and claiming, and are you black or playing both sides...



4. I don't give a fukk what other people think about me. What they eat don't make me shyt. Because you're a horrible person, doesn't make me change my values. Because I have different beliefs doesn't make the way you think wrong. And because I believe all black people are one, it don't make me fukking whatever is y'all want me to be.



Simple enough? All questions answered? Call me whatever you want. I refuse to look another person who black like me, and start determining his blackness based on where he's from and what his people did historically.. There's black foreigners FIGHTING and y'all would pre judge them and their blackness from the moment they said hello.

THAT seems awfully white to me

 

[Shabazz]

Y'all are impossible for real. So let's try this again:



1. I see a black person, no matter where they are from in this world.. That's all SEVEN continents. If they have black skin, they are black.......... TOOOOOOOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I do not give a fukk if they are jamaican, african, black and asian, black and white, black and indian... whatever. IN MY HEART, they are a black man/woman, as long as they claim that they are



2. I do not care where on earth you are born, if you don't have two black parents, you are not blacker than ANY person that does.


You may be on equal footing. You may have done more for us than this other black man. You might have never done shyt but claim black. You might have done it all and claim mixed. But you are not BLACKER than another black man. Steph Curry is not blacker than Nelson Mandela because he's ADOS and got cornrows.. They BOTH black


3. I did not say who is an american descendant of a slave and who isn't.. I said a mixed american ain't blacker than a black jamaican or black hatian or any other black man/woman.

Mixed people have gone through our struggles too from day one of this country. But you ain't suddenly blacker than my South African homie who went through apartheid personally, because your ancestors were slaves. You can be mixed and look like me or be mixed and look like a white man... You don't get a blanket "you're blacker than every other black person around the globe because in 1823......." Nah. You get judged on what the fukk YOU doing and claiming, and are you black or playing both sides...



4. I don't give a fukk what other people think about me. What they eat don't make me shyt. Because you're a horrible person, doesn't make me change my values. Because I have different beliefs doesn't make the way you think wrong. And because I believe all black people are one, it don't make me fukking whatever is y'all want me to be.



Simple enough? All questions answered? Call me whatever you want. I refuse to look another person who black like me, and start determining his blackness based on where he's from and what his people did historically.. There's black foreigners FIGHTING and y'all would pre judge them and their blackness from the moment they said hello.

THAT seems awfully white to me

That’s the end game for alot of AAs who call themselves Ados/FBA.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

That’s the end game for alot of AAs who call themselves Ados/FBA.

What's crazy is you can definitely be both. I think we SHOULD get reparations and it should definitely be for ADOS only. I believe we should have programs exclusively for us. I believe we are owed a debt that needs to be paid. I believe mixed blacks from America also would be in line for that as well....................................


Somehow I also need to think "fukk these foreign nikkas" as well, or it doesn't count. So now I'm going to become the parent, who tells the kids, look down or different at foreign blacks (just like they mad foreign parents do to us, although I doubt they know more than 50 families)...... And therefore push the divide onto the next generation. But wonder why it never works out....


Nah

 

[Budda]

This whole post is garbage because that "black" experience that your trying to internationalize is not carried by other groups

other groups go through diff experiences like due to being around people that look like them and being in a country like that(Africans and caribbeans fit this)

ADOS people are diff and the "black experience" as known is associated with us and that includes biracial ados people as they go thru the same and other ados type of people.

infact just recently you had this nigerian bytch on that CBS tv show say this.





NO black american whether they are light, dark, 2 blk parents or just 1 has this privledge to pass due to a fukkin accent

and thats just one example of how diff WE(all people ados including mixed, creole, gullah, etc) are from them(African/Caribbeans)

The Nigerian woman said because of her British accent, if you moved to the Uk as ADOS and back to the US you would have the same privilege.. the privilege she explained is due to accent, the same way in the other thread people were saying people treat them better abroad when they hear their American accent, as a black person, regardless if you’re Wale Pop Smoke or an ADOS.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

This whole post is garbage because that "black" experience that your trying to internationalize is not carried by other groups

other groups go through diff experiences like due to being around people that look like them and being in a country like that(Africans and caribbeans fit this)

ADOS people are diff and the "black experience" as known is associated with us and that includes biracial ados people as they go thru the same and other ados type of people.

infact just recently you had this nigerian bytch on that CBS tv show say this.





NO black american whether they are light, dark, 2 blk parents or just 1 has this privledge to pass due to a fukkin accent

and thats just one example of how diff WE(all people ados including mixed, creole, gullah, etc) are from them(African/Caribbeans)

Glad this was posted... As an ADOS person, who lived in moved to London for a year, and then back to Philly with a strong accent as a child.... This is fukking bullshyt

But see her stupidity in that statement, won't let me look at the next Nigerian and say "I already know what you about and you ain't black like me." Same way I won't look at a mixed person and say "Oh I know you blacker than that Nigerian"..... Cause I don't fukking know either one. So until I hear otherwise, you black to me.

Perfect

 

[IllmaticDelta]

A biracial person is more black in america than any african, Blackness itself is just a social concept stupid, so it changes from place to place.

blackness and race in general is as arbitrary as ethnicity, class, etc. its just a way for humans to divide themselves like the others


dude you having a meltdown or something, you just rambling now, yes. Infact lets do this. Do you think a African is "blacker" than the avg ADOS? yes or no?

I have no idea what you trying to say with this drivel, ill just say what i been saying Peanut is more black than any of them Africans and caribbeans yall nikkas be clinging on to.



its clear your mind is not mature to have adult conversations. Take your sporadic dumbass self back to the Arcadium and talk video games little boy.

I don't think many people realize the difference between "blackness" and "africaness"

...the difference is exactly why in Nigeria the audience looked at Fela like when he did the black power salute

 

[96Blue]

That’s the end game for alot of AAs who call themselves Ados/FBA.

No it isn't.

Y'all are impossible for real. So let's try this again:



1. I see a black person, no matter where they are from in this world.. That's all SEVEN continents. If they have black skin, they are black.......... TOOOOOOOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I do not give a fukk if they are jamaican, african, black and asian, black and white, black and indian... whatever. IN MY HEART, they are a black man/woman, as long as they claim that they are



2. I do not care where on earth you are born, if you don't have two black parents, you are not blacker than ANY person that does.


You may be on equal footing. You may have done more for us than this other black man. You might have never done shyt but claim black. You might have done it all and claim mixed. But you are not BLACKER than another black man. Steph Curry is not blacker than Nelson Mandela because he's ADOS and got cornrows.. They BOTH black


3. I did not say who is an american descendant of a slave and who isn't.. I said a mixed american ain't blacker than a black jamaican or black hatian or any other black man/woman.

Mixed people have gone through our struggles too from day one of this country. But you ain't suddenly blacker than my South African homie who went through apartheid personally, because your ancestors were slaves. You can be mixed and look like me or be mixed and look like a white man... You don't get a blanket "you're blacker than every other black person around the globe because in 1823......." Nah. You get judged on what the fukk YOU doing and claiming, and are you black or playing both sides...



4. I don't give a fukk what other people think about me. What they eat don't make me shyt. Because you're a horrible person, doesn't make me change my values. Because I have different beliefs doesn't make the way you think wrong. And because I believe all black people are one, it don't make me fukking whatever is y'all want me to be.



Simple enough? All questions answered? Call me whatever you want. I refuse to look another person who black like me, and start determining his blackness based on where he's from and what his people did historically.. There's black foreigners FIGHTING and y'all would pre judge them and their blackness from the moment they said hello.

THAT seems awfully white to me

I respect this, but it's still problematic.

You can say whatever you want, but at the end of the day, biracial people are Blacker than foreign Blacks due to their history in AMERICA, nothing will change that.

 

[96Blue]

What's crazy is you can definitely be both. I think we SHOULD get reparations and it should definitely be for ADOS only. I believe we should have programs exclusively for us. I believe we are owed a debt that needs to be paid. I believe mixed blacks from America also would be in line for that as well....................................


Somehow I also need to think "fukk these foreign nikkas" as well, or it doesn't count. So now I'm going to become the parent, who tells the kids, look down or different at foreign blacks (just like they mad foreign parents do to us, although I doubt they know more than 50 families)...... And therefore push the divide onto the next generation. But wonder why it never works out....


Nah

The thing is when we talk about immigration negatively affect us, Black immigrants come in talking about "what about us?" And "there are Black immigrants, too?"

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

these nikkas wanna assimilate into whiteness like Latinos and think nobody else can't see through that shyt

That’s the end game for alot of AAs who call themselves Ados/FBA.

 

[Cadillac]

The Nigerian woman said because of her British accent, if you moved to the Uk as ADOS and back to the US you would have the same privilege.. the privilege she explained is due to accent, the same way in the other thread people were saying people treat them better abroad when they hear their American accent, as a black person, regardless if you’re Wale Pop Smoke or an ADOS.

and how exactly does this refute what i say?

the black experience is synonymous and is assocated to black american experience

here a nigerian brit talks how she escapes that exp

and your rebuttal is this?

and before you go and say some bull like "well if she didnt..." just know that its documented how africans are recieved more positively than ADOS

so you can get that crap out of here rn beause its not just that accent that will save her

 

[Cadillac]

as @IllmaticDelta pointed out your thing is africanness which is.... i guess fine, like Devin the dude said "do what the fukk you wanna do"

but blackness is diff. Yes a ADOS person can say hes more blaker than your south african homie because his ancestors invented this shyt and ingrained themselves in it

whereas your south african homie or whatever saw themselves as merely africans.

Glad this was posted... As an ADOS person, who lived in moved to London for a year, and then back to Philly with a strong accent as a child.... This is fukking bullshyt

But see her stupidity in that statement, won't let me look at the next Nigerian and say "I already know what you about and you ain't black like me." Same way I won't look at a mixed person and say "Oh I know you blacker than that Nigerian"..... Cause I don't fukking know either one. So until I hear otherwise, you black to me.

Perfect

as i and others have said blackness was invented by us

your whole stance and defense on this falls apart as is everyone else who seems to ignore this that ADOS INVENTED BLACKNESS therefore yes a black american whether mixed or not is more "blacker" than a nigerian especially when we talkin in america.

Doesnt mean we are better or anyone is worst.

it just means when it comes to who is "black in america" it pertains to ADOS.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The thing is when we talk about immigration negatively affect us, Black immigrants come in talking about "what about us?" And "there are Black immigrants, too?"

It's not up to me to tell them no. It's up to me to say "Excuse me... Us first. Then you can do what you want to do."

Maybe that's exactly what y'all are saying too and I got it confused. I'm just not going to take it to the negative side of the tweet. For what? Because a percentage of them don't like us, or don't know us, or think they are above us... Mostly, let's be honest, because of the way we are portrayed in the white media worldwide as black americans. But no excuses. A percentage of them don't like us, so I'm going to take to stand that outreach is dead? It exists no more? It's a dream?

That when I see another man with my dark color, in my country or his, instead of starting off on a good note. I'm already going to be on some "man he probably don't like me." Because of what other people are doing? But then I want to walk around and say "Don't judge me based off a certain segment of MY population"

as @IllmaticDelta pointed out your thing is africanness which is.... i guess fine, like Devin the dude said "do what the fukk you wanna do"

but blackness is diff. Yes a ADOS person can say hes more blaker than your south african homie because his ancestors invented this shyt and ingrained themselves in it

whereas your south african homie or whatever saw themselves as merely africans.


as i and others have said blackness was invented by us

your whole stance and defense on this falls apart as is everyone else who seems to ignore this that ADOS INVENTED BLACKNESS therefore yes a black american whether mixed or not is more "blacker" than a nigerian especially when we talkin in america.

Doesnt mean we are better or anyone is worst.

it just means when it comes to who is "black in america" it pertains to ADOS.

good. Y’all focus on racist ass america and who is an who isn’t. Like I cant figure that out with a passport


I’ll focus on the color of my skin and not excluding anyone who has it, from building with me


If that’s an argument about who’s right and wrong. I’ll be wrong. And black people are from many other places than Africa. As I kept saying. ANY black person is good with me. And no non black one is gonna be blacker. That shyt just sounds like white people talk