The Sweet Life of Zach and Coby: We got AK's, The Official 2021 Chicago Bulls Off Season Thread
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AKME are in a grace period bc we had to deal with garpax so long but I havent been impressed so far
Hopefully they have some tricks up their sleeve for next year
Like someone said earlier I'm giving them a grave period. I don't blame them for trying to see what the ceiling of this current core is and trying to win considering Zach can leave. The team is underperforming, but they didn't build this core, they just added to it.
I would've rather they committed further to building through the draft but as you saw even in this thread the fanbase was ready to win and have a winning culture. Some of us like myself and @Left.A1 didn't like the Vucevic trade but most of us was rocking with that "winning culture" narrative.
AKME better pull a rabbit out of their collective hat this summer or it might get hot for those dudes... the trade deadline "win now" splash moves have been an unmitigated failure this season ... Don't know how even the biggest homer can even lie to themselves about that fact...No playoffs No Play In No "winning culture" No "reputation shift" it's actually been worse than even my pessimistic Outlook projected ... We are currently now relying on TANKING yet again ...and make no mistake if we we're to get our pick this year it will be purely because TANKING worked for us and that's an interesting position to be in ..considering the general shift from the fanbase in it's appetite to "chase after draft picks"AKME are in a grace period bc we had to deal with garpax so long but I havent been impressed so far
Hopefully they have some tricks up their sleeve for next year
Additionally the "threat" of Zach leaving is still there even after all of this movement...it's going to get real dicey if by January next season this team is still looking mediocre... What happens if Zach isn't giving them the indication that he wants to re-up at that point? I think the potential for shyt to go completely south should be getting a lot more consideration from the fan base than it is right now ...although I personally think the collection of talent should be performing/will perform much better especially offensively It wouldn't totally shock me if the team continues to sputter next year without some major roster changes ..which BTW I don't even know how possible that's going to be without trading away our young guys like Coby or Pat ...Free Agency looks really dry
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so this were u dudes went
I still like like Vucevic addition. Where we part is you all saw that as a win now move and if it didn't immediately pan out then the trade was bad. I'm seeing it as a move for the future. Sorta in the sense if we went into the off season with max cap space and Vucevic was on the market and we grabbed him. This was a route that was necessary. Free agents were not coming here on their own will on Vucevic level. So the only other way to make that happen is through trade.
We didn't get fully what AK was trying to do. The last piece was lonzo and that deal fell through. I would be more disappointed if we got him, the pg we needed and this still didn't work.
I'm not tripping on the picks because 1. We still can retain them if we move up to 4th, 2. It was a slim chance that anyone we pick from 7th-12th was going to move the needle any for us and 3. Lavine and Vucevic still have the value that If this thing is just not working out we can flip both of them for many picks and get back into the draft. Issue here is only giving them half a season to make a quick turn around which I def was expecting this to take longer to pan out.
I mean there is a huge difference between 32% & 20% - we really need to stay ahead (or behind?) the Kings & Raptors
No incentive anymore to win, we cant get the play in
Since Randles cap hold is going to be so low (less than max) the Knicks will have the money to comfortably sign Lonzo to let's say a deal at $22 million a year then ALSO max Zach at $34million and still resign Randle for a max deal as well ... They have damn near 0 contracts on their books next summer ...they will be a threat to our internal and external targetsthats the only team i was legit worried about , if they kant get dame im expectin a hard push for zac... randle is better then vucc , the team currently constructed top to bottom is better then the bulls and well the coach , plus its the mecca
i dont see knicks wantin to drop a bag for lonzo , unless zac resigns here
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Since Randles cap hold is going to be so low (less than max) the Knicks will have the money to comfortably sign Lonzo to let's say a deal at $22 million a year then ALSO max Zach at $34million and still resign Randle for a max deal as well ... They have damn near 0 contracts on their books next summer ...they will be a threat to our internal and external targets
The Knicks are more delusional than thecoli is about Lonzo if he gets 22 million from them
This nikka started producing at league average and suddenly he became the second coming of a young Gary Payton
It will be interesting to see if they bring Zach back at all
Does anyone know the future protections on these picks if they dont convey? I cant find it anywhere
Since Randles cap hold is going to be so low (less than max) the Knicks will have the money to comfortably sign Lonzo to let's say a deal at $22 million a year then ALSO max Zach at $34million and still resign Randle for a max deal as well ... They have damn near 0 contracts on their books next summer ...they will be a threat to our internal and external targets
our max offer to Zach will always trump any max he can get on the open market
assuming we want to keep him, and next season isnt a complete disaster, I really dont see him turning down the extra $$ we can offer
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zach lavine isn’t a free agent til July 1st 2022 it’s top 4 protected in ‘21 & ‘23 if the bulls keep the pick its unprotected in ‘22
I agree, but NYK is a legit threat to sign him nonetheless.
it’s top 4 protected in ‘21 & ‘23 if the bulls keep the pick its unprotected in ‘22
Im talking about bringing Zach back to play this season because how it could affect our lottery %
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probably he’s listed as doubtful tonight , once he clears protocol he’ll probably play