The suburbs are dead--and that's not a good thing

[NZA]

not really just my instinct, gentrification is neither here nor there, bottom line its a free country and people should be allowed to live where ever they want to live and its time to get rid of government housing and government rules telling people where they should live, the free market should decide where people live

so in other words, you cant really address my issue, breh?

ive been skeptical about this since i heard of california cops giving homeless people one way bus tickets to phoenix, and now hawaii is considering sending their homeless to the mainland. sometimes people face problems and just say fukk it and send their problems down the road and act like they did something.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

It's really blatant in DC and in Baltimore shyt is crazy brehs

 

[theworldismine13]

so in other words, you cant really address my issue, breh?

ive been skeptical about this since i heard of california cops giving homeless people one way bus tickets to phoenix, and now hawaii is considering sending their homeless to the mainland. sometimes people face problems and just say fukk it and send their problems down the road and act like they did something.

there isnt any issue to address, is crime in phoenix going up? is crime in the mainland going up? no it isnt so what is the issue? why is crime going down an issue that needs to be addressed? why is it wrong to give a one way ticket to phoenix and to the mainland, we should spread homeless and criminals around, its easier to deal with it that way

 

[Blackking]

only poor people live in suburbs

 

[NZA]

there isnt any issue to address, is crime in phoenix going up? is crime in the mainland going up? no it isnt so what is the issue? why is crime going down an issue that needs to be addressed? why is it wrong to give a one way ticket to phoenix and to the mainland, we should spread homeless and criminals around, its easier to deal with it that way

im not accusing the homeless of causing crime, so the crime rate here is irrelevant to that. the point is that i suspect people kick their problems down the street and act like they accomplished something. and you reply to my posts with your "instincts" instead of something more substantial.

ive still never seen anything of substance on this, just instincts and dogma...

 

[theworldismine13]

im not accusing the homeless of causing crime, so the crime rate here is irrelevant to that. the point is that i suspect people kick their problems down the street and act like they accomplished something. and you reply to my posts with your "instincts" instead of something more substantial.

ive still never seen anything of substance on this, just instincts and dogma...

i dont agree that "kicking problems down the street" is a bad thing and i dont agree that spreading poverty around is a bad thing either so i dont agree that there is an issue in the first place, i think what you are seeing right now is just the free market at work which in the end will be good for everybody

 

[the next guy]

not really just my instinct, gentrification is neither here nor there, bottom line its a free country and people should be allowed to live where ever they want to live and its time to get rid of government housing and government rules telling people where they should live, the free market should decide where people live

We don't need to spread the crime around and bring the COL down for everyone. Ask the white folks in Indy, Iowa, Downstate Illinois and other place what happens when you shut down the chicago projects.

 

[theworldismine13]

We don't need to spread the crime around and bring the COL down for everyone. Ask the white folks in Indy, Iowa, Downstate Illinois and other place what happens when you shut down the chicago projects.

i dont need to ask anybody anything, overall crime has gone down, so its obviously a good thing, and i thank god they got rid of those god forsaken and anti free market hells called projects, they need to finish the job and get rid of all the remaining projects and let the free market reign

 

[the next guy]

i dont need to ask anybody anything, overall crime has gone down, so its obviously a good thing, and i thank god they got rid of those god forsaken and anti free market hells called projects, they need to finish the job and get of all the remaining projects and let the free market reign

That's right, because once again you speak on conjecture and no facts. Crime going down by your reasoning., if you can't connect it with numbers, papers or anything, I have to end this and call you a straight liar.


But even I can tell you why crime has gone down, and not just in black communities: Police work.

 

[the next guy]

TWISM you would fail a high school test with your posts in this thread. Not to mention all the blatant spelling errors you make. If someone asks you to prove a theory, you prove it. If you can't... you can't. Sad thing is crime is going down, but you're not even close as to the correct reasoning. And no its not gun laws either

 

[theworldismine13]

That's right, because once again you speak on conjecture and no facts. Crime going down by your reasoning., if you can't connect it with numbers, papers anything, I have to end this and call you a straight liar.


But even I can tell you why crime has gone down, and not just in black communities: Police work.

sure and i said that before, it is conjecture, nobody really knows why crime is going down, so everybody is speaking in conjectures, including yourself

but this so called suburban crime wave caused by eliminating projects is a blip in the overall statistics, that is a fact

and projects being anti free market hell holes is also a fact

 

[the next guy]

sure and i said that before, it is conjecture, nobody really knows why crime is going down, so everybody is speaking in conjectures, including yourself

but this so called suburban crime wave cause by eliminating projects is a blip in the overall statistics, that is a fact

and projects being anti free market hell holes is also a fact

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/justice/us-violent-crime

However, criminologists point to a variety of factors for the continuing decline in overall violence. They cite a more settled crack cocaine market, an increase in incarcerations, an aging population, data-driven policing, and changes in technology that include a big increase in surveillance cameras.

James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University, said crime has continued to decline from a peak in the 1990s but now is decreasing at a slower rate.

"I call it the limbo stick effect," Fox said. " You can only go so low. You're never going to get down to zero crime."


Is this conjecture? This man is a professor of criminology. People are not doing crack anymore and more people are being caught.

 

[theworldismine13]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/29/justice/us-violent-crime

However, criminologists point to a variety of factors for the continuing decline in overall violence. They cite a more settled crack cocaine market, an increase in incarcerations, an aging population, data-driven policing, and changes in technology that include a big increase in surveillance cameras.

James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University, said crime has continued to decline from a peak in the 1990s but now is decreasing at a slower rate.

"I call it the limbo stick effect," Fox said. " You can only go so low. You're never going to get down to zero crime."


Is this conjecture? This man is a professor of criminology. People are not doing crack anymore and more people are being caught.

yeah it is conjecture, do you not know how to read? the article clearly states

However, criminologists point to a variety of factors for the continuing decline in overall violence.

there isnt any particular factor that people can point to to explain the decrease in crime, you said it was police work and then you post an article stating a bunch of factors, you dont even make sense

there is no hard data connecting decline in crime to police work or anything else, its all conjecture

 

[theworldismine13]

TWISM you would fail a high school test with your posts in this thread. Not to mention all the blatant spelling errors you make. If someone asks you to prove a theory, you prove it. If you can't... you can't. Sad thing is crime is going down, but you're not even close as to the correct reasoning. And no its not gun laws either

the bottom line is what exactly is wrong with eliminating projects and spreading crime around?

and since when did hip hop become a defender of suburbia? i dont give two fuks if crime spreads to suburbia, the important thing is that overall crime goes down and that you have a free market where people can live wherever they want to live

and even in the article you posted stated that most of the crime is coming from a few urban pockets, meaning if we got rid of those urban pockets crime would go down even more, but that is just a conjecture of course

 

[theworldismine13]

Just in time for those that wanted hard data and refused to acknowledge the superior intellect of the God Emperor

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/nati...people-neighborhood-doesnt-cause-crime/67966/