The specter that still haunts capitalism

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

That's my philosophy brehs

Good luck supporting yourself.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If that's your response after reading this article, it's clear your opposition to socialism isn't based on any sort of logic. If economic democracy would be against your material interests, you can say it and just be honest

How does it feel to be ideological kin to monarchists and aristocrats? Sub in "democratic" for "communist" in your post and you have a monarchist's argument against democracy in the 1700s ("Ancient Greece fell and Rome turned into an empire... Democracy doesn't work. It was tried and it failed. No democracy has ever been successful.")

Monarchists derived their "value" from physical power and saying "god let them reign"

So no, shut the hell up with this sloppy bullshyt.

If you wanna use metaphors, use them properly.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I've been saying this for a while. Every Congressman and Senator should be coming back to their districts every few months showing what they've accomplished/voted on during that time and the people vote whether it's acceptable or not. Three strikes and you're out.

This is what already happens...and this has NOTHING to do with socialism. Nothing.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Don't compare other countries with different circumstances to 2015 America.

Why? Socialist evangelists do it all the time.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Biggest victories of capitalism :

1. Convincing the poor and the middle-class that it works in their favor
2. Convincing everybody that capitalist countries do not use socialist policies
3. Convincing everybody that there is "no other way"

1. convincing the poor/middle class to invent things and participate in the largest expansion of capital in human history.
2. no reasonable person even debates this. We live in a mixed economy. Its the hardcore dumbasses fighting revolutions in latin american and south asia calling for extremist total communism. No bueno.
3. There isn't a BETTER way. Thats the answer.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Capitalism = slavery

What size are your chains?

And why do you have them?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I don't understand what is appealing about socialism. Or why brehs are attracted to it. Black Wall Street was great until it was destroyed

Its why the Marshall Plan had to be done.

Poor and uneducated people see it as a way out to account for their own failures and misfortunes instead of providing incentives to promote and stimulate growth and self-sustenance.

A lot of post WW2 countries flirted with communism because they thought they wanted to "help everyone" when in reality, they needed to stop resenting the next man and learn to use their resources to create better opportunities.

A lot of post WW2 countries also kinda liked monarchies so theyre drawn to the whole "central leadership" aspect.

Charting your own future is difficult for most to undestand

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

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What was the black poverty rate at black wall street's peak?

What a silly argument. It was the 1920s regardless. Black people were going to have a shytty hand for a while.

Socialism is appealing because it's the most high minded, egalitarian society imaginable.

Its not high-minded. Its what children come up with when they want to pretend tehy're all equal and deserve everything equally. It doesn't promote innovation and doesnt incentive growth.

I want that only for basics that government should provide...like roads, healthcare, etc. Simple shyt.

Equality generally appeals to all exploited peoples, as this article notes. Black Americans are among history's most exploited cohorts; which is why socialism has played a crucial role in virtually all black struggles and why most black leaders of note were either sympathetic to or were socialists themselves.

Again, socialism is low hanging fruit because instead of incentivizing more concrete gains made via capitalism, it seeks to put everyone on equal footing without respecting the role of social stratification that has more of a role to play in societal exploitation than outright economic exploitation.

There are many black people who are doing well by understanding how to make the system work...with even more coming to fruition. Whites have had a start, but changing the system by lying that all white people are just millionaires themselves is an obfuscations.

You understand that capitalism literally requires poor people correct?

Poor is a relative term. And i'm ok with this.

You understand that free markets are impossible?

They're unfair, but we live in a mixed economy.

Crony capitalism is capitalism in its functional form.

Which is why Dupont can't dump chemicals in the middle of your local river anymore

 

[Tate]

How are you defining poor here?

if you are claiming capitalism requires poverty....

Is profit not rooted in exploitation? How does Wal-Mart sell cheap goods?

Capitalism improves upon feudalism in that it uplifts more out of destitution. However they are too few, and those outside too many. Thus capitalism destroys itself and such

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Ahistorical analysis. Without regulations the entire western world would have succumbed to soviet style Bolshevism or another leftism during the 10s, 20s, and 30s. There's never been a man who did as much for capitalism as FDR.

We're not debating regulations. Regulations are good. Not all regulations are good. Learn the difference.

Kindly point out one example of a functioning unencumbered free market or explain why there hasn't been such an example

The internet.

Karl Marx's numerous contributions to multiple fields of study are universally recognized.

So? That doesn't make them good arguments. He merely compiled his observations in a way that appealed to people who overcorrected for shytty economic fortunes. Most of that corner of the world was GOING to always be in the dumps.

He's inarguably one of the most brilliant men of the past 500 years

Why, because you agree with him?

The right wing echo chamber you reside in is one of the few circles of learning in the world that disregards his writings in their entirety.

I don't respect men. I respect their work.

Marx was an influential man. Marx was not an innovative man.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Is profit not rooted in exploitation?

No. Its not. Its what happens when you're successful. There are no guaranteed winners.

How does Wal-Mart sell cheap goods?

By having enough people who want to sell their shyt there who can't survive on their own, thus coercing them into submitting to Walmart's strict warehousing and product schedules. And meeting stock market demands.

Capitalism improves upon feudalism in that it uplifts more out of destitution.

Which is a lot more than you can say about socialism. You can't save everyone and I need you to say this.

However they are too few, and those outside too many. Thus capitalism destroys itself and such

You want a perfect system, and you won't ever get it.

 

[Tha Sircus]

Would you like to explain what's so funny about what I said?

 

[bdkane]

well go ahead then.

You first.

 

[Tha Sircus]

What was the black poverty rate at black wall street's peak? Are you talking about in ok or across the country?





You understand that capitalism literally requires poor people correct?

So what? I don't understand the problem. There is always going to be people who are less fortunate in any system. In nature not every male gets to mate. You just have to do the best you can to make sure it's not you.


You understand that free markets are impossible?

This is simply not true. But I want you to elaborate further on this comment.

Crony capitalism is capitalism in its functional form.

Now why you wanna try to put that propaganda out here like that?

Laissez faire Capitalism is the MOST functional system to ever exist

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

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